User talk:Hwkeyser

Deletion discussion about Marc Rowley
Hello, Hwkeyser,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Elmidae and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Marc Rowley should be deleted. Your comments are welcome over Articles for deletion/Marc Rowley.

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Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Elmidae, nice to meet you too.

I'm not sure how to respond except to say, can you help me understand what's wrong with the page? This was the first page I've made, and I tried to read a lot of the guidelines, but there are a lot of them. I'm not a neutral party, but I wasn't paid for it either. I made it as a gift for a friend and colleague of mine who's been doing some very cool work in AR lately. He didn't provide me with the information, some common colleagues helped with that, and I tried to link it to as many relevant wiki pages as I could find without turning it into a job.

Can you tell me what the grounds are on which you're basing the AFD, and how I can help address or rectify those?

Let me know what you think, I'm open to learning how I can do this better in the future. I have a bunch of pages related to VR advancements I want to make over the next few months, but now I feel a little concerned about starting something that isn't going to be edited but just marked for deletion...

Thanks, - hwkeyser

PS: My apologies if I did this part wrong too. I swear I'm trying. Hwkeyser (talk) 05:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


 * In response to my prior message. I just found your reasoning. It appears mostly due to the cited references on the Pylon Cam and awards. I'm not sure how I rectify the Pylon Cam debate without publishing internal documents. I know a lot of his former R&D team at ESPN and they acknowledge that executives do the interviews about new technology, while the producers and lead R&D personnel still get credit among industry veterans. In this case, I'm curious what you would expect me to link to for something that is often considered just "made by ESPN," when the creator would like to get credit for it after leaving?

Equally, in regards to the awards, it's pretty common for media producers to receive credit for the awards that their shows receive. This is an industry I know pretty well, and marking accolades by program is the standard. Almost never does an individual producer get an award in the TV business; it always goes to the shows. Is there a concern he didn't work on these shows or would it be better if I linked to archives of on-air footage of Marc? ESPN isn't searchable by producer, but I know how to find it if I need to.

LMK, - HK Hwkeyser (talk) 05:31, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Hwkeyser, it would be preferable to move this conversation to the deletion discussion page, where other people interested in the issue are going to get to see it. I'm going to copy the previous section over to Articles for deletion/Marc Rowley for this purpose. Cheers -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)