User talk:Hurricanehink/Archive 17

Goodbye...
I doubt you'll be back on here to see this, but good luck in the real world. We all wish you the best. Bye hink!! VX! 03:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto. Come back soon.  Until It Sleeps   03:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Good luck IRL, and remember, if you ever feel the need to write about tropical cyclones at 2 am, we'll always have an edit window open for you. Thanks for all the work you've done here, and for helping me along the way. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  03:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * come back soon. We'll really, really miss you man. :( Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  03:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, good luck in your future plans. It's a shame that you're leaving, one of Wikipedia's all-time greats. Of course, the edit window will always be there should you want to come back. Wizardman  03:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Good luck with your music career IRL! It's not going to be the same without you, especially since you've been guiding me the entire time I've been editing and I thank you for that. Hope you get the enthusiasm for writing on wikipedia again. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 03:50, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, that was unexpected, although like I told you, your life and your career come first. This certainly reminds me about Antandrus's second maxim, though that doesn't change that I wish you'd stick around some more after you recharge your batteries. In any case, best of luck in everything, my friend, and if you need anything, you know there's Special:Emailuser/Titoxd and IRC, so come around every once in a while. Take care of anything that needs to be taken care of, and if there's extra time, come visit us. Cheers, Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 07:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Good luck and I hope you visit us during your free time. Thanks for helping me these past few months. Cheers. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 15:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

BTW, if you see this, take a look at WP:FCDW/WBFAN2008. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know I've already had a goodbye party with you, but I can't resist the opportunity to say "Have fun!" one last time! NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 03:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I hope you change your mind. We'll keep your seat warm for you if you do. Raul654 (talk) 09:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry to see you leave. We're all thankful for all of the hard work you've done here on Wikipedia, and very sad to see you go. Good luck with your real-life plans, and best wishes, ~ A H  1 (TCU) 20:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Jack Kemp
I am not sure why you said what you did about the FAC, but I have responded.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hurricanehink has left Wikipedia. It's pretty obvious considering the big ol' template at the top of this page. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  21:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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A barnstar for all your efforts
Even though you're gone, I saw this barnstar, and felt it was appropriate.

Welcome back!
Great to see you're back, Hink! :D &rarr; Dyl @  n  620  20:07, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is boring with out you! Glad to see you back. -- Yue of the North 20:45, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Question about leaving WPTC project
What, in your mind, is problematic with the project nowadays? It would be good to know. Consider it an exit interview. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 20:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I share similar concerns...and always have. For some reason, people would rather create new articles rather than improve ones which have already been written.  This seems to be true throughout the met and tc projects.  Of course, this means that the fish storms are getting new articles created for them, which then go cleanly up the ladder to FA.  For a while, I was improving retired storms to GA, but it didn't seem like anyone else was, so I dropped it.  With the season articles, I did get inspired by others who were improving season articles late last year, and have now upgraded 8 of them to GA, but recently stopped as there are more fundamental articles to met to improve.  There are articles which have needed improvement for years, like low-pressure area.  I don't know how to encourage others to do what I've been doing, unfortunately, but that's ultimately what the project needs to do...improve articles already created to higher classes.  So, we agree, and as a project, this does need to be discussed.  Thanks for the feedback.  Thegreatdr (talk) 23:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * FAs take significantly more time and energy than the typical GA, especially for an article with a broader reach than the Tropical Cyclone XX (YEAR) articles. I eventually plan to send the articles I have passed through GA into FAC, but I'd like to improve most (if not all) of the articles I've significantly edited over the past three years to GA first, so it will be a while before I start FACing around.  The TC FAC was draining, and I can imagine precipitation (meteorology) and weather being equally taxing.  It's a shame the article improvement drive shut down a year ago.  Someone proposed weather should be added into the AID a few months ago in order to get it to FA, which I just noticed.  We could have then fed vital articles from the TC and met project through there, to help out with their promotion.  Thegreatdr (talk) 02:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

heh
Nice surprise to welcome you back to Wikipedia, eh? Today's featured article/March 4, 2009 –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  04:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back
It's great that you've returned! Welcome back. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 02:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

W00tage
It's good to see you back. And yeah, remember what I said: have fun in here, don't stress out about silly stuff. It's just a Freaking Website™. That's said, Sandy will be pleased to hear the news.. :) Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 06:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Hurricane
I just noticed this one was fully protected. It's a bit overdone since this one really needs an overhaul. I just adapted it a few months ago so that it would work with storms in other basins but I never finished the job. Please change it to semi-protected so that others can continue to work on it. Potapych (talk) 13:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  13:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Subtropical cyclone
See if you approve of the changes made to the article in the last half hour. It appears they still use the older definition in the northeast Pacific, and to some degree, the northern Indian ocean. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Daniel
Done, but you need to fix the last part of the lead. Dissipation came before it reached the islands. The source mentions a remnant circulation passing below them, but you can see from the map where HURDAT ends and the cyclone dissipates. Potapych (talk) 15:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Hurricanehink's Day!

 * No problem. Nice to see that you're back again.  bibliomaniac 1  5  04:05, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Your thoughts are needed
Once more the debate about date formatting in the Australian cyclone season articles has resurfaced. User:Bidgee has already brought this up at []. Before this gets out of hand yet again, I would like for you to put your thoughts into whether the Australian cyclone articles should have the australian date format (Day-Month i.e. 4 March) or the US date format (Month-Day i.e. March 4). Thanks, Cyclonebiskit 19:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Source for reliable climate statistics
Hi Hurricanehink. I'm looking for a reliable source for climate statistics, and thought you might be able to help. I used Weatherbase.com for weather data for Hillsboro, Oregon, but the RS question has arisen at FAC. I'm hoping that you might be able to suggest a source that clearly meets the RS requirements. Thanks in advance for any advice. Finetooth (talk) 17:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Problem solved. The Weather Channel is an acceptable source for the kind of city data I needed. Finetooth (talk) 19:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm saving this useful link. I ran a quick check just now to see how the NWS data compare to the Weather Channel data, and the mean maximums rounded to the nearest whole number are identical. This is reassuring. Finetooth (talk) 20:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Re: IRC
Sorry, I've been a bit busy in other cross-wiki channels the past few days. I'll be over there shortly. –Juliancolton Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * come on IRC ASAP so we can disscuss your concerns over the Aus region Jason Rees (talk) 19:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Gilma, Olivia, and Rosa
I have actually found some sources for Rosa and Gilma. You can say in both articles that light rain fell in Mexico. for Olivia you can say that the remnants merged with Norman and caused minor damage in Mexico. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox

Tropical cyclones left out of the database
I was wondering, can you show me any systems that look suspect? I've looked at pictures of the September 12,1992 storm, and I believe that it was a hurricane. John Hope said something about it when it happened. The CHC mentions two possible storms in the 2002 season, that brushed Newfoundland. There was one also in 1996, that looked as though it was a full bird TS that passed off of Newfoundland as well.Shearwater912 (talk) 14:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)Shearwater912

how do you join the Wikiproject?
How do I join? It says that I have to be invited. It looks really cool, and I think I would be an awesome addition.Shearwater912 (talk) 20:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Shearwater912

I've added a list of cyclones I've experienced
It's on my user page.Shearwater912 (talk) 02:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)Shearwater912

friction over which date format to use
Hurricane, just following up on your comment at the poll, where was the article in which there was a spat? I'd like to see whether the MOSNUM rules don't clearly cover it. Tony  (talk)  08:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * But under the system you've voted for at the RfC, one or the other format would have to be selected for tagging at the top as default for 99.99% of the readers (i.e., all but WPians who select a date pref.). The selection would still have to be negotiated among the editors; yet the prevention of disputes over which format to use (which I believe are very rare) is the reason you are supporting date autoformatting.  Tony   (talk)  15:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy April Fool's Day
For you, HurricaneCraze32 : <font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat  April Fools! 10:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

1991 Bangladesh cyclone
PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE PAGE OF -- BANGLADESH CYCLONE OF 1991 BECAUSE I COPIED ALL THE STUFF FROM IT AND MY TEACHER SAYS THAT ITS NOT REFERENCABLE. SO I DELEATED THAT AND WROTE MY OWN. SO PLEASE DO NOT ESIT THAT. I WILL CHANGE EVERYRING AFTER 2 DAYS. SO HOPE U UNDERSTAND ME AND HOPE ANYBODY WONT CHANGE THAT TILL 2 DAYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amanuppal0 (talk • contribs)

Hey
I'm not sure why you left IRC so hastily, but since we were in the middle of a conversation (and you're still editing), could you rejoin? I'd appreciate it. Thanks, – Juliancolton  | Talk 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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FAC for Tingting
Thanks for the comprehensive review (and not opposing :P). I think I've addressed most of your comments, save a few which I replied to. Cyclonebiskit 15:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back...
I guess I missed you returning, good to see you back. (Even if it does mean I'm going to lag farther behind on the list...) Ealdgyth - Talk 02:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Timeline
Thanks for popping in. Unfortunately, I'm becoming easily distracted, so I haven't worked on the timeline in a few days, but I hope to get back to it soon. Regarding any "grandiose plans"; I don't plan on any featured topics or featured articles, but I think I have myself a modus operandi as far as the mainspace is concerned: hacking away at the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific hurricane season timelines to make them featured lists, as well as creating my own timelines (such as the one that's currently in the workshop). Although, I will be busy with other things, i.e. school, WP:ACC (which I hope to get back to soon), and my new adoptee. See you round!

One last thing: I read about your recent dispute with OR; I'm on your side (if you haven't figured out already from my !vote on his recent RfA). :) --Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign) 22:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Tipping one's hat in respect...and other things
Aaahahahahaaaa... too much, dear. Can't just stop laughing. This has just fixed an otherwise very ugly day for me. Hugs to both Durova and you. Aditya (talk • contribs) 10:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Erick FAR
Why did you send Erick to FAR? As I said on the IRC, just let every storm (post 2000) have it own article. They will be less drama and nights like last night (where people call each other liars) on the IRC if we allow every storm since 2000 to have an article (including Chris and Kevin). I suggest withdrawing your FAR for Erick as it makes me and JC feel more annoyed. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox
 * I'm not annoyed at all; despite my appearance, I can be reasonable. [[Image:718smiley.svg|20px]] – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Erick
What was that? Even agreed that many of the sources are independent; stop pushing your POV. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind I merely stated how hurricane-related information is created and spread. Any conclusions you all reach from that paragraph are yours to make.  I avoided saying anything like "I support bugsbunny" in the comment specifically since I remain unclear concerning wikipedia's notability, and exactly what it means.  I guess this means I'm not a wikidragon.  hehehe  Thegreatdr (talk) 16:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * True indeed. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Given that the discussion is over notability, which some people agree with, yes, it certainly should stay up. That's hardly pushing my POV. It's putting a template up while this discussion is ongoing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Notable vs Special
You stated that if every named storm is following something then it is not special and therefore not notable. That is actually the opposite - every peer in England is notable even without anything extra based on their status. This is convention of important. Special means nothing. Notability is how widely known or necessary something is. They can be bland and boring, but still notable. All named storms after 1998 have been used in Global Warming research, which is why NOAA, NASA, Colorado State, newspapers, etc. pay such attention to each storm. Even the weak hurricanes mean something in the data and prove/disprove if Global Warming is affecting the climate. People will look up the data and it will matter, as "named storms" mean something whereas total storms do not. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding WPTC article plans
Since you seem to be interested, I'll let ya know. :) Work is still slow on the 1996 AHS timeline, but once it's an FL, I'm interested in getting 1996 Atlantic hurricane season up to FT. Would you be interested in helping me? --<font face="comic sans ms"> Dylan 620  Efforts · Toolbox 01:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Alma
Hey, just to let you know that Alma's retirement yesterday means you have 3 months, or until 22nd July, to get the article to at least good and into the Retired Pacific hurricanes topic. Hope that's okay! - rst20xx (talk) 11:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Assesment
All done - over to you now :) Jason Rees (talk) 03:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Re Newsletter
Yeah thats fine then. As i said in my message im going to try and bring the WPAC up to scratch this afternoon. (though that easier said then done!!!)Jason Rees (talk) 16:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

A few things
Hi Hink. I have a page that might interest you my editor's review. also, i will be taking a wikibreak starting tomorrow night and ending next Thursday. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox

I was looking through some of the GIBBS Weather images and found what could be a tropical cyclone in the Tasman Sea. It could also have been a powerful extratropical cyclone with a well defined eye wall.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/gibbs/html/MTS-1/VS/2009-04-24-00

And Sorry about the article.

Wonderworld1995268 7:09p.m. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonderworld1995268 (talk • contribs) 00:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry wrong page!

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/gibbs/html/MTS-1/VS/2009-04-21-00

Wonderworld1995268 7:14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonderworld1995268 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Did you open the first or second? I had the wrong address on the first page.

Wonderworld1995268 (talk) 00:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Wonderworld1995268Wonderworld1995268 (talk) 00:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are listed as a GA reviewer. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 07:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

This comment might be off some intrest to you
Jason Rees (talk) 16:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sudal (and other stuff)
How far along are you? Personally, I've done an intro and have a retirement mention, plus my sources laid out, but if you wish to take the project, don't be afraid to. I'm not really that good with WPac since it's not only the first article in that basin I've ever thought of doing (retired, that is. I was planning on Linda, but the info is all over the place, especially on the death toll. Winnie in 04 was another, but I'm lacking a really good group of sources on meteorological history. If I had that, I could begin the article in earnest). I do know some of the standards (km over m, km/h over mph, and metric over imperial, not to mention the categories of JMA cyclones) So if you finish yours, please don't mind publishing it. If I have any good info you missed, I'll add it to that article.

And on another note, while I'm really gung ho about Lily, 1887 Manantico tropical storm is etching on my mind. The problem here is obvious: it's a REALLY old storm (older than some of today's terminology and a (nearly) full 50 years before the oldest storm I did, that being Nina). I have the document for land impact, a Landsea-associated document from the archives I found sourced in the Last Island Hurricane article, and a google books hit for detailed shipwreck info, but I have no idea how to go about info on Hurricane Archives. I will still try, but I'm nervous about it. As for some older haunts, I still have Alma 74, Kesiny, Alma 02, Able 52, T. Linda 97, Winnie 04, and Barbara 53 on my mind, with two ideas (Lupit 03 and Gavin), but I don't want to go too fast too soon, so if anyone wishes to do them, it's OK by me. I'm mostly doing a "soft reacquaintance" with Wikipedia writing. Cora was a test run (though I was a little shocked it made GA).

And finally, I've been really impressed with your recent Tara 61 article. I never thought we'd get an article on it, to be honest. Sorry if I sound strange. I didn't get too much sleep yet. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 13:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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Templates for deletion nomination of Template:Most intense landfalling Pacific hurricanes
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TFA image
Here's what it would look like. I really like it, and it looks good at thumb. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

The quiet Camille subpage
No work has been done on the new Camille page since mid-March. Should we consider moving some of the information into the main Camille article now, or readvertise the group effort to the project? Thegreatdr (talk) 12:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Before I drop Betsy from the list
This is our current list of wettest tropical cyclones in the Bahamas. I wanted to ask you before I did this, but is a newspaper from Hurricane Archives good enough of a source? I ask because one article on Isidore from 84 pegs that Nassau was hit with 10 inches of rain, placing it in 7th where Fay is now. It, however, doesn't say something like "more than 10 inches" or "roughly 10 inches", it just flat out says "10 inches". The excerpt runs thus: "Before stalling, Isidore poured 10 inches of rain on Nassau, forcing schools and banks to close and driving thousands of island tourists indoors." Thanks! And I can assure you the article is getting good treatment. There's plenty of sources for it. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 07:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's what you found, add it to the list. Thegreatdr (talk) 08:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, that works. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 12:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Project and future
I actually had quite a few gripes about the project. Since I'm still not tired for the night, I guess I can mention some: In general, my reasons for leaving are slightly selfish, but in general, I feel that by acting outside the Wikiproject protocol as of late, I can turn in articles for plenty of older storms, so there'd be a lesser backlog and we'd be able to focus on current and recent articles. Plus, I can't stand the bad vibes. What about your reasons? I wanted to ask, but I undid my typing then. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 14:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) The Erick debate. While I'm all for tropical cyclone articles, Erick struck me as strange in that it's, frankly, not the kind of article that should be FA. It's irksome that Erick, a storm with absolutely N-O land impact (even IRENE did more) has an FA, yet Wilma, Andrew, and other major names are wallowing in Cs and Starts. It's hypocritical of me saying it, since I work with just-as-obscure storms, but if I'm a person who wants info for a legendary storm like Andrew, I want the best info, and it really burns my toast when that work goes to a storm that did absolutely nothing. I can see where Eric Brown was coming from (not to mention the steam coming out of his ears.)
 * 2) Current article work. A little known fact about me is that, while I will make no claim that I'm the best anime reviewer or the best hurricane article author, I'm still proud of what I put into my work. The reason I shy away from newer storms is because there's too much info about, and since it'd be slightly hard to pick and choose what is best, and since old storms have more restricted sources, I feel that's best. However, as the discussion pointed out on the Project talk page (current season articles) shows, if more interest from me is given to new articles, I fear it means substandard work. Call me narcissistic, but that's how I am.
 * 3) Camille. Like you mentioned on David Roth's talk page and what I said above, I find it ridiculous that Camille, one of the most well-known hurricanes, can't even have the amount of interest it deserves. While I don't blame the Project (it's pretty easy to see that the glory days have passed us by), I'd appreciate it if someone had made a cursory attempt to work out the wrinkles and get the old hurricanes the attention they deserve, which in turn could be viewed in other circles as a revival of interest.
 * 4) Philosophy. The whole prospect of the Wikiproject when I joined and when it was founded was to provide the best source for tropical cyclones on the web, but instead, we're letting personal differences work the project to pieces. In the old days, while notability was an issue, we at least worked around it. Here, we're just getting log-jammed.

Comments on Cora
Thanks for taking the time to comment on Cora's Peer Review. I'm not bitter if it loses GA, because I missed vital info, and to me, that needs put in, but I have a (sweatdrop) slight issue: outside the discussions, I don't know how to read the charts because my monitor blows the details up too much and I can't tell much out of it. While I skim through the disc.s, could you please help me with the charts and graphs? Thanks! (And also, I'm thinking about the Project as on your recent post and am racking my brain hard for this one. Big theories require big thoughts, so I'm taking my time). Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 11:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, will do. I'll stick to the discussions and advisories for now. And one more question. Is it too late to join the challenge you had up for the eight basins (if it's even still active)? I ask because I feel I missed the train. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 02:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

IRC
Dont get us wrong we want you :) Jason Rees (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Come online would you Some people do want you online :) Jason Rees (talk) 00:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

1943 Mazatlán hurricane
Hey, just wanted to let you know that I've placed 1943 Mazatlán hurricane's GA nom on-hold, pending the addition of some more info. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Help!
Are you still a member of WPTC? If you are, how can I contribute to it? If not or if you are busy, can you send me to a person who can help me? Thanks! Darren23 (talk) 23:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Met. History of Hurricane Ike
Juliancolton told that you're working on the Met History of Ike article. Although I am relatively new, I really want to help you with the article if you want. Thanks. Darren23 (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Tropical Cyclones post-1980 interest me, mostly Atl, WPac, and Aus basins, and I would try to improve an article first before I create my own article. I don't really have any favorite tropical cyclones but Hurricane Ike does interest me, mostly because I live in Texas and it was very costly. Darren23 (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Tropical cyclone WikiProject newsletter #26
Number 23, June 7 The Hurricane Herald This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of April and May 2009.

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Storm of the month Cyclone Aila was the second tropical cyclone to form within the Northern Indian Ocean during 2009. The disturbance that was to become Cyclone Aila formed on 21 May 2009 about 950 km to the south of Kolkata, in India. Over the next couple of days the disturbance slowly developed before a Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert was issued by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center early on 23 May 2009 and being designated as a depression by RSMC New Delhi. , 330 people have been killed by Aila and at least 8,208 more are missing, while about 1 million are homeless. Health officials in Bangladesh confirmed a deadly outbreak on diarrhea on 29 May, with more than 7,000 people being infected and four dying. In Bangladesh, an estimated 20 million people were at risk of post-disaster diseases due to Aila. Damage totaled $40.7 million (USD).

Other tropical cyclone activity Tropical Depression One was the first tropical cyclone to develop during the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. The depression formed on May 28, out of a disorganized area of low pressure off the coast of North Carolina. However after attaining its peak strength the depression began to weaken due to increasing wind shear and cooling sea surface temperatures with the final advisory being issued on May 29.
 * North Atlantic
 * 2009 Pacific typhoon season - In the two month period, there were four tropical cyclones, all within a short time period and small area. Tropical Depression Crising moved through the Philippines but didn't develop. Typhoon Kujira formed over the Philippines, causing 29 deaths and almost $30 million in damage, before becoming the equivalent of a Category 4 hurricane. While Kujira was active, a tropical depression formed and dissipated over the open ocean, while Typhoon Chan-hom developed and organized in the South China Sea, eventually crossing Luzon and causing 60 deaths and heavy damage.
 * North Indian - Aside from Aila, Cyclone Bijli formed in April, making landfall on Bangladesh and killing 7 people.
 * South Indian– Cyclone Jade was the final Cyclone to form. Jade formed on April 5th from a tropical disturbance it quickly intensifed and bcame a category one tropical cyclone on the SSHS before making its first of three landfalls on Madagascar. Jade then dissipated on April 11 after causing fifteen deaths.
 * Australian Region - Cyclone Kirrly formed on April 25 in the Arafura Sea to the north of Australia within 5 degrees of the equator which is an unusual area of formation. It quickly reached its peak before making landfall on eastern Indonesia.
 * South Pacific - As the last newsletter was published Tropical Cyclone Lin was just devloping as Tropical depression 14F. Lin eventually went on to affect Fiji and Tonga causing at least $1000 worth of damage. Tropical Disturbance 15F also formed this month within the Solomon Islands. It moved eventually moved into the Australian Region but was not monitored by TCWC Brisbane as anything higher than an area of low pressure.

Member of the month The member of the month is Jason Rees, who joined Wikipedia in 2007, and has written nine tropical cyclone GA's. Jason primarily focuses on Southern Hemisphere storms, as well as the Western Pacific. He has plans for featured topics for several seasons, but for now, he is a regular member of the project who adds his input in discussions on the talk page. We thank Jason for his work, and we look forward to more articles!

New members
 * User:Kyle1278
 * User:Bbabybear02
 * User:Darren23

New and improved articles
 * There were no new pieces of Featured content
 * New Good articles include: 1973 Pacific hurricane season, Hurricane Kiko (1989), Tropical Storm Carlos (2003)
 * New storm articles include: Hurricane Dalilia (1989), Typhoon Wipha (2007)
 * New non-storm articles include: 1972 Hurricane Agnes tornado outbreak, Meteorological history of Hurricane Luis, Effects of Hurricane Georges in Louisiana, Timeline of the 2002 Pacific hurricane season

Main Page content
 * Hurricane Ismael was Today's Featured Article on April 25
 * Facts from the 1924 Cuba hurricane, Hurricane Lily (1971), Hurricane Tara (1961), and Hurricane Cora (1978) appeared in the Did You Know? section of the Main Page during April and May.
 * Typhoon Chan-hom (2009) and Cyclone Aila appeared on the Main Page in the In the News section.

Storm article statistics Project News There is debate as usual with regards to notability, as well as the status of the project in general, but nothing new is going on.

During the last week, some editors have organized a page &mdash; WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Viewed stats &mdash; that has a listing of monthly page views within the project. It is under construction, although it is complete for all Eastern Pacific tropical cyclones, as well as all Atlantic tropical cyclones from 1979 to the present. Interestingly, the top 6 viewed EPAC articles are all featured, and all of the top 16 in the basin are GA's. Unfortunately, the Atlantic, at least from 1979 to the present, is much worse, despite being viewed much, much more. The top eight-viewed Atlantic articles all are viewed more than 10,000 times per month, for a total of 363889 views per month, but only two of them are featured, and none of the others are GA. As always, any help in the retired storms would be greatly appreciated.

Somewhat tying into the bettering of project articles, the basin article challenge is still ongoing. Hurricanehink is currently in the lead with a GA in 2 basins. Cyclonebiskit is in 2nd, with one GA in the EPAC. The challenge is still open to anyone, and it is not so much a race, rather a challenge just to get a fairly important GA in each basin.

1996 PHS GT Update
The 1996 PHS GT is going pretty well. Just to let you know I will plan to send Alma, Fausto, and Hernan to PR when I get Boris to GAN. Do you think any more articles need to be created? Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home, User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox

Rainfall for the 1971 season
The next series of Mexican rainfall images/pages are focused on 1973-1982. It will be a little while before I get to 1971, but yes, Olivia will be dealt with at some point. It will need to wait for the more current storms to be drawn though. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:21, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In unrelated news, a yellow evan article is getting trashed once more, Hurricane Boris (1996), but this time because someone passed it to GA status when it was clearly not ready. I've made some effort to improve it, since it has been GARed.  Thegreatdr (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Retired Pacific hurricane tracks.png
(Sorry for the late reply. I'm really very busy) Even though someone else (Titoxd) took care of it, because my PC broke, and I losted all my own files".-Ramisses (talk) 22:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We are interested in the 20th Anniversary of Hurricane Hugo
Indeed we are!

The UWEC under 173.19.119.172 (talk) 04:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I remember Hugo as if it were yesterday. I studied it, and visited the areas it devastated as part of a project I was working on in college. I remember driving to these places in October of '89, and the amount of trees that were knocked down on I-95 was incredible. Most, if not all, of the road signs and billboards were gone, most notably those, "Pedro says such and such miles to South of the Border" billboards.

About two years ago, I was in Charleston, and you could still see tree damage from Hugo if you looked closely into the forests. Interestingly enough, '04's Charley and Gaston hit in almost the very same place, McClennanville, a tiny fishing community, that was ground zero for Hugo's devastation. Hugo was a monster, but Charley and Gaston were Category One hurricanes when they hit S.C. In fact,Gaston had been classified as a tropical storm until post season analysis showed maximum sustained winds reached 81 miles per hour at one point. Hugo was the first of the big storms that started to begin about 20 years ago. Two years later came Bob, Three years later Andrew, and the many, many landfalling storms since 1995. Hugo's anniversary is notable.Popartpete 00:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Popartpete (talk • contribs)

Hurricane Charley (1986)
Hi, I have passed this article as GA. Very nicely done. Congratulations! Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 18:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Cesar-Douglas 1996 track.png
✅ Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 01:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hurricane Felix at GAR
Just to let you know (in case you don't already know) that Hurricane Felix (1995) is up for good article reassessment. Geometry guy 20:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hurricane Irene–Olivia
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

Wind up for FAC
It has been a while since I've submitted an article for FAC. Long enough, in fact, to try FAC again, this time for wind. Like List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States, wind has predominantly been edited by me. Let's hope for the best, despite my significant involvement. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 22:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association
The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 20:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: 1993 PHS
Yeah, I'm afraid I bit off a bit more than I can chew with that one. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

IRC
If possible can u come online when you get this message please. Thanks Jason Rees (talk) 15:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Theres an interesting conversation going on IRC - Might be worth you coming on and saying hello since we seem to be missing each other at the minute:PJason Rees (talk) 18:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
For your courtesy, I was the least expecting and am in a way new here. Altarboy420 (talk) 02:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I updated my page to answer a few questions. The 2004 season was my favorite that I have lived through. I like older and newer storms but mainly fascinated with Atlantic storms. Altarboy420 (talk) 03:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

...what the...
I have to ask. Is this an actual track map and not a mistake? If it isn't a mistake, I formally declare any and all possible "Strangest Tropical Cyclone Track" contests over. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

As far as i am aware it isnt a mistake - Its like it because the JMA doesnt give an exact postion for Minor Tropical Depressions (eg just 123E). Jason Rees (talk) 12:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yea, it's an actual track map. I forgot to save the JTWC tracking points so I had to use the ones from the JMA (which as you can easily see, suck). Cyclonebiskit (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you page stalkers for explaining that, and letting me sleep in. :) Yea, basically they're not exact positions. Imagine if a drifting depression in the NHC basin had all of its points rounded to the nearest whole degree - it'd be weird. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Anytime hink ;) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No Problem Master :P Jason Rees (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have I ever mentioned that it's never a dull day with you bunch? Glad to be here! Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 23:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

IRC
When I go on the IRC and if JC and JR are on, they often get me angry. Today, JC called my first "true" GA a mess and called me dumb. JR has also said bad words to me. I am trying to form my own opinion for a TD 1 E article, but JC and JR will not allow me to expreess myself and are saying it's disruptive. What do you advise?

GAR
Meteorological history of Hurricane Kyle (2002) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Article name change
Hi. No debate from me about moving 1915 New Orleans hurricane, except that in the process you broke the link to Commons. Please be aware of this and fix as necessary when you move pages. Thanks much. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Holy crap!
My goodness! You have so many featured articles! Way to go! Seriously, though. I have a good amount of featured articles under my belt, but you blow me out of the water, pal. Cheers.-- Pericles of Athens  <font color="#0000CD">Talk 18:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just don't go breaking that arm on purpose, though. ;) Lol. "Oops! I slipped and fell! Looks like my work is done here." (Wink). Hahaha. Have a good one, man.-- Pericles of Athens  <font color="#0000CD">Talk 22:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Might as well comment, since you're an admin
I wanted to ask since you're an admin, and are likely to know what I mean here, but User:Urbanwearcity is rubbing me the wrong way. I just get the idea that this person(s) only registered here to sell some stuff. I know we have a COI bot, but even at that, this guy seems blatantly promotional. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 14:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The Bad condition of some our lists
All of our EPAC list are in bad shape now since they are not updated. Eight storms that impacted Hawaii are missing, four in Arizona, Six in Baja California, Three in California. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home, Sandbox
 * sofixit – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

A new thing
Well, I have been working something and I would like for your comments on it. Also, have you thought of changing 2008 Atlantic hurricane season to the new format. Thanks. Darren23 (Contribs) 20:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #27
– Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #28
– Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You're invited!
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WPTC
Hi, I was wondering if I could join WPTC. I have been tracking hurricanes for five seasons. Thanks for you time. (Tropical Cyclone K (talk) 20:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC))

Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Four Award
As a past WP:FOUR awardee you may wish to comment at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Four Award.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Tornado in FARC, User:SandyGeorgia recommended you be contacted
nominated Tornado for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. <b style="color:#009900;">Ks0stm</b> If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. 20:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Check_Game is currently up for deletion, along with this and 94 other Price is Right games
You are welcome to comment in this deletion discussion. You are being contacted because you participated in the first AFD in 2007. Ikip (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

If you're still lurking
Can you join IRC briefly when you get a chance? – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You're invited to Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia
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