User talk:Hurricanehink/Archive 19

Welcome back
Welcome back, Hurricanehink. I see you've finally managed to end your withdrawl symptoms :) Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:43, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Its nice to see you back. Leave Message, Yellow Evan home
 * Same here.  —  Soap  —  02:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I missed it. No promises, but I'm pretty sure I'm here to stay :) --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: missing much
No, there have not been any dramatic developments while you were gone. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 04:21, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Typhoon Chataan's damage
I obtained the damage through combining the reports listed on the disaster page for the storm on Digital Typhoon. I don't have time at the moment to sift through them again and source the proper ones for the article. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 14:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually can't come on IRC. I'm at school and the school computers do not allow for chat rooms to work. I'll be on around 3:20 pm when I get home though. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:05, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've sent an email to Dr. Landsea to see if he could contact anyone in the Joint Typhoon Warning Center or another agency in the region to verify this damage total. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:12, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Karl 1980
Looking at HURDAT, it seems that while the unnamed 1991 hurricane became a subtropical storm at 36.7&deg;N, it did so late on October 31; by 0000 UTC on November 1, it had moved 0.7&deg; south, which would have tied Karl's record of 36.0. Should I exclude the 1991 storm since it formed in October? – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article Candidate: Tropical Storm Leslie (2000)
Juliancolton said that he told you about the FAC of Tropical Storm Leslie (2000). I would like to hear your opinion on the current state of that article as you are "active" presently. You are also the user with the highest number of edits on that article so you are definitely a "major contributor". Oh wait, you can't comment because someone posted Hurricanehink as one of the nominators. But I would appreciate it if you could write anything on my talk page that might prevent it from passing. Thank you, --12george1 (talk) 01:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nominators can still comment... – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sometimes it's an honor just nominating. hehehe  Thegreatdr (talk) 12:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Off-season hurricanes
(Had to do a double-take when I ended up at what I thought was the wrong user page)

After I wrote my list of comments, I thought more about what was actually missing from your article. I thought of the following things, but didn't want to whack them on the end of my FLC comments before you'd had a chance to deal with everything else I said...


 * A picture showing trajectories of all off-season hurricanes. The picture on the right shows trajectories for all cat 5 Atlantic hurricanes, for example. A similar thing for off-season hurricanes would be great. You've briefly mentioned where they form and where they usually make landfall, but there's nothing visual to back that up. In addition, it's one of the very few pictures you could use which simultaneously describes/includes every off-season hurricane at once.
 * I think you need a section (perhaps redesign the background section) to include the following... I haven't read anything to do with hurricanes previously, so you'll need to fill in a lot of the blanks anyway...
 * Definitions of off-season and on-season by various organisations (past and present) involved with monitoring hurricanes. There is something similar to this already in the article, but make sure it's complete. Also emphasise the actual role of these agencies (for example, The National Hurricane Center is responsible for monitoring all tropical depressions, tropical storms and hurricanes which form in the north Atlantic. It's something which layreaders won't necessarily know)
 * Why are hurricanes less likely to form during the off-season. Once again, I don't know anything about hurricanes but there must be a meterological reason why hurricanes typically form during the hurricane season, and why they don't during the off-season. You may need to explain background into hurricane formation itself to do this.
 * Characteristics of off-season hurricanes. Where do they typically form/typically move/typically make landfall? You've mentioned these facts here and there over the article, but they should be grouped together. Would work well with the trajectory picture I mentioned earlier.
 * Characteristics of off-season hurricanes compared to on-season hurricanes. Is the only difference between the two the month in which it forms? Are they any other differences? In general, do off-season hurricanes have similar pressures/winds/strength/duration/trajectories to on-season hurricanes?

I think if you were able to add these things then it would form a much better standalone article, especially as there's no other article for off-season hurricanes which users could otherwise read to get this kind of information. --Tntnnbltn (talk) 10:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. Some things are redundant: hurricanes occur during the hurricane season because the hurricane season was made around when most hurricanes form. I will get the cumulative image, good idea, I've used it in others. BTW, yea, naming thing was an April Fools joke that didn't really work, so pardon for the confusion :) --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I understand that "hurricane season" itself was defined arbitarily, but what I meant in my comments is there must be meterological reason why there is a seasonal variation to begin with. i.e. Why do less cyclones form in the Atlantic basin during Dec-Mar than during Jun-Nov. I did a quick Google search and turned up the following articles which in part answer my question:  --Tntnnbltn (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of North Carolina hurricanes (2000–present)/archive2
I made a comment there which Juliancolton disagrees with, could you reply there so we can achieve consensus?  Jujutacular  T · C 01:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

1776 in Louisiana
Nice catch. If Chenoweth says it hit Louisiana on that date, you can likely take that to the bank. I'll assign a date to that system within the Louisiana hurricane history today. It would likely be a while before I'm able to go over to the Library of Congress and check out what impact the storm may have had in Louisiana within larger national papers. There were no newspapers in Louisiana before the early 19th century, as far as I know, so the sources of information would either be national papers or diaries of people who lived in Natchitoches, La Balize, or New Orleans in 1776, which were the only inhabited locations in Louisiana by people of European descent at that time. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Effects of Hurricane Jeanne in the Mid-Atlantic region
Just wanted to get your thoughts on this article so far 166.137.138.172 (talk) 14:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC) (Cyclonebiskit via phone)

Hurricane Tanya
Hi Hurricanehink its me again. I noticed you have been reviewing several tropical cyclone articles since you became reactive on Wikipedia. Anyway, I was wondering, if you have time can you review Hurricane Tanya (1995), I just nominated the article for GA because I think it meets the criteria. Thank you, --12george1 (talk) 18:48, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #29
JCbot (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Humberto (2001)
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Hurricane Humberto (2001) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. –Grondemar 03:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I passed GA for this article.  Great job! –Grondemar 04:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tropical Storm Olaf (1997)
The article Tropical Storm Olaf (1997) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tropical Storm Olaf (1997) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! S Masters (talk) 10:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Calm down
Hes only an idiot :PJason Rees (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh be nice JR :P Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hurricane Fernanda (1993)/GA1
Hi, I have commented on your GA nomination at Talk:Hurricane Fernanda (1993)/GA1. Best, Xtzou ( Talk ) 21:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Able (1950)
Did Viennaiswaiting leave wikipedia? It redirected from their talk page to yours. Just trying to let them know I went out of order to create the rainfall graphics for Able (1950), as they requested. Thegreatdr (talk) 06:42, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow. I didn't think people were supposed to have multiple wikipedia accounts (something about sock puppetry).  Anyhow, as long as my message got to the right person.  It helps explain why older articles were finally being tackled by someone else.  =)  By the way, you had excellent luck with GA reviewers since your return.  I'm STILL trying to get the 1984 AHS season review finished (this was the oldest article not to be reviewed before their GA review drive started), through no fault of my own.  Thegreatdr (talk) 17:52, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It really isn't easy to figure out. I know all those non-developing systems were considered TDs after the fact, and renumbered.  However, since there is no official source of that information outside of that database, and TD standards changed in the late 1980s, to some degree it has been left up to me to decide until the re-analysis reaches 1984.  And that's not a good thing in the eyes of wikipedia.  The November system was definitely extratropical near Florida, though it could have been subtropical when it approached Bermuda.  Ultimately, the HPC rainfall project talks about one extra tropical depression, so it ends up being the source.  That would leave it 18.  Thegreatdr (talk) 04:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There are two reasons why I think they bothered with this. A couple of them either wanted to establish to tropical depression database for NHC, or it was something they needed to do to comply with other WMO regional specialized meteorological centers.  Even JTWC has historically treated TDs similarly to TSs and HU/TYs.  The reanalysis should take care of this problem when it reaches 1984.  Thegreatdr (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Eleven years is optimistic, per the rate of progress in approving changes. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

WMO
Sorry to disappoint you on the day when 1995 PHS passed its FTC, but the WMO rejected the idea of the spare list of names so we are stuck with the Greek Names.Jason Rees (talk) 18:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Able (1950)
Hi, I have reviewed Hurricane Able (1950) and placed it on hold for seven days with some concerns. You can see my review here: Talk:Hurricane Able (1950)/GA1. Canadian  Paul  03:27, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Able 50
Not a problem! Tropical cyclones have long been one of my eclectic tastes. I'll give you a ring if I need anything, for sure. :) - The Bushranger (talk) 02:31, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Stan
I've started to take a crack at improving this article, now having completed its met history. I wanted to know how much of the non-tropical system impact to put in. The system that caused it was not Stan and the actual low dissipated early on October 5. Since it was just energy from Stan that fueled the rains to be worse, should it just be a paragraph or two for each impacted country? Thanks, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:FOUR
If you have unretired, please have a look at WP:FOUR and make sure you have received your full complement of credits.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Welcome back. Please nominate yourself.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane How (1951)
Hi, I have reviewed Hurricane How (1951) and placed it on hold for up to seven days with several concerns. You can see my review here: Talk:Hurricane How (1951)/GA1. Canadian  Paul  22:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:GOLDENW
You might also want to shoot for the WP:GOLDENW, if you don't already qualify.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Rainfall graphics tidbit
If it wasn't for CLIQR, the Unnamed Tropical Storm of 1956 would be one of the last graphics older storms I'd be producing for Atlantic tropical cyclones impacting the United States. There are still many to tackle for Mexico, and those will likely go back into the late 1950s. The original plan was to bridge back to the former rainfall survey, which went through 1955, published by HPC's predecessor organization. For reference, I'm only planning to go back to 1950 with the TC Rainfall Climo, with a few other old storms added where 24-hour rainfall records were set in various states. Most of the remaining database development will lie with the CLIQR database, my working version of an expanded extended best track database for the Atlantic and eastern Pacific which helps find a match to a hypothetical, or current, TC threat. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

It's back on GAN - 1990 Pacific hurricane season
I thought as the reviewer over three years ago you'd be interested. The only item I didn't tackle was the ACE information. I'd be open to tossing the section if need be, if the current referencing is not enough. The rest of the article should be ok now. Thegreatdr (talk) 13:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The first round of edits have been made per your recommendations. Strike out what you think has been taken care of, and let know know what else may need to be fixed, if it wasn't covered previously.  I'm going to try to get this good enough for GA by Monday, if possible.  Thegreatdr (talk) 21:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I need to know more about google news. Whats the website?  Are article searches simpler than the hurricane archive was?  We are fairly unique within wikipedia concerning our use of news articles as primary sources for these hurricane articles (though we really have no other choice).  It became an issue during the 1984 AHS article GAN.  Thegreatdr (talk) 22:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Dennis
Go ahead... I can't really look at it, don't have much time for wiki nowadays... :( Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 06:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Re Cuba
Ill talk to you about this next time we speak on-line but i am really surprised that all of the cyclones comes from the 00s. And btw i didnt create it :PJason Rees (talk) 02:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Clarify?
Not sure where this came from:  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 23:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Its simple after speaking with Hink yesterday via IRC he invited me to add myself as a co-nominator and i did.Jason Rees (talk) 01:45, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's true. Jason has helped me prepare the article. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thx (one of those reasons I love IRC ... no one else has a clue :) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 01:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Lisa Simpson
Hello, I just noticed that you left a review on the page's FAC, which I failed to notice because of the comments immediately after yours (and I apologize for taking so long to get to it). I have a few responses/questions, that I'll post here.


 * I think the "Role in the Simpsons" section is a bit short. The second paragraph of the lede (top of the article) and the fourth paragraph of "Role in the Simpsons" cover similar content, and yet the "role" section isn't any longer. Could you pad that section out more?
 * I'm not a fan of padding articles for length, but do you have any suggestions for what could be added?
 * For the "Voice" section, it says that Smith read two lines for Bart and was then told she done. Did she really get the job for Lisa based on those two lines? Or, was she called back?
 * In all of the interviews I've read, Smith is kind of vague on certain details, and there is a lot of contradiction from various cast members. For example, Nancy Cartwright claimed in her book that she was the only one to read for Bart, but Smith says she read for the role before taking Lisa.
 * Under reception, you only mention the positive reception, which is more broadly about the show. I know many people who name Lisa as their least-favorite character. Surely there is some encyclopediac merit to include the opposing viewpoint.
 * It's a good point, and I will take a look, but the big problem will be getting constructive comments from reliable sources. There are some things I'd like to add, but haven't been able to find the sources for it (for example, I wanted to add something about Lisa's character being shifted from just being moralistic to being a left wing radical, but was unable to find any non-forum/blog sources). Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion 0422  01:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I've expanded the voice section with a bit more detail on Smith's audition. I'll take a look for some negative reception, but I'm not too optimistic. As for Cyclone Gonu, I'll try to take a look. -- Scorpion 0422  15:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Hurricane Michael (2000)/archive1
Just curious, why do you think it needs US impact? It stayed hundreds of miles off the East Coast. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Iravan/archive1
Thanks for your comments. I have replied to your comments. Please check.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:43, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I do not have any hard feelings about reviewers who oppose and give endless constructive criticism. Please check again. Please do not strike your oppose till you are totally satisfied with the article (I want to create a near- WP:PERFECT article), though please strike issues settled. Thanks. PS: Sorry, sadly can't badger you with endless comments. Not enough time, there are too many Hinduism articles I need to improve. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe you didn't read this message. This is to request you to check again. Thanks. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Storm Prediction Center
I think I completed most of the comments you left here. Another glance over the article and a check of how I did on your previous comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ks0stm  If you reply here, please leave me a  message on my talk page. 22:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Benet Academy FAC
Thank you for reviewing Benet Academy. I have responded to the suggestion you provided here. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

ITN for Cyclone Laila
-- HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Ye Olde Triple crown
I just discovered this fun little part of wikipedia last month and got the napoleanic one, though including everything they required took some time. I'd think your status would be higher than listed on that page, no? Thegreatdr (talk) 00:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Catarina?
So I was perusing the Metsul blog to look for Anita-related facts, and I ran into this tidbit: Em primeiro lugar, é importante dizer que tanto o furacão Catarina de 2004 como a Tempestade Tropical Anita de 2010 são eventos extremamente raros na região, logo não podemos falar de uma temporada de ciclones tropicais no Atlântico Sul, ao contrário do que existe no Atlântico Norte entre 1º de junho e 30 de novembro Roughly translated, that states, "In the first place, it is important to say that both 2004's Hurricane Catarina and 2010's Tropical Storm Anita are extremely rare events for the region, so we cannot speak of a South Atlantic tropical cyclone season, opposite to what exists in the North Atlantic between June 1 and November 30". It seems odd to me they call Catarina a hurricane, while they could have called it a tropical cyclone. Should the Catarina article be modified to reflect that? Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 21:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Dennis
Featured article review/Hurricane Dennis/archive1 was never transcluded to WP:FAR. IF you still want to FAR it, you should reinstate the nom, new date, and transclude to FAR. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Money doubles
Hurricane, in reference to this edit HERE while it appear that you corrected it to the right number of zeros, the final figure of $635 million does not appear correct.

Why? as a rule of thumb money doubles every 12 years (or, said differently, losses half of its value every 12 years). There are many references to this in the world of finance, here's just one HERE. Look at this simple and quick way of computing $50Million in 2010 dollars: YEAR..........Amt 1928....$ 50M 1940....$100M 1952....$200M 1964....$400M 1976....$800M 1988....$1.6Billion 2000....$3.2B 2012....$6.4B

Thus, 2010 is about $6.35Billion, which was the previous number there. I am reverting your edit until there can be enough reason to call it just $635Million in 2010 dollars. I know you are using the automated function; well then the logic in the automated function has not been written right, or the function is not written properly in teh Edit page. It's that simple. BTW, the decimal point similarities were just pure coincidence (635.0M <-->6.35B). Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 03:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the explanation, but it wasn't anything to get so excited about! Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 04:09, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

93L sandbox
Hello Hurricanehink! Recently the National Hurricane Center [http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT1+shtml/DDHHMM.shtml? upgraded 93L to TD1], so I think if you updated that sandbox of yours, WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Tropical Depression One. Maybe we could easily create an article because of heavy rains dropped by the precursor and it the outskirts of TD 1 are causing rainfall over northern Honduras. --12george1 (talk) 22:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Administrative note - It was moved to WPTC/TD 1 by 12george1 apon classification of TD 1.Jason Rees (talk) 23:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And I moved it to mainspace. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 00:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Andrew nominated for FA.
I wanted to inform you that I nominated a article you frequently contribute to, Hurricane Andrew, for featured article. If you want to leave your thoughts, come by all means. :)  Qao-bou (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Typhoon_Sudal
Hello, your nomination of Typhoon Sudal at DYK was reviewed and comments provided. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Mediterranean tropical cyclone
Hy Hurricanehink, you remember me? please help me, the page Mediterranean tropical cyclone it's deleted..

Sorry, Why the page of Mediterranean tropical cyclone redirect from Tropical cyclone scales? where is Mediterranean tropical cyclone page?? missing? canceled? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.60.131.179 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't redirect to the scales article whilst the Med TC page was merged to Tropical Cyclone basins as it mostly contained Original Research.Jason Rees (talk) 23:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

This is unfair! to the page we worked for years. Even South Atlantic tropical cyclone are few but the page exists (only 6 events, mediterranean tropical cyclone >20 events). Should not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.54.3.188 (talk) 09:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The South Atlantic cyclones dont have original research. see Why was my page deleted. YE Tropical  Cyclone  14:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, the SATL cyclones have a whole bunch of sources from Anita and Catarina, and the research of previous cyclones. The Mediterranean TC have a few refs, a few sections have no refs at all, and therefore, there was probably original research in there. If you can find many reliable sources, then feel free to construct an article. Darren 23 Edits 20:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Yea, the article had too much original research, and, unlike in the South Atlantic, there are few explicit sources that say they were tropical cyclones in the Mediterranean. The sources we have say they were like polar lows, particularly the wintertime ones. Until there is more research into them, and until there is an official tropical cyclone there (or unofficial but considered by some legitimate agency, like NOAA or UKMET), I personally don't there should be an article on "Mediterranean tropical cyclones". Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Typhoon Sudal
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

GA nominations of 1950 and 2000 AHS
Hey Hurricanehink, I noticed that you nominated the 1950 Atlantic hurricane season and I nominated 2000 AHS for GA. It has taken a while, almost two weeks, and still no review of either. Since it was taken this long, how about I review 1950, if you can review 2000? --12george1 (talk) 16:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Tropical Depression Five (2010)
I have nominated Tropical Depression Five (2010), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Tropical Depression Five (2010). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Nilocla  ♈ ☮ 卍''' 23:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

San Felipe hurricane
Hi, thanks for taking a look at the article, I hope to collaborate in a few Hurricane articles. I am going to change the name back since its name is San Felipe hurricane, not 1876 San Felipe hurricane, I have read that the project has a policy on naming hurricane articles by:

"'Unnamed (including numbered) hurricanes (used for older tropical cyclones in all basins) should be distinguished by location, type, and year. Three naming conventions are acceptable: Galveston Hurricane of 1900, 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane, or Unnamed Hurricane (1975). All unnamed hurricanes should always have a year in the name. Again, create redirects wherever necessary to avoid confusion or duplicate articles.'"

but as I have explained to HurricaneSpin; many of the "unnamed" hurricanes HAVE names. And they are not "location, type, and year" names. Since the 1870ts San Juan had a meteorological observatory, and Havana before that. Still most of the hurricane before that were named and those name were used officially by Governments. Just because the US was not aware of this, it does not make it less true. Those names were not "popular culture" name of because of tradition, well mayby in part. But still that was the way the hurricanes were named back then and Caribbean, American (in the real sense not only the US), European and other governments and their citizens recognized them as their names, even the US at times.

I created 4 hurricane article in good faith and in less than a few hours they were nominated for merging. Sorry if I seem to come on strong but I get the felling that if I had named them 1876 Puerto Rico Hurricane, the editor would not have been so quick to propose merge, and instead would offer pointer on what he considers would improve the article. I am not assuming that there is bad faith, but sometimes because of self imposed "guidelines" one can be unable to grasp something se clear and obvious. After all isn't wikipidia about learning new things. Sorry if I rambled on.El Johnson (talk) 03:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


 * thanks for the quick response. I know editors don't own articles, I have been around wiki since before 2007.  As I also know Wikiprojects don't own them ether, although I do know they have more pro than cons, personally a member of 2. As for the name, you have a point, but the year in front of the name just isn't appropriate, in any case it could be San Felipe I, as is called in some official sources.  In those the second one is written as San Felipe II.  I feel that writing something like:

''This article is about the hurricane San Felipe in 1876. For the San Felipe Hurricane of 1928, see San Felipe II Hurricane''

or something like that. El Johnson (talk) 04:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Start-Class Low-Importance articles
Here it is Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 19:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Newsletter
Thank you for all the comment you've added, i will see that the next month's newsletter will be more useful for the readers, i will include all the project news and everything needed. Anirudh Emani (talk) 04:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Help?
I dont work on hurricanes or tropical storms but i think this one needs work. It is an important hurricane in California history,1858 San Diego hurricane. If your interested on working on it, it would help beacuse im trying to help articles in califronia. Spongie555 (talk) 05:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I have an account (giantsteen) but i am too lazy to log on it :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.49.233 (talk) 01:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Illinois (album)
Many thanks for your comments at FAC. Hopefully I can get that article looking better at some point. I have never been the principal author of an FA, but I certainly think that the album deserves it, if only I was more capable :) If you have any specific changes that you can make feel free to go for it, or any more additional insight I'll listen. Thanks again. Regards,  Jujutacular  talk 03:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina damage total
I truly believe that the actual damage total for Katrina was above $100 billion. Sources from several places (outside the NHC) clearly state damage of at least $120 billion. Most recently, I came across a report published on July 28 of this year stating $135 billion in damage from Katrina alone. I'd like your thoughts on this since this is a stat that hasn't been touched for several years. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't right now. I'm still at school...albeit I'm free the rest of the day (no one can take me home). I should be home around 3:15 and since I'll have no work to do, I'll be on shortly after that. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Igor and Karl articles
Thanks for moving the Igor article. I also have one for Karl (geez it is busy out there) at User:CrazyC83/Karl10, and the recommended destination is Hurricane Karl (2010). Thanks! (not working on a Julia article at the moment as there is no real impact there, waiting at least for a while for that if no one else does one) CrazyC83 (talk) 03:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC) ✅ ;) Hurricanehink ( talk ) 04:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

SSHS
Hi, do you mind if I nominate the Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Scale article for a FA. I want to try and get all of our core articles up to fa status. Bobby122  Contact Me   (C)  02:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I would strongly recommend sending the article to Peer Review, and to take into account the comments in the previous FAC. I would not nominate before then. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 02:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Tropical Depression #14

invest_RENUMBER_al942010_al142010.ren

AL, 14, 2010092100,, BEST, 0, 167N, 320W, 30, 1006, TD

This is official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Very large report for Hurricane Cesar
I just started looking into Spanish sources on Hurricane Cesar and I found an extremely useful one, located at http://www.cne.go.cr/CEDO-CRID/pdf/spa/doc894/doc894.htm. It's a 138 page document (way too large for Google Translate) and is scanned so it can't easily be copy/pasted into the translate box. We'll probably need Titoxd's help with this one, unless you're quite fluent in Spanish. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This is going to be a biggie....found another large report (again in Spanish) for Cesar... http://www.crid.or.cr/digitalizacion/pdf/spa/doc8393/doc8393.htm Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That is MASSIVE... Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 16:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Told you....Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * o.O Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hink, three person FA? (Granted Tito agrees to help out) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Go for FA! :) Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Random (ish) side note: I'm not touching Hurricane Stan's article...just found a 2.32 MB report (in Spanish) on its effects in Guatemala. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, wasn't the activity in Guatemala related to the non-tropical disturbance? (not directly related to Stan) Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Beats me...I can't read Spanish :P Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:46, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Titoxd, just found ANOTHER massive report for Cesar http://cidbimena.desastres.hn/docum/crid/Abril2004/pdf/spa/doc8401/doc8401.htm Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:46, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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I tried to fix all your comments. I am sorry that you find it well below the standards. If you find any other issues I will try to fix them promptly. Nergaal (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I have addressed all the other issues you have listed. Nergaal (talk) 21:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)