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re:Gibbs
NO WAY! HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF... WHAT... I DON'T EVEN... I CAN'T.. WOW!! THIS IS INCREDIBLE! AND IT'S ATLANTIC IMAGERY! *heart failure* Cycl  one1  (00:50-9-07-2007)


 * NO SERIOUSLY THIS IS AWESOME! I'm sorry, I know you have'nt replied yet but, it's just, I've dreamt of this day. Since i was like 4. Cycl  one1  (00:53-9-07-2007)
 * Yeah, that sucks. But I can live with the Tip-free GIBBS for now, I'm just happy to be able to see what David looked like at its peak. Cycl  one1  (00:56-9-07-2007)
 * Now that you mention it, so was I. Subtrop 3 in 74 looks awesome, Claudette was HUGE, Amelia was pretty big, Charley hardly looks tropical, and hardly looks like a hurricane, and Ivan did have a cool life span. I'm not gonna sleep tonight...  Cycl  one1  (01:31-9-07-2007)

Also, sorry I freaked out earlier. ;) Cycl  one1  (01:40-9-07-2007)

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GIBBS
Umm, are you serious? Like all of it? Back to 1974, the whole shabang? That's really freaking cool. Unfortunately, the GIBBS link isn't opening for some mysterious reason. I'm going back home Saturday. I'll see it then but right now I'm getting screwed. Thanks for the heads up, I'll see you this weekend. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 17:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Is it working for you? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 17:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, well then it's not me. I hope they get that straightened out. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 17:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * [grinning ear to ear]. Daddy like!...%) -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Even if we did, it couldn't beat this. It would be kind of nice to get a picture with a sense of scale since Tip was so big it could have covered the western United States however the picture we got is incredible. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 17:21, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
I was busy again because of events. Anyway, could you give me an idea of what needs to be done in the Wikiproject Tropical Cyclones. Also, do you know anyone who could help fix my userbox page which is, to say the least in miserable condition.--Lionheart Omega 01:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Carlotta (2000)
Well. What have you gone and done now? Yeah, I suppose you guessed it, another good article. One of the easiest reviews I've performed lately. Judging by your past exploits you're used to the accolades but don't let that put you off continuing your incredibly good work. Well done, all the very best, The Rambling Man 21:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, you're lucky, we're doing a WP:GA review drive now, I'm pretty new to it but I'm "lowering my standards"(!) because I've only ever made featured articles. Anyway, glad to be of service, let me know if you'd like me to help out in this, or similar capacity soon.  Best wishes, and thanks for the smile(!), The Rambling Man 21:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, well I was about to get smug and then I looked at your userpage and thought I'd keep it zipped. Keep working hard, all the best!  The Rambling Man 21:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've wound the smug neck in! Yeah, six FA's has taken it out of me - I think I managed something like 150 citations on one of them, Adam Gilchrist, who rather spectacularly made the main page on the day he became a world record breaker in the Cricket world cup final.  Awesome.  But enough.  Suffice to say I'd be glad to review your work in future, let me know, GA, FA, whatever.  All the best. The Rambling Man 21:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Last Frontier
The Southeast Pacific. East of 140W and south of the Equator is the last refuge from tropical cyclones. None. Zero. Nada. Every other tropical ocean has had one but not the southeast Pacific right? Take a look at this picture. Down there in that supposedly untouched ocean is what appears to be a subtropical/tropical cyclone. The center is near the dotted line, somewhat exposed and removed from the convection, but it's attatched and I'd guess those winds to be around 50 knots. The center is closer in this IR picture. And, it formed from an area of disturbed weather, not an extratropical system, which indicates tropical origin. However, it lasted only a day: 12Z on Sep 2 to 09Z on Sep 3. Perhaps the Southwest Pacific is no longer the last frontier. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it's one of these. I found another one that must be known. Hell, Stevie Wonder could pick this out. Look at this beast: . But all I have is tracks and some satellite photos. If someone was ever paying attention to what went on east of New Zealand then they didn't really bother to write it down. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You see from the track map from the Australians I left that there were plenty of easterly storms but the map gives no dates. But the one you like was clearly identified by somebody. Theres something wrong down there if it wasn't, but the first one I found curious. The reason it caught my attention was that the convection looked strong and the center was well defined and fairly close to the convection. The track map clearly shows a storm that formed well east of 140W and reached a respectable intensity. But, again, nothing that could help me identify the mystery storm. Any way you slice it, I think the southeast Pacific may not be as inactive as we think. I doubt we'll ever see a storm east of Easter Island but that part of the world has been so ignored by scientists that I think some interesting things may have gone overlooked. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't forget about this guy and the Mediterranean storms. It's like huntin' ghosts, this rare-storm tracking business. You get a lot of 'what the hell's and not a lot of real answers. I still want to know what those mystery storms on that track map are. Without the advanced imaging the pros have, it's hard to tell if these borderline storms are fair or foul. You need visible, IR, microwave and quickscat images as well as a trained eye to tell if it's really something. But I don't think it takes away from the fun of it. There's probably a breed of tropical cyclone that these fall into that we haven't figured out yet (the Med storms, STS '06, some of the S Pac stuff). Those damn polar lows are friggin' crafty. Someday, someone smarter than us will sit down and get to the bottom of it; find out what we've been seeing. But right now, they're just fun little oddities for us hurricane geeks to chew over ;). -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 04:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It is getting hotter, I don't think there's any doubt about that, but how much we're gonna change that by not spewing so much crap into the air is probably not all that much. "We are mere passengers on the spaceship Earth." By the way, I finished my archives! Almost three years in the making and it's finally finished. I have images of every Atlantic storm 1977-present, every Eastern/Central Pacific storm 1979-present, every Western Pacific storm 1981-present, every Northern Indian storm 1996-present, and every Southern Indian storm 1998-present. The only void is the South Pacific. I found in doing the South Indian ocean that the Southern Hemisphere was going to be tough. I might still do it though. I also have a satellite/radar image and damage photo for nearly every hurricane to strike the United States since 1960. For only one storm do I lack both: Alma-1962. I'm stuck with a rainfall chart. I'm working on logging storm data for every season back to 1900 (lifespan, peak intensity, landfalls and category at landfall, if any). Don't worry, I've still had some of the best vacations of my life during those three years ;) -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 20:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, no Doria. I didn't get that far. Unfortunately, very little comes free in this day and age. Very few of my pictures are public domain. I don't even know where I got many of them. If I notice one, I'll put it up. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I've looked at your links, and see nothing but extratropical lows. Was it a gridding problem that has now been fixed, or something like that? Some tracks have gone towards 120W in the past, as pointed out in the example above. Thegreatdr 17:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Stuff
You might want to revive a Cosme sandbox, since the latest forecast brings it back to a TS near Johnston Island and it's expected to cross into the WPac as a TS. Also, I desperately need your help in dealing with storm05 here - Talk:Typhoon Dianmu (2004). Thanks. – Chacor 14:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane GAs
If your not busy writing hurricane articles, can you please help the Uncategorized Good articles task force by adding the |topic=natsci to the GA templates on hurricane articles along with the |oldid= to the hurricane related articles? Tarret 02:27, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Cosme (2007)
If you don't mind, I'm gonna write this article, if its not done by the time I leave for my Lake George trip, I'll either let you finish it for me, or finish it after I come back. I'll be gone from July 26 - August 5. Also do you have a way to access IRC, because IRC@work is down? ᒥᑐ ch piłłangisaqtuq 15:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I mind. Nothing to write about except storm history right now. No impact. No use having an article only with storm history - even if it's written by Hink. ;) Also, I am concerned over how you would write it, given that you introduced some relatively poor prose into the seasonal article (which I corrected) - you said it "inched" towards Hawaii (it's moved at an average of 16 kt or so the whole time, that's not 'inching') and you mentioned something about forecasted strengthening 'outside the forecast period', which makes no sense since it's impossible to forecast outside the forecast period per se. – Chacor 15:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Let's see what happens. If Johnston Atoll gets slammed, we might have some impact. It's all a matter of time. Also, reading what you just added, my writing has become better, as I have had practice writing road articles. I have pulled off more B-class and a couple of GA articles. I also am very bored so I just wanna try writing a hurricane article. (Mitch Remembers he has to publish Emilia at some point). All I havea currently is a long intro. ᒥᑐ ch piłłangisaqtuq 15:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Poor choice of wording on my part. I don't mean it was poorly written, because grammatically and everything it's correct. I just mean that the information was flat out incorrect, since it didn't "inch" along, nor does one predict "outside the forecast period". – Chacor 15:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the sig, I thought i'd test out my name in the Inuit language. Also, I cancelled the Cosme one. I was looking to Hurricane Hiki (1950) - just for the heck of rare Central Pacific article. I'm gonna have to look pretty deep for that one though. Mit ch contribs 22:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a testing idea. It's turning out better than I planned, but I doubt it'll work. Why are you curious btw? Mit ch contribs 01:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you wanna help out, go right ahead :). Mit ch contribs 01:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in popular culture deletion debate
Greetings! An article which you have edited, Tropical cyclones in popular culture, has been nominated for deletion. You may wish to voice your opinion in the deletion debate. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

ESRB re-rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion FAC
Thank you for your comments on the FAC, Hurricanehink. I believe I have addressed everything that you have mentioned (I have moved the topless image to the top of the article, cleaned up the intro sentences on the sections you have mentioned, changed instances of "debacle" to "controversy", introduced an earlier link to HCMC, and removed contractions in the article's unquoted prose.) Thanks again! Geuiwogbil 03:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

2007 WPac typhoon season
If you have time, can you write a prose for Typhoon Usagi for the 2007 Pacific typhoon season article. If you don't have time, that is fine. Thanks in advance. ---CWY2190TC 21:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

2007 Candidates for the Hurricane Hall of Fame
With Cal and Tony getting the nod in baseball, I thought now would be the time to resurrect my Tropical Hall. This year's candidates:


 * Great American Hurricane of 1821
 * 1837 Racer's Storm
 * Great Havana Hurricane of 1846
 * Atlantic Hurricane of 1853 (was the strongest tropical cyclone on record for 81 years. Possibly eclipsed by the Havana storm.)
 * Saxby's Gale - 1869
 * Great Indianola Hurricane of 1875
 * Brunswick Hurricane of 1898
 * Sarasota Hurricane of 1925 - latest hurricane strike on the US
 * Hurricane Eloise - 1975
 * Subtropical Storm One - 1978

Five of these guys are going to the Hall. If you were king, who's in and who's out? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha ha! I'm glad I'm doing this again. It's too much fun to give up. Okay, first of all who's out? 1853 storm is out and Sarasota storm is out. Now, who's in?


 * The 2007 Hall of Fame class, as chosen by consensus of the Atlanta/New Jersey Hurricane Writer's Association, is: From the 1821 Season, The Great American Hurricane. From the 1846 Season, The Great Havana Hurricane. From the 1875 Season, The Great Indianola Hurricane. From the 1975 Season, Hurricane Eloise.


 * One more spot! Who's it going to go to? The Race to the Hall has just gotten interesting. To replace the two eliminated, the Great Caribbean Hurricane of 1831, and the Cuban Hurricane of 1932 have entered contention. They join Racer and his 105 victims, Saxby and his 100, Brunswick's Georgian rampage, or will it go to a Winter Wonder from 1978? [covers mic] (Sorry about that, the nomination board appears to not have been as thorough as they might have been.) So, Hink, we send it up to you. Who's going to the Hall of Fame? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * And there you have it folks! The 2007 Hall of Fame Class.


 * Great American Hurricane of 1821
 * Great Havana Hurricane of 1846
 * Great Indianola Hurricane of 1875
 * Cuban Hurricane of 1932
 * Hurricane Eloise - 1975


 * The Induction Ceremony will be held in Castro Square, Havana, Cuba tomorrow at 8 PM ;). Thanks, Hink, this is a fun little boredom breaker. I think it also recognizes that there's more to hurricanes than just death and destruction. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * What, you think I should include storms of other basins? There's still plenty of Atlantic storms to be honored, many existing before records began in the Pacific. But I expect the Pacific's time will come. As will that of the Indian Ocean, where the deadliest storms in history have wrought. Right now, I feel the older storms should be honored first, since they've waited the longest. Chantal doesn't seem to want to come. She's a little shy ;) -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Potential additions spreadsheet
I'm not allowed to share it, unfortunately (it's the work of one of the current hurricane specialists). Another person within this project, who is also in the tropical cyclones mailing list, made a similar request a few days ago. Whenever it has come up within the tropical cyclone e-mail list (which includes numerous forecasters and researchers) it has not been forwarded to the whole group. If other TC researchers involved in related studies aren't allowed to see it, I'm fairly sure no one outside the hurricane reanalysis project is allowed to see it either. The spreadsheet starts in 1946 and runs to current, and is color coded as to which candidates have the best chance for addition. It includes all known tropical depressions and approximate locations of formation/existence. What I can do (like I did with 1969) is list the location of nondeveloping tropical depressions within the respective hurricane seasons, since this information is already in print and was once widely disseminated. Thegreatdr 22:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Curious storm from 1988
Wow, that's interesting. My verdict is that it was a subtropical cyclone that developed from a frontal low, although I'm not sure it has tropical storm force winds down there. Looks like one of those polar systems that are always sending false alarms, only it's off North Carolina. The storm to it's northeast looks interesting as well. It looks pretty tropical. All in all, I'd say that May, 1988 was a baffling month in the tropics. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 16:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah and did you notice the thing to the northeast of the first one? It looks pretty good too, though I don't think it lasted as long. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 16:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

1986 Pacific hurricane season
Whats up? I haven't talked in a while so I thought I could use your opinion on my new FA idea and if you have any good links. Just reply if possible. I just came back from vacation btw. Mit ch contribs 22:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm actually not targeting FT this time, just four seperate articles. I'm trying to the season alone a FA. Lake George, NY. Mit ch contribs 22:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Co-ordinate sandboxes
User:Plasticup already has a Dean sandbox ready. You might want to co-ordinate your efforts. – Chacor 04:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

TD5
If you have your sandbox ready, you might want to publish it now. TS warnings. – Chacor 14:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, TD5 article. But if you really want to wait to see if it doesn't collapse, might also be a good idea. – Chacor 15:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * DATA FROM A NOAA RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS REACHED TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH AND IS NOW TROPICAL STORM ERIN. A SPECIAL ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED WITHIN THE HOUR.
 * Publish now, then. – Chacor 15:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Super Typhoon Sepak
You said you are working on a narrative for this typhoon. I will try to contribute with reports from Taiwanese media as the storm passes over our country. ludahai 魯大海 05:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Sepat prose
Have restored parts of the previous prose. Couple of issues with yours:
 * 1) How many times must I say "Severe Tropical Storm" is not a proper noun? :P
 * 2) Sourcing was off. What was there/I used the FSU FTP for JMA's high seas bulletins for some of the upgrades. For example, your typhoon upgrade source was not until a few hours after it had already been upgraded.
 * 3) Yours had no sourcing for the distance from the Philippines at upgrade from typhoon.

If you want to find a way to weave your prose in, yeah, but I think outright replacing what was there when it pretty much said the same thing, while you could fairly do that ("If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it"), was a bit unreal and slightly rude, given how long it took me. – Chacor 02:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you slightly misconstrued "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it" - I was saying you could rightly "edit mercilessly" my prose, just I didn't find it very nice. LOL. – Chacor 02:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, full cite web referencing isn't difficult to do, I just didn't bother with it last night lest I got edit conflicted which would have been a royal pain. I do know it took you some time to do yours, I only removed one para, from TD to TY (left the first one intact). I dunno, but mine had two and also talked a bit about the ridging. LOL. Come on IRC? – Chacor 02:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

What do you make of this craziness?
Take a look at this picture of the eastern Pacific on August 8, 1994. The most obvious storm is Tropical Storm Hector off Baja California. Tropical Storm Li is at the far left. Tropical Depression One-C is near 150 degrees. But look between Hector and One-C near 120 degrees. That appears to be a tiny storm. I judge it to be either a strong depression or a weak tropical storm. It lasts for four and a half days and then, as it's weakening, another storm seems to appear:, (vis). Just like its brother, this new guy stays small and lasts for another four days and appears to be stronger than the first; a surefire storm:. Could somebody smarter than I am please explain this to me? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No, as you can see by my slow response, my eye's are glued on Dean, but I've been combing through my East Pacific archives and I did notice that as I was looking for a possibly better picture. Nice to know at least one of those was classified. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 02:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

1900-1902 hurricane season
what does templates even mean i saw hurricane seasons did not have the date settings as of like 2007 season so i'm trying to set it up the same way as current seasons —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Hurricane Dean
Actually...Hurricane Dean is Category Five. I changed it to Category Five and then you changed it back, so I wanted to let you know that. The Updater would like to talk to you! 04:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I hope you don't believe in omens
A while back, I liked to pretend I was one of the forcasters at NHC. In 2005, just for kicks, I wrote this, attempting to mirror an actual advisory. It is the complete text and has not been recently edited:

ZCZC MIATCPAT5 ALL

TTAA00

BULLITEN

NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

HURRICANE FELIX ADVISORY NUMBER     19

5 PM  AST WED  SEP  08  2007

EXREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE FELIX LOOMS OFF THE FLORIDA COAST…

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA PENINSULA FROM TAMPA SOUTH AROUND CAPE SABLE NORTH TO VERO BEACH...INCLUDING THE FLORIDA KEYS AND LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR COASTLINE STRETCHING FROM NORTH OF VERO BEACH TO ST. AUGUSTINE. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTLINE STRETCHING FROM NORTH OF VERO BEACH TO JACKSONVILLE BEACH. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTLINE STRETCHING FROM PALM HARBOR TO CEDAR KEY.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTLINE STRETCHING FROM NORTH OF JACKSONVILLE BEACH TO ALTAMAHA SOUND. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR THE COASTLINE STRETCHING FROM NORTH OF CEDAR KEY TO KEATON BEACH.

FELIX IS AN INTENSE CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE AND IS POSITIONED AT 77W JUST SOUTH OF 25N HEADING NORTHWEST AT 11 MPH.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS LAST REPORTED AT 170 MPH WITH A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 909 MB…26.84 INCHCES.

A STORM SURGE OF UP TO 28 FEET CAN BE EXPECTED UPON LANDFALL. MAJOR FLOODING AND TORNADOES ARE LIKELY.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 8 PM AST FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT FULL ADVISORY AT 11 PM AST.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM, MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

FORCASTER BROWN

$$

-- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 23:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * It's kind of creepy isn't it? I mean, I wrote it two years ago. If this comes even close to true, I'll need to see a therapist. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm... well, you said it is a Cat 5 due to windspeeds, so you're using the wrong term. They use "Potentially catastrophic" for Category 5 storms, while they reserve the "Extremely dangerous" you used for Category 4's... Plus 909 hPa is kind of high for that speed... but whatever. I should go to sleep. :P Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 08:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Georges in need of help
There has been some discussion over the status of Hurricane Georges vis-a-vis the good article standards. Please see the discussion at good article review. Your help and expertise are needed. Thanks. --Jayron32| talk | contribs 01:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've gone through the references and done the tedious job of formatting them in cite web format. That said, could you check some of the storm reports? Two of them appear to be from 1999, a year after the storm, so I don't know what happened there... I left those because it is kind of late and I'm sleepy, but the formatting of those should be fairly straight-forward, once they're fact-checked. Also, mind keeping an eye on the GA/R? I'll be completely away from computers this weekend, so I won't be able to check it. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 08:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Effects of Hurricane Dean in the Lesser Antilles
I have been working these last few days on Effects of Hurricane Dean in the Lesser Antilles and could use a little feedback before I go much further. I think that the Preparations, St. Lucia, and Dominica sections are near completion, and I am wondering what you think of them. You are one of the authorities on TC articles, and if you have the time I would really appreciate a quick peer review. Plasticup  T / C 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tips. I certainly wouldn't have gotten the currency formatting on my own! As for Dominica, so far there are no dollar value estiminates of the cost to the agriculture sector, so I am holing off on a "total cost". Plasticup  T / C 15:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

The Greatest Hurricane Season of all time
I was bored and I thought this would be fun. Worldwide, what season of what basin do you think earns the title "Greatest Season of All Time"? I think it would be interesting to scatter this question around the talk pages of users who frequent the hurricane pages and see what kind of answers we get. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure. Sounds good. I don't know if we want to make everybody pick five though. Three might be a better number. I'd be nice if we could get them to give a reason for selecting their #1 pick. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, five. But the point about asking everyone to give a reason is still valid (thank you for yours). Hmm, I guess you're wondering what my list is, huh?  --  § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 03:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You still there? I was a litte surprised not to see the "New Messages" box when I logged in. I'm going to start bouncing around the talk pages. The results should start popping up on my page if you'd like to see them. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello! Why is no one responding?! What the hell is going on? I've left messages on several people's pages and I have not a single response. WTF? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 23:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I responded on Eric's page. I was extravagantly bored, so I picked 10. I hope I didn't totally overload Eric's page, But I included reasons for each season. Cycl one1  (01:59-1-09-2007)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclone1 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Dean
You wrote: "Please do not add unsourced, and potentially false information onto Wikipedia, as you did on Hurricane Dean (2007); if you wish to add the information, please add a reliable source to it. Thanks. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)"
 * That's exactly why I was surprised it was not yet mentioned or added to the page- it was so notable and widely noted in some met circles that the circulation (not really Dean any more) survived that long and that far, I think it's highly notable for that article. It's just hard to find non-ephemeral sources on it. Ferd Blivid 04:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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A helping hand
Ok you may have noticed me on the various hurricanes pages although i doubt you have cos i dont really spend alot of time on here. Basically i wanna help contribute more to the tropical cyclones portal. Now i know that everything is made clear what needs doing and so on but tbh its like giving me a feast and asking me where do i wanna start. Im hoping to learn alot more than what i do know about cyclones and i jus wanna help out. I was wondering if you could give me a point in the right direction with what needs doing on an article or whtever. I hope im not being too much of a hassle but i wanna try and get to know a few people on here and you seem to know your stuff so you were the best place to start. hope to here from you soonSeddon69 20:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Felix article
Hi Hurricanehink, I saw your message on my talk page. Sorry, I haven't been able to access Wikipedia very much recently. I was only ever looking at fixing up one of the images, so please go ahead with that Felix article you were planning on, as I won't be able to make any changes. Michael2 10:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

re: Graphical Storm Heading in Atlantic Hurricane Pages
Hello. I added the storm heading/list in the storm section of the 2007 Storm Season earlier and you had it removed. You're much more dedicated to these pages, and have a more more inate knowledge of them, so I wanted to know why you did not want the heading listed. It appeared dynamic and functional. Please advise. Thank you. DigitalCatalyst 16:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding this, to show what I added:

ToC2007Atlantichurricaneseason

Thank you again! DigitalCatalyst 16:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC) I see what you mean. I don't know if I can remove the redlink, as its part of the template. But I'll see if I can! I like this display as it shows the order, intensity, name and number of different types of storms in one place, making it very useful. I agree though, as the storm season isn't complete yet, there shouldn't yet be a list of storms from the 2007 storm season. Though if there was one, it wouldn't hurt. DigitalCatalyst 16:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

re: Henriette
I followed your advice and have been using the dicussions. Its been slow progress because i was in college all day today so i havnt done as much work as i would have liked. One question i wanted to ask was how in depth should i go into changes in pressure etc. I know this storm didnt really do anything spectacular but the spanish version of the page seemed to have alot of pressures and things like that.

Many thanks Seddon69 21:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

ok one more question i wanted to ask, do you think it would be ok for me to do an article for Hurricane cosme, i thought it would be low key enough for me to work on. My other question was how do i create sandboxes? Seddon69 22:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Hi. I've nominated Hurricane Humberto (2007), an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know, where you can improve it if you see fit. --​​​​D ​​tbohrer​​​ ​talk•contribs 04:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Interactive hurricane builder
Hi Hurricanehink, I added the link to an interactive hurricane builder that you removed. I read the guidelines, but was there something I did wrong? I am new to editing Wikipedia but do so respectfully. Thanks Lenspeak 16:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess I see your point. I thought that since it was a different method of learning, it made sense under "Learning resources." Thanks for your feedback.--Lenspeak 19:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

WOW!
1974 Eastern Pacific! Twice during the same week in August were there five storms active at once, all with not more than 50 longitudinal degrees of seperation. At 00Z on August 24, there was Tropical Storm Olive (C. Pac), Hurricane Ione, Hurricane Kirsten, Tropical Storm Lorraine and Hurricane Joyce. At 18Z on August 26, there was Ione, Kirsten (now a storm), Lorraine, Joyce and Hurricane Maggie. This time, there were five for a full 12 hours! My God! Can you imagine? A glimpse of greatness: only Ione is missing from this picture. Seemingly near the Mexican coast and closest storm to center on the left hand side is Maggie. Joyce is the next obvious storm (theres a little debris in between the two). And in the haze at the extreme far left are two storms; Kirsten is the farthest away and Lorraine is a footstep to its northeast. Wow! That's unconscious! Have there ever been five Atlantic storms active at once? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 06:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Not even 1971. Irene was an undeveloped tropical depression until 00Z on the September 17th, long after Fern and Heidi had dissipated. The most at one time the Atlantic has had is four, unless you count tropical depressions. But if you do that, then 1974 EPac had six at 00Z on August 26; Olive was an undissipated depression in addition to four storms (Joyce, Kirsten, Lorrain and Maggie) and a hurricane (Ione). -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 17:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I know right? The picture we do have is much better than what I thought I'd get. I've found five different occations since 1950 where the Atlantic has had four storms active at once, but not one with five. Shockingly, 2005 is not among them. The most that year ever had at one time was three (Maria, Nate and Ophelia). On September 11, 1961; Carla, Debbie, Esther, and Betsy were active. Carla was a Category 5 hurricane, Debby and Betsy were hurricanes. Esther was just a storm. The affore-mentioned 1971 (Sep. 12, to be exact) saw Tropical Storm Fern inland over Texas, Tropical Storm Edith in the Bay of Campeche, Hurricane Ginger in the open Atlantic and Tropical Storm Heidi southeast of the Carolinas. Didn't happen for almost another 25 years until the famous Parade of Storms. On August 29, 1995; Hurricanes Iris and Humberto joined Tropical Storms Karen and Luis, all east of Bermuda. That we do have a picture of: . '95 almost did it again later in the year when Roxanne almost joined Opal, Pablo and Noel. History was made on September 25, 1998 when Karl strengthened into a hurricane. Four hurricanes. Hadn't happened in over 100 years. Georges, Karl, Jeanne and Ivan. Those four were at least named storms together until Ivan became extratropical late on the 27th. Almost four days! The last one sure surprised me. I had no idea that on September 23, 2004, four storms were active: resurrected Ivan was a tropical storm in the Gulf, Jeanne and Karl were hurricanes in the open Atlantic and way away off Africa was Tropical Storm Lisa fighting the shear. But not one of those years had five at once. I'll keep looking. I know 1893 damn nearly had it at 03Z on August 19, but there's no way to know with the best tracks sort of open ended. Whew! Wasn't that fun?! -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * For the most active patch on the ocean, I sure had a helluva time finding a foursome. So far, this is the only one I've found. On August 31, 1985; Odessa, Pat, Ruby and Skip were active in the Western Pacific. No fives. None even close. If it happened, it was probably in the most unlikely season. The tropics do stuff like that all the time. Stay tuned for updates! -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: 1992 WPAC just squeaked in with four pissand storms, all 35 knots: Kent, Lois, Mark and Nina. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Oooh! Simultaneous major hurricanes! That's always fun. Nothing like a friendly thunder stealing contest. I'm burning with competitive desire. Some gruesome twosomes you overlooked:


 * Hurricane Dora and Hurricane Ethel: 18Z Sep 9 - 06Z Sep 10, 1964
 * Damn! Only one. Nice! Hard to slip it by you! Didn't check you real hard on the three hurricanes. I underestimate you. Gonna have to start pushing the dates back (not far, tracking begins to get a little hazy back there). By the way, 1964 WPac is the most active season on record, not 1961. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You mean in 1933? Yeah. 1926 had some fun too. It had three straight hurricanes active from 12Z on September 12 to 06Z on the 14th and two major hurricanes from 06Z on the 15th to 00Z on the 18th. It also had four storms active at once from 00Z on the 11th to 18Z on the 15th. That's almost five days! It nearly had it again, on September 21. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 19:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

1988 Atlantic hurricane season
I started adding the missing storms but it seems that TD7 and TD13 are in the wrong place. The dates given must be incorrect. Good kitty 20:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I was using MWR for that and the copy said TD7. At least there's a map including the depressions, so looking at it I would say it is really TD10 and Seven is Chris. The dates may still be wrong, but someone will get to that someday. Also I changed the name of that Unnamed storm to just Unnamed. It could also be TD13 or Tropical Storm Six, but not TS13. That is too confusing. I will eventually get new pictures there, as I have done for the hurricanes since 1986. Good kitty 03:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

1990's TD Eleven
Was a storm. Tropical Storm Josephine got screwed IMO. The real Josephine can be seen in its formative stages closer to Africa. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 03:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Problem with all this is that we're stuck with whatever data is left and more often than not, that's not going to be enough to prove whether or not it's a storm. What we can do is use the knowledge we have now to find hybrid storms that should have been called subtropical or tropical storms that were passed over because of a questionable structure. Some of these '90s storms have a chance though. Hell, I could be wrong. This TD could've just talked the talk and not walked the walk. Tropical Storm Ernesto in 2000 didn't look nearly as good as this storm. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 04:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow, I didn't know about that. It did look heavily sheared, sort of like Barry. There are storms missing from the archives that should have been named, even during the past ten years without a doubt there are some. I've made some changes in my personal archives that were based on multiple data I collected. 1982's Beryl is a hurricane in my records. I've added a tropical storm in 1994 and one in 2000. The 2006 subtropical storm in the north Pacific is in there and surprisingly well known Tropical Storm Pilar is rightfully designated. I've also added two in the Western Pacific (I do think the Pacific keeps it's secrets better than the Atlantic.) Three south Atlantic storms are in my archives, Catarina as a Category 2 hurricane. I've named the 1991 storm 'Bapoto', an African name that means "Born amist anger/quarelling". All of this proves that hurricane tracking is an inexact science. There's a lot of subjectivity in it. But I'm not sure it'd be quite as fun if there wasn't that gray area there. --  § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 05:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Tropical Storm Six: “Indignation” 30 September-04 October and Subtropical Storm Five: “Quick Draw”  29-30 August. In the West Pacific, I've got this little guy, hanging out south of Japan, and this guy up north, above the 30 and headed for the shadows. --  § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Not really. I won't just stick it in there because it looks good. I did do that once with the 1989 storm in the West Pacific. I have to be really impressed with the data I'm getting to do it. I usually like to have a professional organization suggesting its worthyness. Hence the HPC stuff. I did look at a storm in April of 1998 and TD Eleven in 1990 but I could say without a doubt that they should be in there. If you find one, let me know. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 02:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Am I Seeing Things?
What the hell just hit Italy? Look at this from just 18 hours ago. Look south of Sicily. Sure looks like a tropical cyclone to me. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 20:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * All Atlantic storms come off of Africa, but I'm not convinced it's not. But nor am I convinced it is. Just one of those things that leave you scratching your head. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Lorenzo Sandbox
Should i move this into a proper article or not. The link is on my userpage. Many thanks :) Seddon69 22:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Track map request
Sure, I'll see what I can do. --Ajm81 04:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done, it's available at Image:Florida hurricane (1900-1949) tracks.png. --Ajm81 04:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, how different it would be...
I was looking back at all the unnamed storms and seeing how different things would've been had they been named. Just a few examples (yes, these are the storms you think they are): Hurricane Wilma would've been Alpha (!!), Gilbert would've been Helene, Andrew would've been Bonnie (yikes!), Agnes becomes Betty, Flora becomes Ginny, Fifi would've been Ivy (!!), the last storm of the 1969 season would've been named Sadie, 1964 is completely f-ed (Cleo is Ethel, Dora is Florence, Hilda is Janet and Isbell is Katy), Hattie is Inga, Donna is Ethel (ahh!), Audrey is Bertha (it would appear missing storms isn't all that bad), 1954 got fun: Hazel is Irene and Alice Two is Katherine. How about that! How very different the record books would have looked but for a few slight oversights. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 01:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Now the thing you did over the summer was more reliant on assumptions. With mine, a lot more is definate. Had these storms been discovered, they would without question been named 'x'. Another fun idea I toyed with about a year or so ago was what if the modern six-list rotation (minus retirements) was applied to the pre-naming seasons? How would those seasons look? Would we get to some names we've not gotten to in modern times (by shear luck of the draw)? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually I picked random pre-1950 seasons. I wouldn't rename seasons that already have their own. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh boy, another reason to love the West Pacific: If 2005 had had as many storms as the 1964 WPac season, the most active in the history of the planet, the last storm of the season would have been named Sigma, leaving just six Greek letters unused! Now, in those days, storm intensities were overestimated by an average of 10-20 knots, so there were probably fewer than 39 storms, but still it doesn't get much better than that. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Still, even if you reduced the peak intensities of every storm by 10 knots, the season would only lose three storms; by 15 however, it would lose 6. It even at that, the 1964 season would still be among the top three most active seasons in history (1971 had 35, 1996 had 33, 1974 and 2004 had 32, our favorite season, 1997 had 31). By the way, I finally found another WPac season with four simultaneous storms, almost four hurricanes. In 1972; Phyllis, Rita, Susan and Tess were active at once. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 20:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Philly meetup #5
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2000 North India Cylone Season Article
I have created a sandbox for the 2000 season. Do i need to add to this before i put it into the public domain? Do i need to alter the other articles before hand? What do you think needs changing? Many Thank :-) Seddon69 19:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Pabuk as an STS
I've seen on this website that you follow JMA's opinions, so Pabuk (Chendeng) was a STS, but why didn't you change it? Pabuk had wind speeds similiar to Danas, so why not change it now if you can?Ryansit639 10:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Advice for new list
Hi. I'm creating a list of hurricanes in the Bahamas. It will be similiar to the lists of Florida hurricanes. I would appreciate some additional help for this future list. Firstly, the reference list wouldn't work when I added the third source. Can you fix this problem? Thanks. CVW (talk) 03:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

FL Main page proposal
You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination recently. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual content will resemble the current content at the featured content page. Such output would probably start at the bottom of the main page. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Old season articles
How did you find information about this one ? I'm not going to purchase articles for research, so I wonder if there's someplace else they can be accessed. Good kitty 00:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You could use the New York Times's public archive. It was recently opened in its most part, all the way back to the 1850's. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 18:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Storm in the Mediterranean


I'll let you decide.

That's a shot from the morning. Just thought I'd let ya know. I know you've given up on med storms, but wow. This one is kinda cool.

Storm2k thread Cycl  one1  (21:22-17-10-2007)  —Preceding comment was added at 21:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wonder if someone should email the NHC about it. I doubt it'll get noticed unless the people tell them about it. Cycl  one1  (23:50-17-10-2007)  —Preceding comment was added at 23:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tropical Storm Ivan (2004)
I uploaded three pictures to Commons. Unfortunately the last two have some weird squiggly effect going on. I don't know what's up with that. Good kitty 02:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Florida Hurricanes
I don't know if this was your goal or not, but I noticed that every list of Florida Hurricanes is an FL, so if there is nothing major missing, you could have an easy "Lists of Florida Hurricanes" Featured Topic there. -- Scorpion0422 12:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Dang it, Hink, you already got another FT, and I'm still trying to get enough time to work on Charley. :P Good job, though. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 05:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hatnotes and Marty
Actually I pointed at the incorrect section of the archive. The more correct section was this. However, point is it has been brought up on WPTC before. The problem is, WPTC is dead as a discussion venue...

You note that the edits to Marty break WPTC consistency. However, makes Marty consistent with Wikipedia as a whole. The solution is to fix all the bad hatnotes within WPTC, which takes time. The point is why do we need to disambiguate unambiguous titles? Irene '99 has zero connection to Irene '05, so why do we need link from '05 to '99?--Nilfanion (talk) 15:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh and I'll note it is more disruptive to make a change on dozens of articles than it is to one single article, discuss it there and get the solution there. Marty is an arbitrary choice, but better one than 50.--Nilfanion (talk) 15:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Bleh, sorry about my behaviour earlier. When you spend a lot of time cleaning up certain high quality edits you forget good practice... I know what you mean about the see also section. Having said that I don't think your solution is ideal, disambiguation pages really should not be linked to like that. Personally, I'm really not a fan of naming trivia and I know List of tropical cyclones named Alice (that you proposed in that old discussion) would have no chance on AFD. What I may have a go at is a navbar template for this stuff, offhand can you think of any name that has over 4 storm articles?--Nilfanion (talk) 21:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The other storm pages (which don't exist ;) ), or the disambig? The dab really should not be linked to unless it is needed for disambiguation purposes. So no, I don't think that solution is adequate (I'll explain why in greater detail if I see you on IRC). The relevant question I think is: what do Marty 1997 and Marty 2003 have in common? As far as I can tell, the only commonalities are the name, and that they were both tropical cyclones in the EPac. The name is only of relevance to TC-mad fools. Nomenclature to WPTC is what "in popular culture" is to Wikipedia - not really that significant. Is there any value to a link? Not really IMO.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My point, with Barry for example, Tropical Storm Barry (2001) is of (limited) interest to Barry 2007, but the page Hurricane Barry itself is not. We can debate which of the storms named Alice are relevant to the Hurricane Alice (December 1954), but to say that all 18 other storms are on the basis of their name alone is flawed. In the case of that storm, my "ideal" see also would have Alice1, Zeta and probably the other year-crossers.
 * As for the dab pages, if we have encyclopedic content on those pages not repeated in real articles (think SHem), it should be copied to the seasons. I'm getting worried about you Hink; have you forgotten about both WP:BOLD and WP:WEASEL? :P--Nilfanion (talk) 23:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't confuse disambiguation page a real article or a "list of" article. Their sole purpose is to help readers find the correct article, when using ambiguous search terms. An additional problem is that our dabs are truly awful stylistically, if they did their true role is more clear. If all storms with the same name are relevant enough to be linked to then they should be linked to directly, not via the dab. In the case of Barry this means giving links to all the other articles in the see also, not Hurricane Barry. To us a link to "Hurricane Barry" is a link to the disambiguation, but a link to Hurricane Barry on Hurricane Barry (1983) would be confusing to the reader: "I just read about Hurricane Barry; what is this a link to???". Links to Barry 1989, 1995, 2001 and 2007 would make sense to them and the elegant way to handle that is a navbar. (I'm not convinced of the value of these links at all, but that is the best approach IMO).
 * As an explanation of the point of dabs: If I (as a reader) enter "Hurricane Gordon" in the search bar I'm not after a list of storms named Gordon; but one of the specific hurricanes. Which? The info on the dab page is sufficient to tell me which link I want to follow. However if I type "Hurricane Gordon (2006)" I'll end up at that storm, and I'm hardly looking for the storm in 1994 so I don't need a hatnote to take me to the 'correct' article. On the other hand if I look for "Hurricane Katrina", the site will take me to Hurricane Katrina; which is blatantly the primary topic. It is conceivable that I am looking for info on 1981's Katrina. Therefore the hatnote will enable me to find the article I want, without having to read 100kb of text I'm not interested in to find a link that may or may not be there.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * IAR is something to invoke when common sense is different to the rules. Many things about WPTC dabs suck. I'll bring WikiProject Disambiguation into this, this is not a WPTC issue really and the discussion needs more input as this is not going anywhere with just two. The only concern I have is about lost encyclopedic content; which is the result of the appalling SHem season articles. The issue about if same name = these storms are relevant to one another can go to WPTC.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Peter (2003)
I'm trying to do some verification of the sources, but the first cite here is to a page by DR - but links to a TWD. I've changed that to cite reqs for now - can you fix?--Nilfanion (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Noel Images
Hey I noticed you found the stuff I uploaded to Commons. I found lots of stuff here: and. I've been trying to make a habit of saving this stuff before its gone for good, so you might want to check those out if you see anything you want too. The new University of Wisconsin site (I think it is new since I don't remember it from before) will capture animations for you in better resolutions. Good kitty 18:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

A question
Hey, sorry to bother you. I just wanted to ask how I become a member of Tropical cyclone Wikiproject or WikiProject Meteorology and Weather Events. Thanks Juliancolton 14:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

An Anon's Message
Can you please create those pages for me? --141.149.60.121 22:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Dog (1950)
Time to add featured article to another page in namespace 0... I'll let the author do that, though. Congrats! Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 17:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

LOTD proposal
You have nominated a recent WP:FLC. There have been two recent proposals to begin a List of the Day feature on the main page, which have both received majorities but have not been approved as overwhelming support sufficient for the main page. WP:LOTDP is a new proposal to try to get the ball rolling based on the original proposal. Voice your thoughts on its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

A question #2
What makes you so super good at making FA's? No matter how hard I try, i just can't fiqure it out. Juliancolton 20:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that advice on how to write better articles. How many photos would you think would be a good amount for List of New York hurricanes or a similar article? Juliancolton 19:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, just some questions about some Cyclone data.
I notice that when I try to edit some Australian data for Cyclones, if I change the Category to the Australian one, it still links back to the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale.

Is there a way I can fix this so that it links to the Australian Scale, rather than the Saffir-Simpson one, because there are some major inconsistencies with this (Like Cyclone Erica showing as 115 sustained 1-min-winds, but showing as a SS Cat 5, which it isn't.

Any response is appreciated. Metamorphazone 07:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I should clarify that a bit more. This is in the pages that show all the Cyclones for the season, and not the individual Cyclone pages (since I know it is possible in those ones). Metamorphazone 07:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Jeanne (1980)
I recently completed this article. Currently, it has not been reviewed and rated. I would appreciate your help. Thanks in advance. Do you think it looks good? CVW (Talk) 02:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Todo

 * First sentence - it'd be great if there was a more interesting start to the article. Perhaps the record mentioned in the second paragraph of the lede. Or, for something generic, perhaps something like "Hurricane Jeanne was a moderate hurricane that intensified and dissipated in the Gulf of Mexico without making landfall" (which is a rare event, as hinted by the NHC in its report on Henri in 1979). I added your sentence to the lede's start. I also added the interesting fact (with sources) to the impact section. "Jeanne was one of only four hurricanes in the 20th century that formed and dissipated in the Gulf of Mexico without making landfall; the others were Laurie of 1969,[3] Henri of 1979,[12] and Alberto of 1982.[3]"
 * More Wikilinks are needed. Specifically, all dates should be linked for preference issues. However, as that might get a bit tedious, so if you can avoid any dates they should be removed. Specifically, all of the dates in the lede aren't terribly useful. Also, when linking places, the state should be linked as well, unless that state is implied. The dates are linked. Check the page bottom.
 * Rounding units - if the first unit is divisible by 5 or 10, it generally means it was rounded, so the converted figure should also be rounded. Also, a few units do not have a metric conversion. I fixed that issue.
 * Sentence structure - there are some redundant sentences. For example, there isn't a need to mention that thousands were evacuated from oil rigs, then in the next clause clarify that at least 3,000 were evacuated. That could be combined to something like "At least 3,000 workers were removed from oil rigs." Try combining some other sentences for better flow. I fixed that issue. "3,000 workers evacuated their oil rigs because of Jeanne's high waves.[4][5]"
 * Word choice - there are a few minor examples of word awkwardness. For example, "Ships were surprised". Ships being caught off guard, or being unprepared for the ferocity of the storm, are possible solutions, as the current writing implies the ships themselves were actually surprised ;) Also, possessives should (IMO) probably not be used for storm names. I fixed that issue. "Elsewhere, several ships were caught off guard by Jeanne's late arrival."
 * Info - is there any more info? Ideally, is there any info about damage or flooding for Key West? One would think that the rainfall record would cause some damage, or was there not much printed in the newspapers? The HPC rainfall map would be a good addition for the impact section. The lede says that the hurricane caused beach erosion in Texas, but the article never sources that. This site mentions some coastal flooding. Also, it's probably not needed to mention that it was on the naming list in 1986 and 1992, but mentioning the 1998 storm and that it was retired in 2004 might be good additions. Well, I provided information on the flooding's impact in Key West. "Schools and most businesses were closed, while flights were grounded at Key West International Airport; authorities urged residents to stay home. Telephone and power services were cut to some areas of the city.[10]" Do you want further information?

Overall, thanks for the advice. Do you think the improvements are better? CVW (Talk) 05:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed those issues. I linked the lede dates. I clarified that Jeanne attained hurricane status in the Gulf of Mexico without making landfall. I rounded those conversions. Do you think the article meets the standards for GA status? Please feel free to offer additional recommendations. CVW (Talk) 02:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
I am contacting individuals in the order of the number of featured lists that they had created by Novemeber 10, 2007. You are among those who have created the most. So you are among the first. There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 16:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sidr remembrance
I left this message at the top of my userpage, in case you'd like to do the same:  God bless the victims of Cyclone Sidr    Christian or Jewish, Muslim or Buddhist; pray with me  I now plan to do this with all storms that kill over 1,000 people if I can remember. I feel it's the best tribute I can give, asthetically. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You've got to understand that stations like CNN and FoxNews are US stations that broadcast international news for Americans. TV watchers in that region should rely on Indian news stations. In Bangladesh, since many people are so poor and can't afford a TV, the government needs to support putting TVs in public establishments like shops and restaurants so customers could see news on the storm. Newspapers need to do their part, too. Another thing they could do is put public broadcast systems in the cities; speakers that would bring news of the storm to their ears. In Bangladesh, I believe, only these types of active methods would help. One need not look far from home to see just how much poverty affects proper warnings. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Waited too late for evacuations. Remind you of something? -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Southeast Pacific
Wow! Look how far east this is! 135W! Perhaps that part of the world is not as barren as we thought. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 21:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I confess, I'm expanding my archives to the south Pacific. I noticed the longitude on JTWC's track map and went, "Dude!" By the way, speaking of the Southern Hemisphere, Cyclone Bongwe has company: look in the bottom righthand corner of this picture. Don't nobody's advisin' on that. Could somebody please 'splain this to me. --  § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 23:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

sorry
I am very sorry, but i belive this is true information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.134.33.92 (talk) 00:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Non-free use disputed for Image:Danielle_Newspaper.gif
Thanks for uploading Image:Danielle_Newspaper.gif. Unfortunately, I think that you have not provided a proper rationale for using this image under "fair use". Please read the instructions at Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. Note that the image description page must include the exact name of every article the image is used in and a separate rationale for each.

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Your GA nomination of Tropical Storm Marco (1990)
The article Tropical Storm Marco (1990) you nominated as a good article has passed, see Talk:Tropical Storm Marco (1990) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! R udget talk 16:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. :) Sorry about the wait for the review. R udget talk 16:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see you have another one at GAN aswell. I'll review that while I'm at it. R udget talk 16:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. I couldn't get the notification template in time. Best, R udget talk 17:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Question
If you ever get a chance, would you like to rework some of the lede for the 1988 AHS article? I just find that really hard to write because I prefer to work on the individual sections. It will probably be a while before I finish anyway, even though there are a couple of sections that have to be written. Good kitty (talk) 21:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Cat. 4 landfall table
Could you design a Landfall table for my List of Category 4 Atlantic hurricanes table, or if not, could you suggest someone who can? I still don't quite understand all of that table coad yet. Juliancolton (talk) 22:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Spiffier triple crown, new awards available
Hi, I've been sprucing up the triple crown awards. Here's the new version of the imperial triple crown jewels you've already earned. Feel free to replace your old one with this if you like the new version better. I've also introduced two new triple crown awards for editors who've done a lot of triple crown work: the Napoleonic and Alexander the Great edition awards. If you're active in a WikiProject, check out the new offer for custom WikiProject triple crowns. I'll make those upon request if five or more editors qualify. See User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle for more information. Thanks for your hard work, and cheers! Durova Charge! 22:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Reality check
I am sorry if I have caused any inconvinience to you or any other users. I will certanly do my best at improving my writing skills as well. 14:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Juliancolton (talk)

1991 Bangladesh cyclone
I've been asked this by a couple people, and I figured I'd ask you since you added it, but do you know where the name "Gorky" came from? The link is dead and none of the other links I've found mention where the name came from at all. I'm actually not sure if we should include it as systems in the basin weren't officially named at the time. --Core<font color="#457541">desat 17:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, never mind, I saw some of the sources and I think I'll leave it in. --Core<font color="#457541">desat 00:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Undergraduate Thesis
Hi Hurricanehink, I sent you an e-mail on Tuesday about an interview for my thesis. Let me know if you can participate--I'd love to talk with you! Jkomoros (talk) 17:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

LOTD under way
Thanks for submitting a list to WP:LOTD. January nominations are closed and February nominations are open. The January nominee commenting has begun. Feel free to participate in the commentary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 16:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The current state of WP:LOTD is puzzling me. No one who has nominated an article has voted.  If I had made voting mandatory by nominators, would you have still nominated your articles?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:24, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: List of Pacific hurricanes
Thanks for the complement. I still have to add more things, like month intensities for cPac, extremes of latitude/longitude etc, unusual landfalls, etc.

I based the headings on List of Atlantic hurricanes. List of Atlantic hurricane records redirects to that page, so any consensus for the Pacific list should probably be applied to that one too.

Pacific hurricane records is more or less a subset of notable Pacific hurricanes. For example, the deadliest Pacific hurricane would appear in both pages: list of Pacific hurricane records because it is the deadliest, and list of Pacific hurricanes because it killed more than the inclusion cutoff (100 deaths). Basically, it doesn't really matter whether you were killed by Hurricane Pauline or Hurricane Ismael; you're dead either way. Similar for other records.

On the other hand, a list of Pacific hurricane records could have detailed stats like the rainiest/deadliest/most intense/etc. Pacific tropical cyclone in (X meaning Mexican states, countries, Hawaiian Islands etc).

As for including "notable" in the name, while I do agree that notable is subjective, it isn't mis-titled like it is now. The current title implies that every Pacific hurricane that ever existed and is known was listed, sort of like list of named tropical cyclones, but ePac/cPac only and including unnamed ones. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Winter Storms
Would you consider doing some work towards winter storm articles? I am amazed at how good your work on hurricane articles, and some of the winter storm articles such as December 2007 North American ice storm are in need of major work, and you would be able to make them better. Juliancolton (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

One up...
Read the text on this page, particularly the last point... and also keep an eye on the page, ok? Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 06:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure I understood why they didn't want you to comment on it... I'm afraid it went over my head, lol. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 07:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. Heh. Well, if you're your usual self, I don't mind you commenting there. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 07:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, school's first, I'll be the first to say that. Good luck with that! Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 07:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * And also; does Hello's nom of Danny 97 count for the challenge too? ;) Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 07:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Pre-Meiji period: Use of Japanese era name in identifying disastrous events
First: please accept my regrets for the inadevertent vandalism to your user page -- just a mistake. Sorry. Won't happen again.

Would you consider making a contribution to an exchange of views at either of the following:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disaster management
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan

As you may know, WikiProject Disaster management came up with entirely reasonable guidelines for naming articles about earthquakes, fires, typhoons, etc. However, the < >< < > format leaves no opportunity for conventional nengō which have been used in Japan since the eighth century (701-1945) -- as in "the Great Fire of Meireki" (1657) or for "the Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji" (1707).

In a purely intellectual sense, I do look forward to discovering how this exchange of views will develop; but I also have an ulterior motive. I hope to learn something about how better to argue in favor of a non-standard exception to conventional, consensus-driven, and ordinarily helpful wiki-standards such as this one. In my view, there does need to be some modest variation in the conventional paradigms for historical terms which have evolved in non-Western cultures -- no less in Wikipedia than elsewhere. I'm persuaded that, at least in the context of Japanese history before the reign of Emperor Meiji (1868-1912), some non-standard variations seem essential; but I'm not sure how best to present my reasoning to those who don't already agree with me. I know these first steps are inevitably awkward; but there you have it.

The newly-created 1703 Genroku earthquake article pushed just the right buttons for me. Obviously, these are questions that I'd been pondering for some time; and this became a convenient opportunity to move forward in a process of building a new kind of evolving consensus. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 18:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

List of North Carolina Hurricanes
I saw that you plan to make List of North Carolina hurricanes a series, similar to Florida hurricanes. If you want, I can work on the next one, because I am looking for a major project to keep me busy in between the minor stuff. If you would rather do it yourself, that is fine too. Juliancolton (talk) 21:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I am going working on those articles. I guess I should start working on them. And I do think I will put Cat. 4 Hurricanes up for FLC. Juliancolton (talk) 22:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Does an FL count for you to write something? Juliancolton (talk) 01:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Is that better? Juliancolton (talk) 01:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, I can't figure out the notice board. How do you do that? Juliancolton (talk) 01:53, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Do you support it being an FL? Juliancolton (talk) 02:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Great. I am happy to hear any suggestions for the article. Juliancolton (talk) 02:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Hurricane Noel (2007) Revisions
As a new user of editing Wikipedia, was your comment left on my discussion a good thing, bad thing, or a threat? I revised this page with 147 people who died because 151 is not accurate. If you want to contradict that go to Weather.com and look at the summary of all the 2007 Atlantic Hurricane Season. I look forward to reading your thoughts and concerns. (71.204.47.67 (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC))

The changing of the death toll was merely based upon my source. It was in no way attempting to vandilize the article. Thank you for your meassage. (71.204.47.67 (talk) 17:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC))

My pick is...
My pick is...Effects of Hurricane Andrew in Florida, good luck! :D Hello32020 (talk) 19:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

FAR for Meteorological history of Hurricane Ivan
Meteorological history of Hurricane Ivan has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--Nilfanion (talk) 01:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Removed, per WP:FAR instructions. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

FYI

 * FAC discussion. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the need to comment; just wanted to make sure you were aware of the fuss. I just wish all the folks in there complaining about FACs being closed with little review will ... um ... review.  Thanks for the good wishes.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 05:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

NAD+ review
Hi there, thanks a lot for the review. I made some changes to cover the points you raised, can you take another look and see if they cover your concerns? Thanks Tim Vickers (talk) 06:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

WPTC Active Members
I am actually, I just haven't found the time to until recently and I also have been busy maintaining a couple of the desert-related articles that are consistently vandalized and without much help from others. Part of the problem with helping out with WTCP is the fact that I am unsure of what "needs" to get done as opposed to non-priorities (since there is so much). If you could show me what is needed to get done or where exactly I can find it, I can try to help out as soon as I have the free time (which is likely quite a bit in between semesters. Thanks. <i style="color:green;">The great kawa</i> (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Hola chico
I've always been around, I just haven't really had the time to take up big projects. I've spent most of my edits in musicy stuff (see contribs, and note my elaborate sub-userpage). I think I understand what your challenge is, but does what your asking actually make gramatical sense? lol. Oh well. Why did Nilfanion and NSLE/Chacor leave the project? I remember them very well. hmmm... icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 19:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ballin'. icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 20:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing I gotta do a Hurricane-related article. hehe. And if I won I'd have to tell you to do a hurricane-related article. Cuz i would love to get My Chemical Romance-something to featured article article status. lol. icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 20:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think about which article to do. I gotta do homework (ugh, still in middle school :[ ), but I should have an article by tonight. Speaking of homework, what's a sentence i could use with the word hierarchy? or are u not gonna help me, eh?? jk jkicelandic hur [[User: Icelandic Hurricane/Music|ric ane #12(talk) 20:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Pardon my sig, it was in the changing phase. icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 20:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * tx. but my teachers despise wikipedia. lol. hmmm... icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 20:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That was beautiful. *wipes away tear* brbicelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 20:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Tropical storms
Thanks for the welcome! At the moment, I'm not exactly sure where I'd fit in with the project. I joined a while ago because I was working on a number of tropical storm related articles...saw a link to the project...and I joined! We always need someone to go through and do copy editing, so I think I'm going to do stuff related to that and go from there.

Thanks again for the welcome! --Son (talk) 20:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! I'll get on that!  --Son (talk) 20:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

WPTC Activity
Hey, I haven't had as much free time for everyday stuff as I used to, but I still idle on the chat room and such... (And will when I get the computers back online... :) ) But whenever there's stuff that needs attention, feel free to poke me... :) I haven't really kept up on how things have changed over the past few months... —AySz88\<font color="#FF9966">^ <font color="#FF6633">- <font color="#FF3300">^ 20:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Philly meetup 6
I'm working on planning the sixth Philadelphia meetup, and I'm looking for ideas and votes about the place and location. Since you RSVP'd for the last one I thought you might like to weigh in. Thanks, and I hope to see you there! -- Te xa sD ex  &#9733;  22:49, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Juliancolton
Hi. At times it seems that you are burdened by my contibutions. As to not annoy any more users, I am considering leaving the project. Would this be best for the project, or should I just get more practice? Juliancolton (talk) 17:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Very well then. How do I get to the how to write a better article page? Juliancolton (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

IRC
I just did that, still dosn't work. I don't know what is wrong with the connection. Juliancolton (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Does it show that I am on it? Juliancolton (talk) 22:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Interesting. Juliancolton (talk) 22:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I don't see any. Juliancolton (talk) 23:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I got it to work. I tried /reconnect again, and it came up. Thanks for helping me work it. Juliancolton (talk) 13:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I am a Ninja Warrior Fan
I dont post nonsense.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.108.162.38 (talk) 21:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

LOTD congratulations
Congratulations!!! List of Florida hurricanes has been chosen in the inaugural class of January 2008 LOTDs. I hope you will continue to participate in the WP:LOTD process. If you have a date preference get back to me by the end of 2007-12-23 UTC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 06:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Titoxd
Has Tito ever been gone this long? Worried. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 14:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Winter storms
There is a discussion started by User:Juliancolton at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Meteorology about a proposed/possible new WikiProject called WikiProject Winter storms. Feel free to voice your opinion on the proposal.-- JForget 01:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

It has been changed, as you reqested. Can you consider joining, because it is close to tropical. :) Juliancolton (talk) 03:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Juliancolton
I'm def. not an old hand with RFA's, but I thought that pages had to be confirmed by the admin candidate to be transcluded to WP:RFA. This one doesn't appear to be signed. I really could be missing something here, but something looks wrong to me. Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 20:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm going to remove the RFA and post to the project talk page. Darkspots (talk) 20:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, i wasn't planning on nominating myself for adminship just yet, I was just seeing what it would look like, and then do it in a year or so. BTW, why haven't you been nominated? 69.121.244.128 (talk) 21:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Yea, that's me. I must have clicked on log out. And I thought it was my userbox, but I must have switched over to mainspace. Sorry. :( Juliancolton (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


 * i am going for adminship coaching. In the event that I do get to where my coach believes I am good enough to be an admin, will you still oppose? Juliancolton (talk) 20:09, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Juliancolton (talk) 22:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

The Atlantic has done it again!
The Western Pacific has always kept itself a league above everyone else. 2005 was the biggest slap in the face WPac had ever had (and still is). If that basin does not get a Category 5 hurricane within the next 5 days, the Atlantic (which has the shortest season of any of the World's basins) will have issued another. STY Sepat is the WPac's lone Category 5 this year. This would mark just the sixth time in the past 60 years that the Atlantic has had more Cat 5's than the Pacific ('47,'50,'60,'77,and '05 being the others) and just the third time the Atlantic had to do it with more than one storm ('60 and '05 and 1960 is questionable). The Atlantic has tied on five other occations (six IMO): '51,'69,'80,'88, and '98. 1969 came within 2 storms of stealing 2005's thunder as its 18 storms fell just short of WPac's 19. 2005 matched the rest of the World's Category 5's in just four months. Hurricane Anita remains the only Atlantic Cat 5 to stand alone as it was the only storm to reach that intensity in 1977. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 23:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Some things however cannot be impugned. The 1997 Western Pacific season was the greatest season of all time. Period. 39 storms in 1964 is obscene. If 2005 had had that many, the final storm would've been named Sigma! But it is important to know that it's not untouchable. Other basins that have outdone WPac in terms of Cat 5s include the Eastern Pacific in 1994 and the Southern Pacific in 1998. The Eastern Pacific (with CPac's help to fix the size differential) has come within three of besting the West Side (1983). In the past half century, the most active year worldwide was 1992, with 101 storms (oddly this was before the start of the 'active cycle' in 1995). The least active year was 1977 (71). 1974 appears to be the only year since 1960 that no Cat 5's formed worldwide. 1997 had the most, with 12. Anything else you want to know? ;) -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 18:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Another Question :)
Hey, when you see an article, good or bad, what are the first things you do to improve it? I just want to know because I am still building my article improving abilities. Juliancolton (talk) 00:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * So how do you tell if the storm history (or any part of the article) is bad? Juliancolton (talk) 01:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * So I should not link a storm to it's dab? Juliancolton (talk) 02:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. And I am working on a completely new List of New York hurricanes, here. Am I off to a good start? I plan on making all of the refs to cite web when the it's done. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 14:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, that will get done. Do you know of any websites or books that have info in NY hurricanes? Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 22:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I forgot about that. And good job on Danny '06! Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 22:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I got off the IRC. My computer crashed. I will get back on soon. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 02:26, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I guess I am getting ahead of myself again. :) Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 14:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * One more thing-in NY hurricanes, do I put the entire date includinge the day, or should I just wrtie in the month? Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 16:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Writing the entire date is very hard to find. DO I put the date based on when the storm passed through, or when it cause the greatest effects? Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 16:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! How long doe it usually take you to wrtie a list of X hurricanes? Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 16:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

FAC
Hi. Hope you are reasonably happy with the changes I prompted you to make ;-). I wonder if you'd cast an eye over Sid Barnes and comment at its FAC? Hopefully, you know nothing about cricket - the article's had plenty of attention from experts, but I'm hopeful it strikes the right balance for those who don't know about it as well (eg jargon wikilinked in first instance, etc). --Dweller (talk) 10:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll get on to those asap. --Dweller (talk) 19:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Sid Barnes
Thanks for your comments at the FAC. We've made a number of improvements as a result. I've queried a couple of points you raise. Happy to continue discussing them (especially the non breaking spaces) but feel free at any time to support it as an FA quality article, --Dweller (talk) 12:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks for clarifying. WP:LEAD says 3 parags is fine - if anything, a bit short for this length of article! --Dweller (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * done now, I think. Thanks. Didn't know about that. --Dweller (talk) 11:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

You should probably know this
If you're doing Daniel in 2006, you should probably know that User:Mitchazenia/Hurricane Daniel (2006) also exists. I can ask an admin to merge them so as to simplify things.

Also, I'm gonna tell Mitchazenia about this now. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 05:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Now that's interesting...
More hurricanes made landfall in the US in the first half of the 20th Century (98) than the 2nd half (78). Even with all the storms that have hit since 2000, the 2nd half still falls short (95). -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 22:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I've been trying to improve the historical seasonal articles by adding a secton for each storm, but it's been slow going. I'm enjoying the conversation. That's what I was logging in to do just now but I noticed your response. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 02:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I actually haven't done much in a while. I added a season in the '30s but haven't done another one until hopefully today. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 03:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:GA reviewing
Well, and I am telling the truth here, when I was reviewing it, my computer shut down or did something weird, and I could not finish the process. I do know that it was not completed, though. And, I did take into acount the criteria for GA. When I said "it's Hink's writing", that was just for show. I did in fact read it, and saw nothing wrong. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 18:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, my computer is messed up. I can't help that. Anyway, I will stay away from now on. I just wish there was something that I can do that I wouldn't screw up. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 21:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Or until a Hypercane hits. :) Anyway, how am I doing on Fay? I don't know weather to use just inches, or inches and mm in rainfall totals. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 21:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That does help. Juliancolton (talk) ( Happy New Year! ) 21:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

ST in the eastern Atlantic
There's a better than even chance they'll be adding the system in as an unnamed ST after the fact...found that out yesterday. Its central pressure was at least 1004 hPa as of last night. It would be a shame for them not to recognize this system, when Andrea, Barry, and Jerry were recognized as sub/tropical cyclones with significantly worse satellite signatures. The IR temps of the thunderstorms northeast/east of the center of this cyclone dropped down to -70C, and the system was non-frontal, for 2-3 days. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)