User talk:Huyie

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Bus templates
Good to see someone is out there keeping the bus articles up to date - just don't forget to throw type in some kind of edit summary so everyone else knows what you are up to. Wongm (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * BTW - do you need any help with Template:Metlink Display. I presume it will 'look up' the route number details in the subtemplates that it references? Wongm (talk) 23:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I will need assistance with Template:Metlink Via as I'm not sure of the best way to essentially sum up locations along the route based on Template:TL Route Via. I originally thought that I should sum it up by suburbs, but upon second thought, major type generators, such as Shopping Centres, Railway Stations, Universities, Landmarks would be the better option. I'm working on the Template:Metlink Op Hours to sum up the hours of operations. I will probably need some help with Template:Metlink Type to sum up the type of service the bus route such as Smartbus (700), Trainlink (796), Nightrider (970), Express (350), Limited Stops (901?), Loop (671), All Stops (? routes that run on a frequent interval, 15 mins or better? on weekdays), Local (704?, those that fall outside this?) etc. For the All Stops and Local categories, this is where I think the issue will be, as they aren't that kind to summarise the intervals. Would a different system be needed for this e.g. Primary (those running 15 mins are better), Secondary (30 mins are better) and Tertiary (60 mins are better) be more appropriate? TIA --Huyie (talk) 03:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just one thing to be careful of, we need to avoid the No original research guidelines - in other words we are pretty much stuck using the Metlink classifications and not make up our own (like the Primary / Secondary / Tertiary). For the 'via' you could just have a list of places along the way, you don't want it to be too long, as you end up just retyping what the official site has.


 * I have filled up the empty templates with some filler text just for now. I have also made the template conditional, so if there is not next in the 'via' or 'Op Hours' option then the section is not displayed. 'service' defaults to 'Bus'. Wongm (talk) 04:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestions and assistance. At least now the bus operators page are consistent, with at least destination and origin set, and makes it easier to change to the route information when all the new bus contracts looks like taking place start of next year. I'll just try to keep the 'via' section as simple as possible (at least for the routes I'm familiar with). --Huyie (talk) 05:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I just remembered Template:MetlinkBus exists as well - it outputs the Metlink webpage URLs - hopefully we can work out a way to roll this into the whole thing as well. With a new 'front end' template and few more sub-templates for more data, you could move List of Melbourne bus routes to use the same data as well. Wongm (talk) 05:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeh I was going to plan to eventually integrate Template:MetlinkBus which isn't getting used as it was intended to be (it was a mess trying to edit when I touched it, for new routes, hence I haven't bothered since). I was going to wait until the Beta Timetables which were recently introduced to be finalised first which is greatly detailed in PDF format, before even considering mucking around with integrating links, otherwise there will be another case of broken hyperlinks. Just need to make sure there is a decent, usable Template:Metlink Display set up first, so that we can try to redo the layout for List of Melbourne bus routes again, so that when the new bus contracts take place start of 2009 (with all the current contracts expire end of 2008), things are easily manageable. --Huyie (talk) 06:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Melbourne bus routes
Hello- I have undone your edits to the above article on the basis that it introduced a lot of broken links via the template(s) (304, 305 + many). Some time ago this article had all links to Metlink correct, because I sorted out the template. (even today's 902 service) and most suburb, railway stations use the single entry template. I did think the multi-nested dayglo orange version had pretty much been deprecated and replaced by the simpler version, although it does still exist on a handful of articles that no-one has bothered to change. I think this would need a discussion before any change from its current version. I dont have any particular interest in this article, so no revert war coming on. Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 04:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)).


 * Was planning to through all the broken links for the Metlink templates after the introduction of the new Wyndham services to avoid confusion. The time it takes to clean up the MetlinkBus template is too time consuming when I went through the list a couple of years ago, hence why I don't bother touching it anymore. Links easily get superseded, and when routes disappear, but more so when they modified with route extensions, these easily get dismissed with outdated information. (e.g. 735) --Huyie (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Since noticed that a lot of the problem is that Metlink create a new URL when there is a change to a service, so 304, 305 are incorrect on our current version(Crusoe8181 (talk) 11:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)).

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Displaying bus schedules in articles
I'm a little surprised by the extensive lists of bus schedules in Melbourne articles. They seem excessively detailed in most cases, as if the idea is to provide a bus schedule to potential passengers, the job of the bus company, rather than write an encyclopedia article about it.

I have raised the issue at the Village Pump, here. Please feel free to comment there.

Also, do you have a link to an initial discussing showing the consensus to build these templates in the first place? Thanks. --Kleopatra (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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