User talk:Hurricane Noah/Archive 5

About your g4 template nom
To be clear, the tools I use to review deleted revs rely on mirrors and as such they do sometimes miss the last few edits prior to deletion, if this was already a wrapper prior to deletion you should feel free to revert me, and just link back to this diff. That said I'm unsure why that wrapper is a problem. These get created fairly frequently for convenience after WikiProject mergers (see the category); it's not at all unusual. All it does is call WP Weather with some parameters pre-filled however additional parameters can always be added later, and it's subst only with anomiebot automatically fixing any accidental transclusions. In principle inexperienced users who fail to hit show preview could misuse it, but accidental duplication is cleared up fairly easily with AWB. Anyway if you still feel it should be deleted just contact the creator; most people, including myself, are pretty good about adding a g7 if you have a good reason for it.Unfortunately due to circumstances beyond my control I keep changing IPs every couple of hours, so I can't follow up here, at least not without risking impersonation, but I don't think any should be needed, like I said if I'm wrong just revert me with a pointer back to this diff. Regards, 176.215.238.161 (talk) 04:26, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane Leslie (2018)
Sorry for my clumsy attempt. Is there a way to force basin=Atl to dispaly metric first, since in this case (and a bunch of others) the hurricane hit mainly southwestern Europe and the whole article is metric first?--Carnby (talk) 08:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, there is no way to do this. The template is not designed to force metric as that is generally uncommon in the north Atlantic. This article is currently at FAC right now, and others are okay with this being the way it is. I'm not going to be here much for the coming days other than dealing with anything else for my FAC. Noah Talk 22:38, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hey Noah, I want to offer my condolences for you and your kin, and I'm extremely sorry to hear about your loss. I know how tough and how painful it is, and I hope that you are able to get through this alright. If you need anything at all, I am here to talk and help in any way I can, just let me know.

🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 00:19, 20 November 2021 (UTC) 

FAR for Tropical Storm Allison
I have nominated Tropical Storm Allison for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 04:00, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones
Hi, just checking that you've seen Portal:Tropical cyclones which may be relevant to some of your current work. Certes (talk) 15:48, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am aware of Portal:TC. Other than anniversaries, Portal:TOR is pretty much complete. Noah Talk 15:59, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Portals
I think there is value having a portal for tropical cyclones (especially because it already exists), as well as tornadoes, and other weather events. I think we should have the parent portal for all of weather, which could just transclude the daily anniversaries and selected articles from each individual article type. There might not be a winter storm or blizzard for some days, but who knows. I bet there have been tornadoes on every day in a calendar year, with some days in the winter maybe only having an EF1. I would like to make sure that the anniversaries for tropical cyclones don’t miss any important articles. The daily anniversaries were created in 2006. Our coverage of tropical cyclones of the world has grown significantly since then. I hope it won’t take another 15 years for the same amount of exponential growth of Wikipedia global weather content.

Also, you should run for becoming an administrator. Wikipedia loses about 10% of its administrators every year. You are clearly a beneficial, constructive, and reasonable editor, who I am sure it would be trusted with the tools of being an administrator. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 01:17, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * List of tornadoes by calendar day seems to have a suggestion for most days, though many of them lack specific articles. Certes (talk) 01:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

GAN Backlog Drive – January 2022
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject Good articles at 21:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC).

Template:WikiProject Meteorology
Hello, Hurricane_Noah,

It is not obvious to me what a WikiProject RFC talk page discussion in June has to do with deleting this particular page tonight, December 31st. I think you might have more success with approaching an admin who is familiar with your WikiProject discussions to do any necessary page deletions concerning this project merger as the regular crew of admins who patrol CSD categories won't know what to make of requests like this that concern conversations that happened six months ago. Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Templates nominated for deletion
Since you deal a lot with weather-related template, you should probably know about this. Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 5. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:27, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Hurricane Michael related
Template:Hurricane Michael related has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for alerting me about the latest "Hurricane Isaac 2018" scam. I have tagged the new article for speedy deletion as a hoax. And I will warn the editor; he is cruising for a block if he keeps this up. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:06, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Tropical cyclone effects by region/P3
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Re: 2018
Yea, I got into Titli briefly. The storm just got very boring to write about. As I was doing it, I was wondering what some of the bigger events were to affect India, and the other bigger weather events around the world, hence why I created Weather of 2002 and Weather of 2004. I have a bit more time these days to edit, but 2018 doesn't exactly enthuse me, such as finishing the season article or doing Gaja or Phethai. Also, I just have too many articles I've worked on over my last 16 years editing, a lot of which I'm not interested in revisiting, even if it results in the loss of a FA/GA. In the near future, I'm going to do a few more weather articles by year, so we at least have them going back to 2000. In doing the global weather articles, I found better death and damage totals for some of the deadliest weather events since 2000. It's just as important to get a good death/damage total for every tropical cyclone as it is for every non-tropical cyclone and heat wave. I think whatever we can do to incentivize editors to write is a good thing. Look at the recent reanalysis - a few editors made sure that all of the updates were reflected on Wikipedia within a few days, quicker than the re-analysis has been updated! As always, there is no deadline, so it's important not to be dejected when things don't get done. I think the important thing is to have a large group of editors who work together, which we have and should be proud of. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:03, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean... some articles got boring for me to do, but I end up forcing myself to complete a project regardless. The problem is that I, as the current task force leader, can only do so much work on my own. I have 17 articles within the topic at either GA or FA and we still have quite a bit left to accomplish. I am trying to get others to chip in, but most of the work as of late has either been KN or myself. I need to make sure my FAs stay up to par as the burden is on me to get more since others either aren't able to or don't want to take articles that far. I will be able to get more articles done once I finish updating my FAs with new information. Noah Talk 21:04, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I appreciate how much responsibility for the project you are taking, which is admirable. It's tricky though, with Wikipedia being a volunteer project, getting people to focus on tasks they might not necessarily want to do. If some collaborations don't end up happening, oh well, take pride in the work that has been done. Because we'll never be done. There's too much info out there, too many topics to write about, and too many things happening in real time to document. It's great when one particular corner of Wikipedia is done, like a featured topic for a season, and that can be a great series of articles to serve as examples for what to do. But just remember, whatever we do have done is already a good service to the global weather community, so every bit that gets done is one more thing to be proud of (as opposed to one less item on the neverending to do list). ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Yellowstone fires of 1988
Maybe you need a lesson in manners. How about before you shoot an article to FAR you have the fucking common decency to await some response on your lone talkpage edit before you immediately jump the gun?--MONGO (talk) 05:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I will note that Noah waited 1 month and 21 days (by my count) from the talkpage notice to send the article to FAR. I understand seeing an article that you have worked on at FAR can be a bit upsetting, but please remain civil in your communications with others. CodingCyclone  please ping/my wreckage 19:57, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Re: 2017–18 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season
Hey there Noah! Yea, that seems like a fun article to do. I gotta be honest, between the Ukranian war and writing List of the deadliest tropical cyclones, I kinda lost a bit of energy toward editing about destructive things. But I've spent some time away from Wiki, took care of some personal needs, got some time outdoors, and I'm better now. The season looks pretty fun to write, especially since all of the sub-articles are done. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to miss having you around Noah. I don't know the full extent of what happened, I haven't been as involved an editor for quite some time, but just know how much I appreciate your contributions. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Merger closure/withdrawal
I am curious as to your decision to withdraw your proposed merger (sorry I’m not providing the link, it’s not convenient to do so on mobile; I’m sure you know which one I’m talking about). While you changing your stance would affect the consensus, once other people support your proposal, you can’t really just unilaterally end discussion by “withdrawing” it, and I myself had found a consensus to merge. Have your opinions on the matter changed? Apart from the withdrawal itself, you had given no indication of such, so the choice struck me as odd. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 05:10, 22 March 2022 (UTC)


 * It's more of neither I nor LightAndDark have the time to enact the changes for what a merge would entail (not a standard and simple merge). There's already enough project drama going on right now and I didn't want any more to occur. Noah Talk 10:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ~TNT (talk • she/her) 21:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I have a very low tolerance for people who think "falling on their sword" is anything other than a cop out—your retirement and comments here are rather daft. For clarity, this is not a self-requested block (although you requested it multiple times) ~TNT (talk • she/her) 23:48, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I violated the terms upon which I have agreed to follow and therefore have no standing in this community as a member. This is how justice works. You violate the rules and then you get your just punishment. My longstanding role in these issues means I deserve severe punishment for my crimes against wikipedia. Noah Talk 23:51, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * We have no criminal justice system, and the Community does not mete out punishments. The Community takes steps to stop/prevent disruption. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 02:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I realize you do not blame me entirely for this situation, however, it is my fault.
 * 1. I allowed myself to get roped into this behavior by others
 * 2. I was not a good role model for other and newer members as a result, which in turn roped them into the same behavior.
 * 3. I didn't push back hard enough against people or do enough to stop the problem.
 * All I can say is I hope the people who were involved in the situation come forward and admit to what they have done. Recognizing that their actions are wrong is the first step towards redeeming themselves and forging a new, better path. I honestly considered many people on the discord chat my friends and didn't want to hurt them. I left the discord chat a couple of days ago because of its toxicity and the present situation with no intent to return regardless of the outcome in this case. The best thing I can do is distance myself from the server and people who have led me down this path. Noah Talk 16:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Arbcom notice
You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Arbitration/Requests/Case and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, ~TNT (talk • she/her) 00:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Clearly, being blocked makes it difficult to participate in a case. As has indicated, your block is not self-requested, thus you cannot simply ask to be unblocked in order to participate, but if she agrees (and the case is accepted) I believe it would be reasonable to unblock for the duration of the case solely for the purposes of participating. In the meantime, if you would like to make a statement I can copy it over to the Case Request page. Primefac (talk) 12:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * My statement is below, with a tidbit stating that there is also evidence that I emailed. Noah Talk 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I want to make it very clear that I am sorry for what has transpired and I never intended for it to go this far. I have already accepted my fate in this ordeal, however, I hope to right some of the injustices that have happened. Second, in the situation with MarioProtIV, I discussed something off-wiki with him in DMs simply because it was more convenient. I then posted on wiki what we discussed and pinged MarioProtIV for a response on wiki to what we agreed on off-wiki. In terms of the discussion closure, MarioProtIV accidentally posted in the WPTC discord asking for someone to close it. Considering the pushback I had already received from a decent chunk of the project (including MarioProtIV) in regards to the color schemes, I chose to withdraw my merge request as to not attract even more scrutiny from these people. I honestly had no idea that Mario had reverted a previous closure until I was contacted about my withdrawal by Compassionate727. Third, I would like to point out that a large chunk of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has engaged in stealth canvassing. It began with 's ANI where it was discussed off-wiki and project members began to pour in asking that Fleur be topic banned from weather. The project participated in canvassing at ITN where some members opposed an ITN/C item out of protest. It continued from there, leading to numerous move, merge, and other small-scale page discussions being mentioned off-wiki in the discord with some commentary. The colors discussion (RfC) in November was canvassed as it was heavily discussed off-wiki on the discord (no consensus result). People got mad at me for implementing a scheme on March 18 after having discussed it on wiki because many people were not informed that a discussion had taken place. This led to a very minimal portion of the project participating in the discussion. MarioProtIV reverted the changes against that consensus because he disagreed with them. Others were quite frankly upset, with some making ableist comments stating we should do nothing to support the color-blind community because they don't matter. MarioProtIV then started a new discussion on the project talk page to revert the changes which sparked tons of off-wiki discussion. The pressure got to me and I began to involve myself in the off-wiki talks to try and find a solution. The two subsequent proposal discussions were also stealth canvassed as the off-wiki discussion continued. I would like to say that I never blatantly asked anyone to come to any discussion to either support or oppose. Nonetheless, mentioning any on-wiki discussion off-wiki either by linking, reference, or discussion is canvassing and not allowed. I am definitely guilty of the latter two. I have taken responsibility for what I have done and intend to make some of this right by aiding in this arbcom case. I don't expect anyone to forgive me for what I have done. Thank you for your time. Noah Talk 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would also like to add here that I also emailed evidence to arbcom for this case. Noah Talk 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Primefac (talk) 07:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Primefac (talk) 07:11, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Tropical Storms arbitration case opened
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 13, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Storms/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly  ( t · c ) 08:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * In response to 's evidence regarding Hurricane Helene (2018) (I am unable to participate directly, but would appreciate it if you could copy): I would like to note that consensus was reached at Talk:2018_Atlantic_hurricane_season/Archive_2 for a merger in 2019 due to lack of effects. An article containing roughly the same amount of content or even less content, the latter being true in this case, shouldn't be created without a consensus to overturn the merger. Noah Talk 20:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. firefly  ( t · c ) 20:54, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To avoid the necessity of these messages, I have unblocked your account for the sole purposes of participating in the Arbitration case; I have not partially-blocked you in good faith, so please limit your editing to this page and the ArbCom case pages. Primefac (talk) 06:57, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you and good luck
That's real quick... I just want to say thanks to reviews given at SpaceX Starship; they have become one of my cornerstones to find reliable sources about the topic. I'm wishing you good luck on your future journey away from Wikipedia and treating fellow editors just. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Happy April 1




Check it!

FARs
Since you pinged me at the JK Rowling FAR, I will ping you back here since I am not allowed to respond elsewhere. I don't know what the proper procedure is... either just strike my delist comment or simply ignore it since I am not allowed to participate. You guys will also have to handle that FAR for MONGO since I am unable to participate there as well. I am indefinitely blocked, with my block resuming at the end of the arb com case of which I am a party. Noah Talk 15:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry for putting you in an uncomfortable spot, and I hope things come out OK there. I suspect I can't strike for you, but we can let  know to disregard your delist at JKR.  Be well, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  21:08, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Hurricane Leslie (2018)
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Unblocked
I have unblocked you proper per your clear understanding of the issues which led to the block, and the fact that it no longer serves to prevent disruption to the project, the ArbCom case result notwithstanding. For the avoidance of doubt, my block (as reasoned here), which was procedurally lifted by, does not need to be reinstated on its own merits once the case concludes. — TNT (talk • she/her) 21:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


 * As I stated at ArbCom, I would like to request that I be indefinitely page blocked from WP:WPTC and WP:WPWX and their associated talk pages. I don't think I should be participating at the project any more given what all has happened, and it's likely that people will ping or ask me about various things there once this case ends. Secondly, given the likely outcome of the case, it would be unfair for me to be able to participate while others can't. I feel I should be excluded from future discussions so there isn't a temptation for me to respond. Quite frankly, I don't want to be able to participate there any further as the debates and drama are quite stressful mentally. It's time to leave the projects and the discussions there behind and just work on content. Noah Talk 02:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones closed
An arbitration case Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:


 * is indefinitely banned from closing, or reopening, any discussion outside their own user talk space. This restriction may be appealed after 12 months.
 * is warned about using off-wiki platforms in an attempt to win on-wiki disputes.
 * is warned about using off-wiki platforms in an attempt to win on-wiki disputes.
 * is indefinitely topic banned from pages about weather, broadly construed. This ban may be appealed six months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * MarioProtIV is indefinitely topic banned from pages about weather, broadly construed. This ban may be appealed six months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * A set of best practices for leaders and/or moderators of off-wiki chat platforms to consider adopting

For the Arbitration Committee, -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 14:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Discuss this at: 

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you today for Hurricane Leslie (2018), about "a long-lived system that was the strongest cyclone to affect Portugal since 1842. It caused severe wind damage across Portugal and Spain. Leslie combined with another system to cause severe flooding in the Aude department, France, which was the worst seen there since 1891. River records in the Aude that had held strong since 1871 fell during the storm. This article took months of work to research and write; it contains 81 Portuguese, 27 Spanish, and 17 French-language sources. Incorporating the local perspective is something that I see as a cornerstone with articles like this."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Help with my sandbox
Hello. I was noticing your creations of the Pacific intensity lists, and was wondering if you could help me with User:Chicdat/sandbox, which is a draft of a list of Atlantic tropical storms. Thank you. 🇺🇦 Chicdat <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman">Bawk to me!  10:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't have the time now. I am in a college class right now, working 40 hours a week, and am working on producing maps such as this for use on WP.
 * June 14 2022 Heatwave.png <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 11:35, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, I was just wondering. 🇺🇦 Chicdat <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman">Bawk to me!  11:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually need to go and make all the maps related to heat from May until now. This one took about two hours due to its complexity. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 12:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ripcurrent Statement
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TFL notification
Hi, Hurricane Noah. I'm just posting to let you know that Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 29. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 00:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey/Status on stuff?
Hey Noah, thanks for reaching out the other week. Things in my life are good – really good actually ^_^ I've been doing lots of creative projects, and started my most serious (RL) relationship in five years.

So, what are your thoughts on the general status of weather topics on Wikipedia? I guess ignore (for the moment) the larger issues that have long hurt large collaborative efforts, such as lack of enthusiasm, gradual degradation of existing articles, failure to reach consensus on changes that are probably long overdo, plus other well-known glaring problems... and instead recognize that Wikipedia is still a phenomenal resource, and is really good for keeping up with a rapidly changing world. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I will leave myself a reminder to get back to you when I have time... Dont know when considering what's been happening... Im working my ass off... 56 hours this week for a part time position and have a 10 hour shift tomorrow! HOLY COW! <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 00:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to be here this week... working all seven days now... <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 19:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think generally that our coverage of current events is decent, however, the coverage of broad overarching topics is declining since articles like tropical cyclone are in such poor shape. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 21:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Hurricane Esther Featured article review
I have nominated Hurricane Esther for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

ITN
Re revision 1107718117 – inadvertent, sorry. – Sca (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Votes
I understand count doesn't matter, hence the "!vote" phraseology. It was simply to show that the vast majority of contributors to the discussion so far were in opposition to the move. FrederalBacon (talk) 23:13, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Hurricane Sergio (2018) scheduled for TFA
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Thank you today for the article, introduced: "I have spent a lot of time working on correcting the accuracy of and expanding Sergio's article."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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My tropical cyclone proposal colors (7 and 7b)
Hi Noah, I just want to reach out to you that could you add my tropical cyclone proposal colors on WikiProject Weather/Color RfC from my sandbox page here, because it comes to my preference on the Saffir–Simpson scale on Wikipedia that category 3 colors should be orange, red for category 4, and magenta for category 5 to distinguish the difference in colors of intensity, while keeping depression, storm, categories 1 and 2 colors the same as currently? Add them to that consensus page as 7 and 7b (instead of 8 with a minor difference to tropical storm color between cyan and light green), respectively. I'm not sure about protanopic, deuteranopic, tritanopic, and monochromatic colors for my potential tropical cyclone color category colors, so could you tell me where did you figure out those colors from that may assist for some colorblind people when you add them to that consensus page, or help me about those colorblind assist colors on my sandbox page I've given you? Thank you. -- Allen (talk / ctrb) 15:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * We use https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/ for protanopic, deuteranopic, and tritanopic colors. Simply input your scale and it will give you the colors for all three. I personally use https://www.color-blindness.com/coblis-color-blindness-simulator/ for monochromatic. I just take a screenshot of the normal version of the scale and get the monochromatic colors using that site. Once these colors are added, I will move the proposal over to the main page. I currently don't have the time to do it myself since I have work the next few days and final exams coming up first thing this next week. Thank you for your proposals. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 15:33, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Today's featured article/requests/Cyclone Dumazile
Hi, Noah. I am writing this to inform you that I requested Cyclone Dumazile for TFA next year (2 March 2023) to mark the 5th anniversary of its formation. Please feel free to leave a comment and/or show your support to this nomination.

Regards, Vida0007 (talk) 11:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC).

Happy fall
Hey there Noah, sorry I kinda dropped off the face of Wiki for a while. Too many RL obligations, mostly music gigs and personal life stuff (finally in a good healthy relationship ^_^). So I wanted to check in and see how you were doing. I see you're still trying to get the colors changed to conform to ACCESS concerns. I really appreciate that, and you're right, we can't just not do it because we like how it's always been done. Cheers to what you're doing here, and apologies again for my general lack of responsiveness. See you around! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:16, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Things are about to get real for me... I'm getting an Associate's Degree in two weeks and will have 1.5 years left until I get my Bachelor's. I got behind due to Covid and having to change my major because the math was too difficult (I drew the line after barely making it through Calc II :P). I should have 160 credit hours when I graduate in SP'24. It will be a Bachelor's of Science in Business Administration with minors in Communications and History. I have to prepare for and take the GMAT in February and then prepare to apply for grad school this upcoming fall. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 12:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Congrats on getting the degree! Don't worry about how long it takes; just focus on the big picture, like how you were able to do the 2018 PHS a little bit at a time. That sounds like a useful major, and I'm sure some of the skills you developed from FA writing will come in handy. Editing hasn't been as useful for me lately, as I perform and collaborate more as a musician/artist/performer in NYC. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The thing that's stressing me out isn't getting my BSBA... it's the upcoming GMAT test ($275 cost to take that bad boy) and application/selection process for grad school. I'm honestly afraid about not being good enough to get selected for the MBA program. I have to make sure I get a pretty decent score on that test and get my GPA higher than it currently is to have a good chance at getting in. Even then, I need a strong performance in the interviews and strong recommendation letters. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 15:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The cost for higher education test is so dumb. It's an entry level barrier for some people, and the whole purpose of higher education is that it should be available to all. Take pride in your abilities though. If you want to have a strong interview in your performance, then take pauses when you need to so you don't ramble, and avoid saying "ums" and "uhh". Make sure you don't slouch either. These are all of the things that I would remind my music students, and it really applies to just about anyone. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:58, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * My Associate of Arts degree was conferred today so at least I am now able to say I have a college degree. I will get to pick up the physical degree sometime in January. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 02:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Hurricane Gloria under FA Review
I have nominated Hurricane Gloria for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. George Ho (talk) 02:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Color discussion
I saw the storm rating color discussion you posted here, and would like to put forward the following reasons why the colors should go back to normal:


 * There is a large majority of editors who go against this, including one of my fellow editors United States Man, who takes a hard stance against the new color system, saying "Like others here, I also don't think changing the color scheme that has been used for over a decade is a good idea. The colors have become commonplace all over wikipedia and it is absolutely pointless to change them now and cause confusion." Another one of my fellow editors, Supportstorm also goes against this.
 * Most readers will most likely ignore the key, as those people aren't deep into editing WP like us. This poses a problem, as they won't know what rating the hurricane is at one point in its life if they've read hurricane articles before the color change.
 * It doesn't really show the significance of these storms. Both tornadoes and hurricanes have been affected by this, but if you want more info on this reason go here.

Those are all my reasons. Not trying to brag, but i could make more if you choose to counter-argue this (which i predict you most definitely will). Anyways, good day. Poodle23 (talk) 21:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I think JasonRees did a good job of summarizing why the colors have to change in the comment where he pinged you. The current colors are not accessible to those with various eye ailments and thus have to change to be accessible. This is an issue for people both inside and outside the weather community. That is the essence of what has been trying to occur over the last year. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 22:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wasn't Jason told by Elijahandskip to "respectfully" shut up about this article because he was "not fit" to edit winter weather articles on WP? Poodle23 (talk) 22:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Since I got pinged (think it was by accident since it wasn’t the user link template), I’m just gonna say that was in the middle of a debate where both of us told the other to be quiet. (P.S. I’m also not participating in the color discussions so I have no opinion about it). Elijahandskip (talk) 22:33, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

RfC
I support that "vs" replace "vs." and "v" in boxing match titles.

However, to get consensus on this issue, I've opened an RfC on the issue.

Please comment and offer your opinions on it.

See: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing

Thanks, ---  Tbf69  userpage &bull;&#32; usertalk 19:50, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Willingness to withdraw AfD nomination?
In light of what's emerging about the possible hate crime and the international coverage & statements by politicians, are you willing to potentially save some contentious debate and voluntarily withdraw Articles for deletion/Killing of Brianna Ghey? Your latest comment seems to indicate you believe the event meets WP:GNG now. Lizthegrey (talk) 07:10, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * A withdraw is not possible as it would go against AfD policy since it's not unanimous keeps at this point. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 12:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The nominator can strike out their nom statement, and add a note about the withdrawal. still applies, even if an early close is not possible. I worry that the original nomination text still standing rather than being retracted (especially in light of what we know now) is confusing people. Lizthegrey (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

ITN
Hey. I don't frequent ITN, so I don't really know how things work over there. With the AfD now being closed as a keep, and the killing under investigation as a potential hate crime (those seemed to be the two major objections) would there be any sense in making a second nomination for the Brianna Ghey article? Or are repeat nominations not allowed? Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:44, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * You can make a second nomination. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 02:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, nomination now made :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 02:46, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Featured article review Hurricane Danny (1997)
User:SandyGeorgia has nominated Hurricane Danny (1997) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you today for Cyclone Dumazile, about "the third in a series of five storms that brought heavy, damaging rainfall to Réunion in 2018"! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

FleurDeOdile Off-wiki Canvassing & Cross-wiki Edit Warring: Arbitration request declined
Hello ,

The Arbitration Committee has declined the FleurDeOdile Off-wiki Canvassing & Cross-wiki Edit Warring case request, but the user has been blocked as a checkuser action.

Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:47, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

EM-DAT: The Emergency Events Database
Hello, Hurricane Noah! How do you find a death toll on this website? because I've planned to expand the article using this website. HurricaneEdgar   08:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * You have to have an account registered firstly. You can access the database at . It isnt up to date for all of March yet and doesn't have enough details to really expand the article. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 11:05, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, ok, thank you so much.  HurricaneEdgar    11:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Herman
Hello Hurricane Noah, I have recently noticed that you have reverted one of my edits for tropical storm Herman, but I checked the JTWC track and text updates, and they both show that the storm is currently at 60 knots of 1-minute sustained wind. So, could you please provide a reason to me that you reverted my edit? Thank you! 2003 LN6 (talk) 14:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It was in their trackfile that isn't public. It appears they overrode their 12z value from 90 to 55 to match the BOM since they are on their "continuity of operations plan". <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 14:44, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you! 2003 LN6 (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Backlog clearing
Hey Noah, it's been a while - which WPWX maintenance categories require the most attention as of now - I'm guessing Category:Unsorted weather articles? I should have much more free time to help out here and there before entering university later this year, and after spending the better part of the last year recharging and avoiding the bickering on this website I think it's about time I started easing myself back into contributing somewhere. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 09:08, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, that one is the worst one by far right now. Im trying to get this project back on the right track but it's going to be difficult due to the amount of effort required for everything. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 11:43, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Where should landslides (e.g. 2023 Torkham landslide) fall under? This one (unlike most of the others) wasn't caused by a flood. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 08:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably general meteorology in that case since there was thunder and lightning involved. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 11:29, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Tornadoes/Recent tornado outbreaks
Portal:Tornadoes/Recent tornado outbreaks, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Tornadoes/Recent tornado outbreaks and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Tornadoes/Recent tornado outbreaks during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. United States Man (talk) 22:05, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Canvassing
I've definitely seen people ping previous RM participants, so I assumed it was fine as long as I pinged everyone who was involved in the last RM. From what I see on WP:CANVAS, that guideline seems to support what I said (quote: "Posting an appropriate notice on users' talk pages in order to inform editors on all "sides" of a debate (e.g., everyone who participated in a previous deletion debate on a given subject) may be appropriate under certain circumstances."). Is there something in there I'm misunderstanding? I guess "may be appropriate" is pretty hesitant wording, but considering the turnout on the last RM compared to the current one, it seemed like the right choice to me.

Either way, I certainly wasn't trying to canvas (if anything, that would've jeopardized my position on the move, which was supporting it, since consensus last time was pretty clear opposition), but I figure you know that. Cheers! Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  20:04, 27 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Said prior discussion was nearly two years ago, not a recent one. It's often better to start from scratch when it's been a long time. We had two people taken to AN/I a month or two ago where it was brought up that pinging regular participants from the project is canvassing because there tends to be a hive mentality as to how things should be. WPTC/WPWX is considered to be a non-neutral group of editors according to the participants of the AN/I. The concern is that notifying people from the project would taint the discussion by drowning out the voices from the rest of the community. People are supposed to come across a discussion via watchlist or project notifications rather than a ping within it. Considering WP:YEARS and AfD were both at AN/I for the exact same reason that two of our editors were there (also at the same time as well), I would take caution in pinging people into a discussion. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 20:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I completely missed those ANI discussions. (Could I get a link to them? I found one on FleurDeOdile, which might be one of the discussions mentioned, but otherwise I'm not turning up anything.)
 * In that case, the worry about canvassing makes a lot more sense (and I can totally understand it, given how this project can behave...). Thanks for the explanation! :) Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  20:32, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1119. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah Talk 20:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Vicente (2018)
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 7 June 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Today's featured article/June 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/June 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)