User talk:Hurricanehink/Archive 18

Wow thanks a lot! I love the place so far.

North American blizzard of 2009
Thanks for handling the merge on this article. I had like 20 tabs with different news sources open and it was going to be difficult for me to do it myself. Keep up the good work. --Shirik (talk) 04:50, 20 December 2009 (UTC) Thanks! I just hate seeing duplicate articles.

Hi
 Darren 23 Edits 16:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure I can help out with storms. I'm stilll kinda new, but I'm pretty familiar with them, I get them a lot.
 * So click in that link and put your name in! Good luck, and Happy holidays!  Darren 23 Edits 20:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey, so what do I do since I'm part of the project? It seems like every article is great condition already. Every one I visit I just see some minor errors. Is there anythin bigger that can be done? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 16:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi
These are some notes that should help you out with Hurricane Alma 1970.

As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article. Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.Jason Rees (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
 * 2) Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
 * 3) Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexable, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
 * 4) Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
 * 5) Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
 * 6) Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
 * 7) Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
 * 8) Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the  formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.


 * The MH is expand using both the advisories contained in this archive and the TCR. Also Google News is a good tool to use for preps/impact reports; It helps sometimes if you dont look for details at Hurricane instead look at Tropical Storm or watever.Jason Rees (talk) 22:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

But you can write "but" :-)
I noticed your edit to Sino-British relations, removing an initial "but". I hope you found it the article useful, and I'm glad you were bold in your editing. But in future you might like to liberate yourself from the rule that "but" and "and" can't be used at the beginning of sentences. An article by Mark Liberman explains why and gives many reliable sources.

If you wondering why I've bothered to tell you, it's the zeal of a convert. I was taught this "rule" in school, and carefully followed it for years. And then I began to teach English writing and realized that the evidence does not support it. Matt's talk 15:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Alpha & Alma
Alpha looks to be a lot better than Alma but both need several tweeks to enable them to go up for GA. I will compile a list in the next few days of things that need to be done to them to enable them to go up. Also for an article to become a good article it has to be applied for at Good Article Nominations and have to be judged by an independent reviewer to meet the Good Article Criteria but again ill help you to get the articles up to scratch.Jason Rees (talk) 22:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I showed Alpha to a few of the other project members who are more familar with Atlantic storms than i and they were really impressed by it. With one editor going as far as saying it was better than anything he could type up.Jason Rees (talk) 05:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: My article
Hi, yes, I did add metric conversions to the article as they're required by the WP:MOS. As for the 1600Z, it is a time. It stands for 16:00 (or 4pm) Universal Time. This time is used by all tropical cyclone agencies for uniformity. Nice work with Alpha's article, hope to see more like that. If you ever need help or have questions, feel free to ask me. Cheers, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm....There's not much that I know of for the early 50's other than the Monthly Weather Review. might know of some places where you can look for additional information. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Arlene (1981)
Hey there. Nice work on the above article! :) Quite impressive work; I hope you stick around and continue writing. Best regards, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 22:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Being an admin isn't that big a deal; it just means I get to wear a nice shiny hat! I can't see anything major that the article needs to be honest. You might consider sending it for consideration to become a "Good article" at WP:GAC. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, nah, the "admin's T-shirt/hat" is an in-joke of sorts. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm... there used to be a site called The Hurricane Archive, but it looks like it was just taken down in the past week. :( – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Other than Google Scholar and the AMS, I'm not sure where you'd find journals and such. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

A review has been made for Arlene, and it needs some work. Let me know if you're unfamiliar with exactly what I'm asking for to get this article to GA, such as convert template addition. I can give you a couple examples within this talk page, if it would help. Thegreatdr (talk) 14:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * All the items left are reference related (adding publisher info). There is a comment on the review page as to who the publisher for NHC products is (hint:  it lies within the physical web address itself).  NOAA will need to be spelled out National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.  Thegreatdr (talk) 18:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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 * ah crap, sorry, i always forget. --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 17:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane How (1951)
When sources contradict each other, I'll try to look for other sources to confirm the information either way. Barring any additional sources, however, I'd be more inclined to go with the source reporting a shipwreck; it's a lot easier to not report damage than it is to completely misreport it. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, sounds great. BTW, if two users try to edit the same thing at once, you'll get an "edit conflict", which is endlessly annoying, but nothing to worry about! You'll probably be able to retrieve the submitted text by scrolling down if you hit an edit conflict and copying it over from the edit window. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, since it actually became extratropical (ie. dissipated) on October 7, that's what should be in the infobox. Also, I added a surface map to the lead—in the future, you can just look through this website to find them for other storms. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's called a surface weather analysis, and it basically shows the weather conditions, including major features like frontal boundaries and high/low pressure systems. It's a good substitute for satellite imagery when you're writing on older storms. BTW, since you're pretty experienced with the wiki and you seem like you're trustworthy, I've given you "rollback" rights; basically, this allows you to quickly and efficiently revert vandalism, if you ever notice it. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that...! You have to take a screenshot to harvest the maps from that source. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 05:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Able 51
Hey—don't get too discouraged about the FAC. It happens. Hope you stick around and keep writing those GAs! – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's easy to get frustrated around here, but most people are generally pretty friendly. Folks will be blunt about content, as they should be, but it's nothing personal. You'll get the hang of it eventually, though, and it'll be a lot easier to get articles up to GA and FA. The reason I've stayed so long is largely because I have nothing better to do, but also because I enjoy making friends and doing something worthwhile at the same time. It's also nice to talk with people who share similar interests, since nobody else really cares to hear about hurricanes in my family! As long as you stay away from the daily drama and bureaucrat of Wikipedia, you can work behind-the-scenes and just build some good articles. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:27, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Able (1950) and Alice (1953)
I'll try to get to Able this coming week. I have a new surface analyst to train, so two weeks could be more likely. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Named storms
Hi Viennaiswaiting with is me again. I would like to inform you on something good. Yesterday I created an article for Tropical Storm Chris and Ernesto of 2000. Well, that is not what I really wanted to tell. What I really wanted to tell you is that all named storms in the 2000s decade have an article!

Yes every named storm in the 2000s, from Hurricane Alberto (2000) to Hurricane Ida (2009). Thank you for any named storm article you created in the decade of the 2000s. I think you created Hurricane Humberto (2001) but I can't find anymore. Write on my talk page if you created more than that.

Again, thank you! --12george1 (talk) 15:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

IRC
Hey. Have you ever heard of the WP:WPTC IRC channel? It's basically where a group of editors chat in real-time about wiki-related stuff, but with off-topic discussion mixed in. If you're interested, go to this site and enter #wiki-hurricanes as the channel. Hope to see you there! – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:31, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, your call. You can pop in for a few minutes if you'd like, but no worries. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Inflate
See the edit screen use this template $ for inflating money to current year and for the current year place USD.Jason Rees (talk) 04:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

You're right about Typhoon Angela
A simple google search revealed more info within the first 5 links. The article is missing a prep section as well. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ooh, ok --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 18:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Review done, ready for work  &#47; MWOAP &#124;  Notify Me &#92; 01:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)