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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claimed Messianic prophecies of Jesus
please vote Articles for deletion/Claimed Messianic prophecies of Jesus --Java7837 20:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Purim Songs
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19 Jun 07

Non-free use disputed for Image:1918_Private_BenGurion_volunteer_in_Jewish_Legion.jpg
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Image:19450420_Hitler_65bd_awards_HJ_Iron_Cross.jpg
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Secondary antisemitism
Regarding your notes on my proposal at Talk:Antisemitism. I've followed your suggestion and prepared a stub at User:AldeBaer/Secondary antisemitism (workbench). I'd like to invite you to occasionally drop by and give me more notes. I appreciate any advice you might have. Also, please don't hesitate to edit that page or just tell me how I should tweak it before creating the article. Best regards, —AldeBaer (c) 01:40, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I couldn't wait and moved it to Secondary antisemitism. —AldeBaer (c) 12:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for help
Humus, we are having a dispute at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_McCarthy#Cause_of_death.

There is one argument insisting on adding speculation to the official corner's cause of death. The other argument is that there are two references in the article regarding McCarthy's death. One is in the intro (the one that one side thinks should state pure fact) and the other is in the "Final years" section where there is speculation from anti-McCarthy biographers that he died because of alcohol consumption. The question is whether adding a non-concensus POV comment in the intro should remain or should the coroner's official cause of death stand alone without some POV comment.

Can you please step in and help on this? I know you're busy but your input would be of great value.

Thanks again for your time. Jtpaladin 17:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Yehuda_Bauer.jpg
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Inquisitor
Did you see the rationale in Image:Yehuda Bauer.jpg? What part of it is under dispute? You seem to take pride in your overzealousness, but it may harm the project. Please try to be reasonable in the future. ←Humus sapiens ну? 23:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Humus sapiens. What's under dispute, as explained in the image tag, is the replaceability of this image. I.e., this image is used to illustrate a topic for which a free alternative image could be found or created. We should use a free image of Mr. Yehuda Bauer to illustrate him. But if no such image is promptly available, we should use no image for now (this, per se, is an incentive to the production of a free alernative). This is as "reasonable" as our policy goes.


 * Just let me know if you still have any doubts. Best regards, --Abu badali (talk) 23:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * And please, do not remove the replaceable fair use tag. If you, by any reason, disagrees with it, you can dispute the tagging by following the instructions on the tag itself. I've reverted your second removal. All the best, --Abu badali (talk) 23:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

"Continue to spread hatred"
"Do not expect to be able to use WP to continue to spread hatred.". I am not native speaker, so maybe I miseunderstood what you were trying to say. Humus, there is no point to pollute Bielski Partisans page to discuss whether I spread hatred in wikipedia or not. If you can point me specific example where I was "spreading hatred" against Jews, please point me the specific passage. I would be also happy to see your explanation why saying Bielski's engaged in robbery and killing civilians "typical antisemitic canard". I think it would be necessary then to alarm public opinion that Polish official institution of historians (which was recently a bit abused by our newest regime, but was quite a resepectable institution before) spreads hatred and engages in typical antisemitic canards.

Otherwise, I expect you will apologise for your unfounded and hurting remarks. Actually, "I expect" is just a figure of speech in this case. In fact I fully expect you will continue to pretend that saying "someone is called a bandit" means the same as "Jews are bandits" and is typical antisemitic canard, equivalent to blood libels. In such case just stop answering, unless you want to add something to the article. Wikipedia is not discussion board. Szopen 11:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Baron von Mildenstein
This gentleman is currently discussed on WP:RD/H under "Baron von Mildenstein". I tried to find his biography in order to add information supplied by Clio, but I can't trace it. Perhaps you would like to add this to your to-do list. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:2001_ed_The_International_Jew_by_Henry_Ford.jpg
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Image:Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion_2005_Syria_al-Awael.jpg listed for deletion
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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Dying to Kill by Mia Bloom cover.jpg)
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Orphaned non-free image Image:(Dying to Kill by Mia Bloom cover.jpg)
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 * In addition: please don't just restore this image to "Child suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict" and remove the tag. As WP:NONFREE clearly states, nonfree cover art is acceptable "only in the context of critical commentary of that item", and "An image of a rose, cropped from an image of a record album jacket, used to illustrate an article on roses" "would almost certainly not be fair use under the policy". Eleland 12:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Dying to Kill by Mia Bloom cover.jpg)
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Masada
Hey Humus, I am trying to forge a compromise here and since you are an involved party I would like you to participate. If you could made a statement with regards to your opinion on the matter it would be much appreciated. Cheers --Cronholm144 04:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning
Your comments at Talk:Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict have been persistently rude and abusive. You've made serious accusations ("denial", "pro-Hamas soapboxing") without the slightest justification. You have repeatedly restored an image which violates WP:NONFREE, with no justification except questioning my motives for deleting it. You have used a misleading edit summary in the course of an edit war.

These actions violate WP:AGF, WP:CIV, and WP:NPA. I urge you to change your behavior rapidly.

Eleland 21:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * In regards to this particular edit summary: you in fact removed the findings of qualified academic observers which found no incitement, removed one allegation from MEMRI, and added other information from PMW.
 * The report of the IPCRI was still mentioned, but its conclusions were removed -- giving the impression that this report bolstered the claim, when it actually demolished it. Same for the Harry S Truman study.Eleland 22:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

deletion on "uninterrupted presence".
i have deleted text as the logic of proof is faulty - the statement tries to proof a permanent presence by absense of evidence to the contrary. such absence of evidence is not a proo--

are you saying this sentence has no information in it? if so it should not be there. if it conveys a message please state what it is. will take it from thereAl123sc 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/NYScholar
The above named arbitration case has closed. All involved parties are granted an amnesty over the edit-warring that had been ongoing but has given the administrators the ability to sanction anyone who begins disruptive editing again.

You may view the full case decision at the case page.

For the Arbitration Committee,

- Penwhale &#124; Blast him / Follow his steps 11:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Image use and edit warring
You seem bent on adding Image:Dying to Kill by Mia Bloom cover.jpg to Child suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict despite all attempts at discussion and explanation, so this will be your last warning: That image is licensed only as fair use in an article about the book. It may not be used in any other article, no matter how relevant the subject matter may be. It can't even be used in the article about the author. I have removed it for the last time, and if you re-insert it into any of those articles for any reason you will be blocked for persistent violation of our image use policy. If you would like to write an article about the book you are free to do so and you may then use the image there. Otherwise it will soon be deleted as an orphaned fair use image. Kafziel Talk 23:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Golda_working_in_kibbutz_Merhavia1.jpg
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Child suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Please take a step back and cool down. The edit warring and name calling is conduct unbecoming an administrator. You should know better than to accuse other users of trying to "turn a WP article into a Hamas poster". Comments like that aren't productive. It's obvious that you are taking this article very personally, and your judgment is suffering as a result. I'm coming from a neutral position based on our policies of image use and civility, and right now you're the only one violating the rules of engagement; since I blocked him last week, Eleland has done nothing but remain civil and try to discuss the situation. You've resorted to name calling and reverting out of hand.

Don't let this situation get the better of you. Kafziel Talk 12:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Odessa massacre
Hi! There is nothing too wrong in titling Odessa massacre, but the very name of event historically is reffered to the masssacre that occured in Odessa in 1905. So, it could be more correct to call the extermination of Jews traditionaly a Holocaust to avoid any misunderstanding of the title. Truly, Paganel 18:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome! Well, can Odessa massacre be passed to Odessa Holocaust. Are the exposed reasons enough? Sincerelly Yours, Paganel 20:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Wright You are. But it can be called Holocaust in Odessa, like Holocaust in Poland, Holocaust in Romania, Holocaust in Estonia. But the word Holocaust must be present, firstly, to avoid double meaning (The Odessa Massacre of 1905). And it really was a Holocaust and not an abstract massacre! So, the "Odessa massacre (Holocaust)", proposed by You, or "Odessa Holocaust Massacre" or, as it was, "Odessa Holocaust" or "Holocaust in Odessa" would be a nice title for the redirection, because this word must be present. What is your opinion? Very often I pass along the mass graves of it, and I know that a massacre is something caotic, but in Odessa it was not like this, it was a very well organized process of extermination. Truly, Paganel 22:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The rest of this talk is at Talk:Odessa massacre. ←Humus sapiens ну? 22:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Paganel 14:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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Israeli Palestinian conflict
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Hamas
I think that my edit, see the difference here is more appropriate for the lead, as it states the "hard fact" that Hamas is responsible for suicide attacks. The "best known" thing is less of a "hard fact". Quite apart form the dispute on the talk page about the accuracy of that statement, it is a fact about people's perceptions about Hamas. But that perception is consequence of Hamas' actions. These actions are thus more important things to mention in the lead, the perception is a derivative of this (and is still mentioned later in the article, all the citations that were given are still cited there in my version). Count Iblis 01:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)