User talk:HunterZone/Archive 1

Cyclone Formation Info
The time you mentioned in my talk page was inactive. No cyclones formed in that time. even the IMD website was going on changes at the time.

P.S. => IMD Website and JTWC US Navy for Cyclone Alerts

Tatiraju.rishabh (talk) 14:09, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * There were many possible low pressure areas that could have become a cyclone. I dont think they might be taking them into account.

Currently there is a LOPAR(Low Pressure Area) over Bay of Bengal

Tatiraju.rishabh (talk) 17:11, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello...
Hello,

I merged your article on Tropical Cyclone 02A (1999) to the main article because it is a copy of the information in the seasonal article. In the future, please get more information and organize it like in Cyclone Gonu. If you have any questions please feel free to leave me a message!

--  Yue ' of the ' North   18:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Jason Rees (talk) 18:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Climate of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
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Do not REVERT !
I am seeing that you are reverting the edits which is according to "Pakistan Meteorological Department" and it the most authentic and reliable source. If you think that your data is accurate and authentic then please provide any reliable source.And don't mess up the article with inappropriate data. Please discuss before making any changes to the article.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 11:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

The Monthly rainfall statement for the months of August, 2009 and August 2007 is available on Pakmet.com.pk, they cannot change the data, it might be the case that more than 160 mm of rain has been occurred in two or more days, as recently in July, 2010, Peshawar received 274 mm of rain in 24 hours it was written in monthly statement for the month of July, 2010.But the next day in a Daily press release it says 312 mm of rain was recorded in last 24-hours in Peshawar, so don't be confused here.Its the mistake of PMD but here in Wikipedia we need some source for inline citations, that's why i am reverting your edits, and do not revert them until you find some sources which says your point of view !

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 11:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Provide any reference to support you rainfall data. PMD only provides the data of Karachi Airport and Masroor, in your case it is landhi and etc.In the history of Karachi such amount of rain has not yet occurred.700 rain in just monnsoon season, its insane i suppose. See the example of Islamabad which is considered as one of the wettest place in pakistan, in june 41 mm rain occurred, in july 329 mm, in August 218 mm, and the combine total of 588 mm which is still less than 700 mm.And it is known that Islamabad is far more wet than Karachi, in this case your data is false.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

You always says "According to you" according to what ??? did you measure rainfall by yourself ??? or do you have any internationally standard instrument to measure rainfall, please provide me any source on behalf of your claims, as you said according to your research Islamabad receives more than 1000 mm of rain who said ??? give any references in this context ! Surely you don't have it, you only listen to news channel we can't put here on this article that on Geo news and etc says such rain has occurred in karachi city its not the right way to do, you have to explore the net to find some reliable sources other than PMD, which according to you is blank ! you don't need to change the rainfall data until you find some references.Once you find some references you can change the rainfall data as you like, before that i would say that it looks awful to revert again and again. On Wikipedia there is always a need of inline citations which means references and to put them by the end of some important sentances, without that the article looks fake, hope you understand, and got my point.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I am glad that you have added the references, as i said to you.But there are some issues which i am going to tell you, the references you cited are "FORUMS" which are not considered as reliable sources, at the end of each thread the reference of "The News" is given, as, but it is dead now and this is called "Dead Link", if we keep them then in near future we will face problems if we apply for Good article status, or Featured Article as well. So there is need of any other references, i will try also to find some other references, and you too have to find some other references.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

You are calculating the rainfall data of Masroor, while i am doing so of Karachi Airport.Let us to decide whether the data of which location be added.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

OK let it be Masroor, because its within the center of the city, while airport is far away, but it is still 265 mm, please calculate again, you are wrong, i have calculated the rainfall of Masroor, its 265 mm.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

349 mm in 2009, how ? i have calculated its 265, whether its for Karachi airport or masroor. and 403 mm in 2010, till 11 September, 2010, whether for masroor, or airport.Please calculate again.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

OK...
 * Its 344 mm in 2009.
 * And its 458 mm in 2010, till 11 September.

I am going to add this...

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

In 2010 the monthly breakdown is as follows:


 * June: 152 mm in Masroor (Highest)
 * July: 137 mm in Masroor (Highets)
 * August: 129 mm in Airport (Highest)
 * September: 105 mm in Airport (Highest) Till 12 September, 2010 ( 42 mm in Airport till 12 September, 2010 -15 mm on 11 September, instead of this adding 78 mm of landhi rainfall)

And the total is, 523 mm, i am adding this information.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 09:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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September 2010
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Climate of Karachi. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Trafford09 (talk) 14:59, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Monsoon Rainfall of Islamabad.
The data of monsoon rainfall of 2010, which i have calculated is as follows:

Pakmet gives the rainfall for four locations in Islamabad, Saidpur, Shamsabab, Dhamial, and Zero point. While another location is Airport, which is Rawalpindi so leave this location, as the data of Rawalpindi is not available elsewhere in the Monthly Rainfall Statement. Mostly i have calculated the rainfall for Saidpur location, because it receives more rain than any other location, and the heaviest rain is always calculated. While in some cases like in July, 2008 i have calculated the rain of zero point, it received more rain than Saidpur. So in 2010 i have applied the same calculations as i have explained above. Calculate yourself as i said for your satisfaction. Monsoon rains are still active in Punjab, Khyber Pastoonkhua, Gilgit Baltistan, and Kashmir.While it has almost withdrawn from Sindh Province. Another wet spell is expected to approach Punjab, Khyber pashtoonkhua, Kasmir and Gilgit Baltistan.See this, Pakistan's Cities Forecast for Four days Regards

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summary.
I also used to forget to give summaries it is easy to forget. So, User:Trafford09 told me to select "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" on the Editing tab of my user preferences.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Monsoon Rains.
You are right, but monsoon is still active and it is penetrating in upper parts of Pakistan intermittently. So for now we can't say that monsoon is over now, past records reveals that in the last weeks of September some strong monsoon currents had caused heavy rains in upper parts of Pakistan, for details, see the monthly statements for the month of September, in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 (Its the driest year). Now a days the monsoon currents have been disconnected from Pakistan for the past few days. Lets see if there is any major approach of monsoon currents to Pakistan in the coming weeks of September.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

It depends sometimes the monsoon currents affects the areas of Pakistan till the end of September. For now we can wait until the Monsoon report of 2010 is released by Pakistan Meteorological Department.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Monsoon rainfall of Karachi
How have you calculated the "Actual rain of karachi in 2010" ??? The references you have provided gives the daily rainfalls, but doesn't give the total rainfall. If you have calculated by yourself than please explain ! Karachi received its highest annual rainfall of 713 mm in 1967. And 737.9 mm of rain doesn't looks authentic to me because if such amount of rain has fallen in the city than PMD and other news channels have an detail report on this.The rainfall data of PMD is most authentic and all the news channels and news papers takes the rainfall data of Pakmet.Because they don't possess any Meteorological department.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Its 699.3 mm according to my calculations. I am adding this to the article. Calculate again for your satisfaction, may be you have calculated rain twice of the single day.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 07:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The link which you have given doen't give any rainfall data,, i have calculated the rainfall in the following way:


 * The rainfall of June is 152 mm (Masroor) a/c to PMD.
 * On 6 July 6.8 mm was recorded a maximum.
 * On 7 July, Faisal airbase recorded 6 mm.
 * on 8 July, 45 mm was recorded maximum.
 * On 24 July, North Karachi received max of 53 mm.
 * On 27 July, Airport received 14 mm.
 * On 28 July, Masroor received 94 mm.
 * On 29 July, Gulshan-i-Hadeed received 25 mm.
 * On 8th August, Faisal base received 66 mm.
 * On 9 August, 70 mm.
 * On 10 August, University Road received 44 mm.
 * On 16 August, Airport received 1.5 mm.
 * On 17 August, Faisal base received 3 mm.
 * On 2 September, Masroor received 5 mm.
 * On 10 September, North Karachi received 36.6 mm. "You said on 9th sep instead of 36.6 its 44(according to aaj tv as told by pmd)" so add Give the reference of Aaj TV which said so.
 * On 11 September, Landhi received 78 mm.

On Eid, 11 September, 2010 maximum 78 mm of rain was recorded in Landhi so ignore 36 mm ! No need to add 36 mm again as on the same day 78 mm of rain was recorded in landhi. We can not add the rainfall of 44 mm instead of 36.6 mm a/c to Aaj news until any reference is found which said so.
 * Total: 699.9 mm of Rain. Even if i add 44 instead of 36.6 mm as you said than its total is 707.3 mm.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 10:21, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

You said:

"Post monsoon; 1st sep 5mm masoor, 9th sep 36.6mm N.Karachi, 10th sep 78mm Landhi, 11th sep 36 University road(as it was a holiday on eid thus no newspaper came and news website did'nt highlight it. But Pmd in its 5pm bulletin said that 36mm rain occurred in university road with strong winds)."

Let me explain 36.6 mm of rain was recorded in North Karachi on 10 September, a/c to your reference.Its not 9 September while its 11 September not 10 September when 78 mm of rain was recorded in landhi.you are confuse here.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 11:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

And on 1st September Karachi didn't received any rain a/c to PMD so here again you are repeating 5 mm of rain on 1st September. It looks that you are repeating the rainfall data again and again.
 * On 2 September, Masroor received 5 mm.
 * On 10 September, North Karachi received 36.6 mm. "You said on 9th sep instead of 36.6 its 44(according to aaj tv as told by pmd)"
 * On 11 September landhi received 78 mm of rain.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok what about EID day ??? you said 36.6 mm on 12 September a/c to Monthly rainfall statement of September (PAKMET), 2 mm of rain was recorded in Masroor (Max).If you have any reference then please provide.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Final Calculations:


 * The rainfall of June is 152 mm (Masroor) a/c to PMD.
 * On 6 July 6.8 mm was recorded a maximum.
 * On 7 July, Faisal airbase recorded 6 mm.
 * on 8 July, 45 mm was recorded maximum.
 * On 24 July, North Karachi received max of 53 mm.
 * On 27 July, Airport received 14 mm.
 * On 28 July, Masroor received 94 mm.
 * On 29 July, Gulshan-i-Hadeed received 25 mm.
 * On 8th August, Faisal base received 66 mm.
 * On 9 August, 70 mm.
 * On 10 August, University Road received 44 mm.
 * On 16 August, Airport received 1.5 mm.
 * On 17 August, Faisal base received 3 mm.

Till The end of August its 580.3 mm...Lets move towards the month of September.


 * On 1 September, 5 mm
 * On 2 September, Masroor received 5 mm.
 * On 9 September, 36.6 mm.
 * On 10 September, 78 mm in landhi.
 * On 11 September, 36 mm
 * On 12 September, 36 mm (Provide the reference)

The rainfall of September is 160.6 mm excluding 12 September rain in total. 580.3 + 160.6 = 740.9 mm

Now are u satisfied ???

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 12:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

That's good you have provided the references as required, this is better to put some information with references than to put them without any reference as you did earlier. You asked for the PMD link of cyclone of 1965 which killed 10,000 people. It is not available on PMD, they have whole records of weather since 1930's but they didn't provide it on their site, if you explore the site than you will came to know that they have prescribed the specified rupee amount for the detail records of weather of cities of Pakistan, which is around 4,000 to 5,000 rupees per pamphlet. so who will buy such expensive documents for the sake of putting them on Wikipedia. Don't you think that its illogical that PMD has been established since a lot years, and still they only have the climatic data of major cities since 1935 but they don't have the climatic data of the other cities and past records of cloud burst and cyclones ??? Definitely they have it but they have made it business, pay the amount and get your weather record !!! The PMD is still the most reliable source but this is another thing that they do not keep the rainfall data for the days. As you said that they have removed the rainfall data of karachi. Let me tell you i have visited this site in 2003 for the first time, and i have saved all the data on the site since that time. Earlier they don't used to have the "Monthly statements of rainfall" but instead they just show the statements for the current month and when the next month steps in they remove the old one. It is for the first time in 2010 that they have maintained all the statements since 2008. But still i would say that they need to improve their site in order to keep the people aware about the weather records. Have a look at the Indian meteorological department they have the rainfall data of all the cities since 1900 and much more. Regards...

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:33, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Monsoon Rains Still Active !
As i told you earlier that monsoon currents are intermittently approaching the north eastern part of Punjab, Kashmir and Gilgit baltistan. See this:. But you didn't believe. During some years monsoon tends to withdraw from mid- September but there has been the years when monsoon currents continuously causes rains till the end of September.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 12:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

For now you should believe on PMD other than IMD. Monsoon currents are "MONSOON CURRENTS" whether they hit Kashmir, gilgit baltistan or north Punjab. You can not say any thing about the withdrawal of monsoon rains from Pakistan until and unless PMD releases report of the 2010 monsoon.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Cold wave of Quetta
Well i am currently collecting the references, as you can see some of the references has been there along with the temperatures. Soon i will put each reference along with the temperature.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I am in currently exploring the net, but you were in no progress. When i told you to put some references than you did do. The data of extreme cold wave of Quetta is based on my personal data which i have saved from PMD from time to time. If i found some references related to these one than i will put them otherwise i will remove them as the references are essential and needs to be cited.Here i am reminding you that it is not the case that i only tends to tell you to put references and when it came to my side i will go on putting unreferenced data, there is nothing like that, soon you will see the changes as i told you earlier. Regards.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Most of the data from 2004 to 2010 i have putted there the reference of pakmet.com.pk. And at some places you were wrong in the monthly rainfall data of karachi which i have corrected by providing the exact links of PMD. Before that you have put monthly extremes of your own, means monthly records of karachi. And it is only in 2010 which you have proved the correct data. But it would have been appreciable if you have proved your rainfall data before i told you to do so !!!

The case of Quetta is different, they measure temperature from Quetta Airport, which is located at the altitude of 1550 meters and do not receive as much rain, snow and do not experiences cold temperature as in the main city which is located at the altitude of 1750 meters, there is very big difference in the altitudes of both the places. But PMD measures temperature from Airport as there met department is also located there, and Quetta has only one met station you can see in the monthly rainfall statements on PMD. So there always remains a big difference in the temperatures of both cities...

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:02, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Editing on Climate of Karachi.
It seems that you are not getting my point, look the cyclone yemyin didn't lasted for a whole month as you have written there, it started on 21 June, and dissipated on 26 June so Karachi received rains for 2 or 3 days only see the article of Cyclone yemyin for more details, and you have reverted my edit without any explanation. Do not revert it back, the ref you provided doesn't said any thing about 70 km/h winds from where does it came ??? Another thing, i changed the ref of climatic data of Karachi, as you saw, but you reverted it back, the link i have given there is more precise and detailed one and gives information about the mean, heaviest, lowest, and in fact every detail of climatic records of Karachi.Do not revert it because your link of same records of Karachi is limited in this sense. Tell me would you like to see the detailed climatic records of Karachi or the limited one ??? And you said all rains caused due to cyclone yemyin, please give reference, the ref you putted there is not precise it shows monthly extreme of June in Karachi not the single record of the rain of yemyin. See in the detailed climatic record of Karachi the heaviest rain of Karachi in June is 40.6 mm which was recorded on 26 June, 2007 during the cyclonic activity. See here, And you reverted all the copy edits of mine without giving any details, which looks better, 33.3 mm OR 33.3 mm ??? Obviously its the latter one which gives the inches as well.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes i know that you live in Karachi and you know better than me, but you are not in PMD, so that you can provide me the references of day to day weather conditions. Yes PMD said 152 mm in June. It said the monthly rain, not the Cyclone Yemyin caused 152 mm for the whole month. You said, "yemyin brought 69mph winds with it on 23 June" give reference !!! There should be the references of rain which occurred during the cyclone, just like the daily rains as listed in Dawn news. You have to find out those ones, to make the article more realistic Ok.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Climate of Cities
I am not planning to make any one as of now. Tell me which articles related to climate you are making ?

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Climate of Lahore is already created, and i have updated it as well, if you want to add the monthly breakdown of rainfall so add.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

You don't need to recreate it, just expand as i said. And add more information about the climate of Lahore.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Calculations of Rainfall Data
Please give the detail of your calculations for the rainfall of Islamabad, and Lahore, all the calculations which i have made are a/c to PMD, monthly rainfall statements, do not revert any edit until the discussion on this issue is over.We always tends to to update the date as of "now", means the current date. In case of Quetta it doesn't received any rain since 6th August. But we cannot marked it "as of 6 August", when someone read the article he will think that the article is outdated, and needs its rainfall data needs to be updated, so we always change the date with the days to come. I will suggest you that we don't need to add the date with the rainfall, when rain fell in any city we will update its rainfall data and that's it, because by giving any date the reader of the article will be confused.....

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

In September, i have picked up the highest rain of the day from different locations of Lahore it is explained as


 * On 3 September, 37 mm in LAHORE A/P,
 * On 6 September28 mm in LHR. SHAHI QILLA,
 * On 8 September, 62 mm in LHR. SHAHDARA
 * On 10 September, 44 mm in LHR. SHAHI QILLA

and so on, just like your calculations of rain data for Karachi, as you have picked up the highest rain for different locations of the city from day to day as on Dawn news.com. So in this way the total is 802 mm. If you are reverting this rain data and you want to have the total maximum, than you have to replace the rain data of Karachi to the total maximum. In the same way i have calculated the rain data of Islamabad as well, i.e by picking the highest rain of the day from the different locations of Islamabad, and summing it.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I have calculated the rain in the same manner as i told you about the rain data in September of Lahore above. I need not to support my calculations, because PMD already gives the rain data for many locations of Islamabad and Lahore. And in your case PMD only gives the data of two locations. I have calculated again and again and also given the detail of calculations above.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

References.
You have not told me earlier about the references. That's why i said so. Keep this in your mind that the more references the article has the more it is better, beside this ref. It is another thing that someone haven't added the required amount of references in the article of "Climate of Pakistan" Th reference which you have given for 2001 rain of Karachi,, also says about the rain in 1997,1998,1999, and 2000. So what about these years. Once you have added these years, than you said in your edit summary "wrong data", despite the fact that the rain of 2001 is also included in the same reference !!! So the rain of 2001 might be wrong in this case.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Your article
I have not said that i have created the two articles, in fact have a look here, you have not created the climate of Karachi, see here in the revision history of the article,, so do not say that its your article. Its your hard work on Climate of Karachi only !!! While the rest is of mine.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't mean that you have created the article at all !!! This article is not your article, refer to Ownership of articles.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 12:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Your recent article
You have created the new article Climate of Multan, which is almost incomplete, i will advise you to create your Sandbox, as i have created and first create any article in your sandbox than after completing it create it on Wikipedia.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Climate of Hyderabad
Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Climate of Hyderabad. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Hyderabad,_Sindh. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Hyderabad,_Sindh - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Cindamuse (talk) 11:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I noticed the article was restored. Happy to see it worked out well. Have a great day/evening. Cindamuse (talk) 02:41, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Inline citations
The articles on which you are working, the references needs to be cited in the standard form as i did to my article, Climate of Quetta, see Citing sources, for more detail and how to cite the references in the standard form. In the standard form you need to put "Publisher", "Title", "Author", "Access Date", and if the link is PDF than put "Format PDF" in the citation. If you still do not understand by reading Wikipedia:Citing sources than ask me i will tell you how to do so. By replacing all the references with this form your articles will look more perfect, so start doing this it takes a lot of time and hard work so do it.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:18, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit
First of all they are not your articles, see WP:Ownership, and secondly most articles created by you lacks alot of things, which includes grammatical mistakes, cohesion, tone, to meet Wikipedia's quality status and much more, you will learn it when you will become an expereienced wikipedia user.

You are wrong my dear, i have only putted there this tag copy edit to improve the article's grammatical mistakes, and tone. In fact i had also putted this in the article of climate of Quetta which is made by me (contributed by me), only to enhance it. After the copy editing which will be done by an expert user he will remove this tag. So would you not like to improve your article, by improving its grammatical mistakes and other things ??? or you want to left those articles in shabby condition for more information regrading copy editors, See:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I do not care about the millions of articles, i tends to put this tag in my area, mean the articles of my interests, and other users put this tag in their own areas of interest. So this covers the millions of articles, if you doesn't want to improve your articles then you can remove this tag, but keep it in your mind that your articles will be improved and will meet the standard of Wikipedia if the tag remains on it.

Alternately you can asked the users of your area of interest from WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors they will respond to your request quickly and will copy edit your articles, so go ahead.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 10:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Do not hide yourself by reverting the TAGS of "Clarify", and "citations", try to face reality instead of reverting edits without any explanation and proofs. You need not to explain Global warming, but you are required to explain how does the global warming effects the climate of Hyderabad so that the heavy downpours produces, go and find some references in this context and put it in the article, and that's it, and that's what i want. I need not to see either the article of shamal or for continental air in PMD, you are only required to put the references along the sentences.

And also do not put useless images in the articles of climate, find some images which matches the topic of the article, would you like to put the image of Thunderstorm as the main image in the article of Islamabad ???? Absolutely not, so try to understand the usage of image, if you are not getting my point then go and read the Wikipedia: policies, for further details.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 13:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

You didn't got my point as expected !!! i do not need your useless explanation, i need the references only. As far as the articles on Wikipedia are concerned yes you are free to write anything you like and also the right thing but with reliable sources and references which you are missing in this context. Search on net about the effects of global warming on the climate of Pakistan, and put it in the article that's it, or just remove the sentence which i have tagged if you do not want to explore the net.Every body knows about shamal winds but these are popularly known by their presence in Dubai, and UAE so give the reference which says about the presence of these winds in Balochistan.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC) My Dear ! i am not telling you to delete the right information, but i am telling you to put reference, as you told me every time that "you are always right and you always proved yourself" so go ahead and prove yourself that the information you have putted there is right and also you are right !!!! Hope this time you got my point.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

It was the daily weather forecast report issued by PMD on daily bases but it is as "continental air prevails all year around" as you wrote.
 * See:Air mass, for more information.
 * see: Weather Glossary
 * See: Meaning of Continental Air

According to About.com the last source above it says: Definition: Any body of air that develops over a large land area and contains a relatively low amount of moisture compared to air parcels that develop over water. Means the air with less moisture and if the air has less moisture then how can clouds form and how can they rain ???

It generally prevails over Pakistan during the period when the HIGH pressure persist over Pakistan, and there are zero chances of rain due to HIGH pressure. So come to your point you said in the article of Multan the Continental Air prevails all year round, so how can Multan receives rain in this period (all year round) ??? in the presence of HIGH pressure. Simply:
 * Continental Air =  High Pressure {No rain in this period}.
 * LOW pressure =  Rainy activity with occasional gaps.

Have you ever seen a daily page of PMD which said "widespread chances of rain, and continental air prevails over the country ???

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

So put the references in their respected articles.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 14:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

My Dear, what is the meaning of "clarify" ??? explain it or the reader will be think that the city doesn't receives any significant rain all around the year. Write it as the Adn add the references which you have posted on my talk page. you forgot to sign your post !
 * Continental Air prevails during the period when there is no rain

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

No. i have wrote in the edit summary that it was edited by Guild of Copy editors who are the experienced editors, you can alternatively add as in climate of Quetta, or check other articles, where mostly is was written as the two methods.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

It looks strange but the cyclone was so strong that its caused widespread rains in northern parts of Balochistan as well. I live in Quetta for many years, and i have never seen such rains in the month of June in Quetta, because June is among the most driest months in Quetta. Check out the monthly rainfall statement for the month of June, 2007. Oh, its not currently available on PMD, i have saved it earlier, but the extreme weather records for Quetta show such records which is available on PMD, the rain spell continue for 4 to 5 days intermittently just like the winter rain in Quetta, and flooded the roads of Quetta. It was the record breaking monthly rain for the month of June in Quetta ! Well i can E-mail you the rest of the monthly statements of rainfall which are currently not available on PMD, and i had saved them earlier but it depends on you if you want then message me your E-mail.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok i will provide you with an additional ref, for June rainfall, but you have putted there uselessly citation tag, see when to put the citation tags. The ref is already given there, will add another soon.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 20:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

no References in "List of cyclones that affected Karachi and the Sindh coast"
Put some references in "List of cyclones that affected Karachi and the Sindh coast", to make the article more real, and perfect. Or i will have to put Citation tags there.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 18:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

So you don't need to put the references as a whole in the article the reader will search on net about the respective topic from the article, that what you want to say !!!

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok so finally you have putted the correct reference.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

So do not put references in the whole article, everyone will open the respective link by clicking on it !!! Put some references in that section to support the content which you have written, and i think that it isn't a difficult task.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me please when i have changed the ref which you have putted there ??? I am sure that for some reason i have did so. You are a new user at Wikipedia and i encouraged the new users to edit on Wikipedia but for some reasons you are conflicting with me, if you thin that i am teasing you so try to make a use of guild of copy editors, they will also revert your incorrect edits as i do. So do not be uncivil, try to be wise and have a control on yourself while editing, i above observe that some times you exaggerate on articles, while writing fake information as you did in the article of climate of Multan by putting 52 temp. Everything which you write needs referneces, and writing skills. Regards

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

The articles created by you have a very notability so it gets a little attention. Thats why you do not have to face conflict with other users. I only edit the articles to make them more perfect, other than teasing you. You have to pass more time on Wikipedia in order to get the real meaning of editing, reverting, and the use of citations.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 19:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

As far as the February rain of Dubai is concerned, yes it is true that 190 mm is average, because in most cases, Dubai receives more than 100 mm of rain in just 24 hours, you have heard many times about it. So February is the wettest month. While 100 mm is the annual average, just like that of Karachi whose annual average rain is only 200 mm but what about the current year as Karachi has received more than 700 mm of rainfall only is monsoon season. So if it can not happen with Dubai ???? Or it can only happen with Karachi ? The average rain of any city is based on the driest months of the particular city, and it is not based on their wettest months, otherwise the average of Islamabad would be more than 2000 mm ! or that of Karachi would be more than 1000 mm. So his is the case with Dubai, Read the reference which i have given in the article of climate of Dubai for January rainfall when 110 millimetres (4.3 in) of rain was recorded in 24 hours, and like this rain there are a bundle of such rains, because Dubai is a desert and heavy downpours are not common but they are common for at least once a month whether it is January or February or March because they are considered as the wettest months in Dubai.

Have you ever heard on news on any other source that the temperature in Multan touched 54 ??? Even the temperature of Mohenjodoro did not touched 54, it touched 53.5, so where were you senses when you wrote 54, while copying something from any source you have to very careful it is not that case that everything will be correct, the temperature of Multan is wrong ! You have to copy the content from any source with your eyes and brain open. Because in most cases the content has been exaggerated like that of Multan.

It was my suggesiton to add more references in the section of cyclones, if do not want to make the article better and want to keep the article with rough condition than its your choice its not my headache.

While as far the rains of Karachi are concerned you have mingled the rain data of PMD with DAWN so there was a very big confusion there, and after a tireless discussion we came to consensus with what is written now it the article. I have written 47 mm from PMD, and you have taken the data for the wettest place so it was a different case, currently we are not talking about the rain data of Karachi, it has been your habit that you always bring back past discussions to support your useless arguments, just talk about the present issues which according to me have reached a consensus and there is no need to talk about it any more so best of luck for your forthcoming editing s.

Regards.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 08:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Every edit you make have a lot of mistakes that's why i have a problem with it. If you make edits without any mistakes than i shall not interfere. (By mistakes i mean tone, cohesion, grammatical mistakes, and spelling errors)

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 08:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)