User talk:Hwy43/Archive 14

This archive page includes discussions that began between January 1, 2022 and December 31, 2022.

Error in Template:Subdivisions of Newfoundland and Labrador
Hi, Hwy43. There's an error in Template:Subdivisions of Newfoundland and Labrador: I've narrowed it down to these lines: ...and adding 4th parms to the "#ifeq" eliminates the error: However, I didn't make the change because I don't understand the function of the Greek letter parms (I'm not an expert template editor :-) Davemck (talk) 23:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Warning: Template:Subdivisions of Newfoundland and Labrador is calling Template:Navbox with more than one value for the "" parameter.
 * = Local service districts (LSDs) and designated places (DPLs)
 * = {{Navbox|child
 * {{#ifeq:{{{LSD/DPL}}}|yes|group8|Νν}} = Local service districts (LSDs) and designated places (DPLs)
 * {{#ifeq:{{{LSD/DPL}}}|yes|list8|Ξξ}} = {{Navbox|child
 * Yikes. Neither am I, {{u|Davemck}}. I am borrowing code from elsewhere. I will try to figure it out. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think {{u|Plastikspork}} resolved everything with these edits. Hwy43 (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Population centres
Do you know when the new census data for population centres will become available? The data is very out-of-date. Rdhoughton (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, population and dwelling counts from the 2021 census will be released by StatCan on February 9, 2022. See this link and click "By Topic" for confirmation of what census data is available when in 2022. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 22:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess I can wait that long for fresh data. Sorry about trying to push through the updated figures.  It’s just frustrating how stale census data can be. Rdhoughton (talk) 22:26, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , imagine how frustrated Americans must feel having to wait 10 years between census results. Not sure if you have read the threads at Talk:List of population centres in Ontario (the link to which I previously included in this edit summary), but based on your edits, I think List of municipalities in Alberta is the article in which your edit attempts were intended. The boundaries of population centres, made up by StatCan, do not necessarily follow actual municipal boundaries. Be assured that, unless I have a sudden life emergency, I will have List of municipalities in Alberta updated with the 2021 census results within 18 hours of them being unveiled by StatCan. I have a semi-automated process that generates the necessary wikicode around the census data. My first priority is to update each individual Alberta municipality article first (within each's Demographics section and infobox), then update List of municipalities in Alberta, then List of designated places in Alberta, then various other Alberta lists such as List of population centres in Alberta, etc. - all using the semi-automated process. I will have the first three priorities done within 18 hours and then do the other lists the following day. In the meantime, since population counts appear to be of interest to you, check out WP:CANPOP to learn about the consensus approach to population counts, estimates, etc. reached by the Canadian WikiProject. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 00:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Updating plan for 2021 census
Hey there, long time since we chatted. I'm wondering if you were planning an automated way to update the lists of municipalities when the census results are released in a few weeks. If not, I can start by manually moving the 2016 population figures to the second column and removing the 2016 population from the density calculation, and keep the template in the talk page until the data is released. I won't do this of course if you have a more efficient plan! Thanks! Mattximus (talk) 01:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I plan to use an automated approach that will be more efficient. It will generate all the necessary code from scratch. Prepping a template with blanks would therefore be throw away effort as I would just overwrite it. After I have the vast set of Alberta articles tackled within the first couple days (as described in the above thread), I will focus on the municipality lists of other provinces. If you grow impatient and don't mind a less efficient approach, I suggest you work backwards by jurisdiction with the least amount of municipalities. i.e. Yukon, NWT, Nunavut, NS, and then PEI. A sandbox would be a better place to do the work so that it doesn't permanently clutter up talk pages. Also be wary of transferring over 2016 results as many municipalities will have revised figures due to intercensal boundary adjustments (especially in PEI). Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks I was thinking you would be planning this. I can then help with updating the lead and other tidying efforts. Mattximus (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just if you are interested: there is someone working on using python (pywikibot tool) and wikidata to add all population census figures in Costa Rica (about 500 districts) from every census in just a few minutes. Conversation here: Talk:Cantons of Costa Rica. As an experiment they tried linking it to Santa Bárbara (canton) infobox. Do you see any potential doing this for Canada? It would be nice to take a few seconds and have all thousands of municipalities infobox page updated instantly...! Mattximus (talk) 16:39, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. It won't take a few seconds because every municipality infobox will have to be edited anyway to call the data from Wikidata (once loaded to Wikidata). Thus, not interested right away for the 2021 census. Maybe during downtime in 2023 or beyond in preparation for the 2026 census. Hwy43 (talk) 09:24, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

the tables for List of municipalities in Alberta are now updated. Could you update the prose accordingly, and also fix any precision errors within the tables arising from my semi-automated wikicode-building regex process? Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 19:21, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, just a note that they done a big reform in IPE, replacing the Island Lots outside of the municipalities by the Fire Districts. As for Wikidata, the populations of municipalities of Alberta and Quebec of 2021 are now uploaded. Fralambert (talk) 20:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * you bet. Heard in advance that StatCan would now be recognizing all of PEI's municipalities. These unincorporated fire districts for the balance of the island were a surprise to me. Surely much better than the previous lot system. If the population counts of municipalities get linked into Wikipedia articles from Wikidata please let me know and supply me with diffs on how such being done to gain a better understanding. Maybe I will learn a new trick. 04:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I used OpenRefine to download the data ( or for exemple). The longest part is reconcile the municipalities with the correct one. For Quebec, Alberta and maybe Newfounland and Labrador, the instance (P31) are clean enough so downloading, but I don't think this is the case for the other provinces/territories. By clean I mean that each type of municipalities have their items (ex:  or ).
 * Finally, I discover that Statcan made a special sheet for the RCM in Quebec ^^. Fralambert (talk) 02:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * So how do these efforts on Wikidata make life easier on its equivalent Wikipedia articles? Hwy43 (talk) 03:55, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * can do this weekend! Mattximus (talk) 03:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

BC and SK tables are updated, so same favour requested there as well. Note that I have yet to unhide the sortbottom rows for the three tables for SK. I will do that after I update them. I am just retiring for the night. Hwy43 (talk) 06:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The text for Alberta is completely updated, and all significant digit errors have been corrected. The only issue is that the citations need updating. I was weary of removing the 2016 citations for fear of breaking the links. Other than that it's done and I will move on to BC and SK next! Mattximus (talk) 18:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

tables for SK, MB, YT, NT, and NU are each now fully complete awaiting the same pass through the prose from you. Hwy43 (talk) 23:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * NB and PE ready for you. Hwy43 (talk) 06:04, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Done AB, MB, BC, NU, YT, NT, NB, PE. Just missing updated citations and the areas of unincorporated areas in the footnote of Nunavut. Will work on the rest this week. Thanks for the updates! Mattximus (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

table for NL now done. Hwy43 (talk) 06:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * As is the table done for NS. Hwy43 (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Pages that are 100% complete: AB, BC, MB, NB, NL, NS, NT, ON, PE, SK, YT, NU. Incomplete: QE. Mattximus (talk) 01:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * what remains with PE, NU, NS, and SK? I will likely tackle single and lower tiers in ON this weekend and end on QC hopefully before the end of the month. is making valiant strides in a non-automated manner in the meantime. Hwy43 (talk) 07:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the acknowledgement@Hwy43 Roncanada (talk) 13:10, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Updating of the text, the citations and decimal corrections remain for the last 5. NU has a special citation issue I need to work on as well. Will try to work on it more soon. Mattximus (talk) 02:57, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for the explanation. ON is now done. I will try to tackle the QC behemoth next. not sure if you were the one that set up the merged cells for back-to-back repeating municipal statuses in the QC list a little with ago. My automated process to build the table with the new census results will not replicate that effort. Merging the cells is really a futile effort as, because it is a sortable table, the merging disappears when readers sort by any column within the table. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

all rows at List of municipalities in Quebec are now updated with the 2021 census results. I will swing back later to update the sub-total and total sortbottom rows, which are temporarily hidden. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 21:21, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Cheers pal Roncanada (talk) 14:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Hwy43. Just picking up on the comments by User:Mattximus about linking the data from wikidata. IMO this is the perfect time to start doing that. The effort to update the infoboxes with new census data is the same effort to change the field to a template calling for the data from wikidata. There are already templates for that or we can create a custom one for Canada. BTW, I don't think you should remove historic census data like this edit. It is obviously easily verifiable. If you doubt the validity, it is better to tag it with. I have been gradually updating this info with and eventually I'll catch up. Thanks. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @P199 Hi, most of the population data of Quebec and all of Alberta are uploaded in Wikidata. As for the other provinces, we have to check if all the instance (P31) are correctly enter, and if all the First Nation communities exist. Fralambert (talk) 15:08, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The only jurisdiction that I have updated infoboxes with 2021 census data so far is Alberta. One edit at each municipality article is all it took. As I understand it, the wikidata approach requires at minimum two edits per municipality – one at its wikidata page and one at its article. That is double the edits. I have yet to be shown or convinced how the wikidata approach is just as efficient let alone more efficient. I asked a question above about how things are made easier that has yet to be answered. Updating the infoboxes for municipalities elsewhere in Canada is on my to do list but low on priority because it does appear there is interest by others, including three people here, in doing the wikidata approach. I invite those interested to show me how it is just as or more efficient. If Quebec's data is loaded at wikidata already, then go for it. I see it has yet to be done at Montreal, which I would expect would be a natural starting point but nothing has happened yet in the nearly two months since the 2021 census data was released. In my recent sweep of Ontario municipality articles, I have been deleting unsourced population counts. I could instead use the for such, but WP:CANPOP applies. The content must be referenced. Now I have also come across some instances where population counts are referenced as  . Linking to other articles is the improper way to source population data let alone anything on Wikipedia. Instead, population figures should be sourced to the actual census webpages or publications that explicitly verify the figures. I could have deleted all census data with these improper references in accordance with WP:CANPOP as well, but this is where I have drawn my line of reasonability for this sweep. Here are links to StatCan's webpages and publications for the 1901 through 2021 censuses. These were used for properly referencing historical population templates for all municipalities across the three territories and PEI recently. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am surprised at your comment that you haven't seen "how the wikidata approach is just as efficient let alone more efficient". A little investment in linking to wikidata has huge dividends. Just look at municipalities in Finland or Philippines for example. The Philippines went through a census in 2020, and once the data was published, it was mass uploaded to wikidata (data can be speedily mass uploaded through spreadsheets I think). No edits were needed in WP at all (neither the infobox or prose) because of the smart links to wikidata. The advantages of linking to wikidata should be obvious... --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 13:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is going to mass upload everything? Who is going to embed the smart links in the infobox? Montreal’s was uploaded (first of two edits). There are five population entries there. No one in two months has done the second required edit (i.e., applied a smart link) to Montreal. The smart link would have to call the correct of the five entries. Meanwhile, one edit’s effort updates land area, population, density, year, ref, and hidden note here. Code is mass generated using formula in spreadsheet for all municipalities’ infoboxes at once. Embedding smart links on ~340 Alberta municipality articles is equal to editing the same articles with the mass generated code from a spreadsheet. Hwy43 (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Another mystery hamlet
Another hamlet that doesn't seem to exist: South Waterhen Lake, Saskatchewan. Unless that's meant to be Waterhen 130. If it is, I'll redirect. If not, I'll prod it. Thoughts? Masterhatch (talk) 00:21, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It exists. It is an organized hamlet in the Rural Municipality of Meadow Lake No. 588. Hwy43 (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not much of a hamlet. Looks like nothing but forest according to the coordinates. I did lots of looking and even my favourite site for finding hard to find places came up empty. South Waterhen Lake Makes me wonder if it really is a place or was a place an no longer is. Anyways, Wikipedia is not paper, so I guess it's fine the way it is. Thanks for your help! Masterhatch (talk) 03:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem. Coordinates are likely simply incorrect. Hwy43 (talk) 03:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Interpolated comments
Hey, we've got a great collaboration going with the AB Municipalities template. One request: please don't interpolate your talk page response into the middle of a previous comment of mine, just put it at the end, after the signature, otherwise it's hard to see who wrote what when. Also, it throws me off if we're both responding in close proximity, and I happen to get an edit conflict and don't see your message at first, because it isn't at the end. Thanks! There's a round of changes coming tomorrow and the next day probably (maybe a few days, because I'll be out for a couple), to swap everything over to the one "type" param instead of four (or nine), but everything will be much cleaner (and shorter) afterward, and also more modifiable. Your idea of the multi-type values "rural" or "urban" is a very good addition to this design, and fits well with the one-type-param thing. Will look at it all in the coming days. If things continue as they have (no guarantees, because I have other things on my plate), then in a week to ten days, this should be done and releasable. Mathglot (talk) 08:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I did that because the volume of comments requires a volume of replies and to this point it has been overwhelming and unwieldy to respond. In recognition that such was not ideal, I indicated such in my first of ten reply here, indicating that I would inform via edit summary when done. Per this edit summary, I am now done replying. If you want to de-interpolate now that I am done, all good. I needed this process to remain organized while catching up with the detail and attention deserved. This is sure shaping up nicely. I get out of unexpected covid isolation protocol tomorrow so that slowdown period I previously cautioned about for me will likely become more real on Monday. Hwy43 (talk) 08:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

A washing machine for you
(Not to say that I have encountered no good SPIs since the inaugural awarding, just that this is the second time I've thought to give it.) --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 08:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * you will never know just how impactful receiving the above was to me after two difficult days outside of the wiki. You made my day. I will cherish this and relish in the satisfaction I feel. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 19:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your hard work updating population data. Much appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:43, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * no problem. This time around I may just sweep across all Canadian municipalities and designated places to update population and dwelling counts. Good thing I have five years before the next set of results come out because it could take that long. Cheers, 05:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

2021 census updates wording
We should use 2021 Canadian census—it's the common name and the article title, and it's also more specific than "Census of Population". But most importantly, you keep writing "[City X] recorded a population of N." No, it really didn't, since it's a city and can't record anything. The city isn't doing the census: Statistics Canada is. A population of N was maybe recorded for it (i.e. City X) but really a more appropriate way of stating it would be "City X's population was N" or "The population of City X was recorded as N", "was determined to be N", etc. I wouldn't normally say anything and I appreciate your updates, but you are going through a large number of articles using this same format and it would be nice not to have to re-edit them all to address these issues. —Joeyconnick (talk) 08:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry... also forgot to mention you are using which is for table sorting. A better template would be, which has fmt which can be set to "commas". —Joeyconnick (talk) 08:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for the tip. The way I regex the code for these paragraphs it will be a pain in the ass to make sure fmt isn’t applied for digits less than 1,000, so I may code it in regardless as there will be no harm. I see where you are coming from on the "recorded" piece. Though more exciting than "had" it isn’t technically correct. I haven’t landed on how I will adjust yet but your suggestions are helpful. I have ruled out the possessive version (City X's) though as my regex coding will erroneously create instances like "Blackfalds's". I am not prepared to avoid the official name of Canada's census. Canada 2016 Census was moved to 2016 Canadian census with an edit summary of "common name" with out any discussion or evidence to support such claim. The true common name of Canada's five-year census program is indiscernible because there are so many variants (StatCan hasn’t helped given it has rebranded the official name of the census so many times over the years). When indiscernible, use of the official name is acceptable and shouldn’t warrant usage controversy. What was really at play during that bold move was consistency among census articles on English Wikipedia. Nearly all of them have since been moved over to "YYYY Country census" or "YYYY Countryian census". I will amend my approach as outlined above as I implement in Atlantic Canada and then in ON, SK, and QC. In the meantime, I have put on my to do list to circle back and fix AB, BC, MB, NT, NU, and YT. Right now these things aren't breaking Wikipedia and are non-detrimental. Hwy43 (talk) 05:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Heck, among all the variants out there, I bet "YYYY census" would likely be ruled the "common name" of Canada’s five-year census event, but such would require disambiguation from others performed elsewhere in the world the same year. i.e., 2021 census (Canada). To work around this, the WP community started using the country name as the disambiguator. The format when I started was Canada 2021 Census. It has since evolved into 2021 Canadian census. Hwy43 (talk) 06:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

List of population centres in Ontario
Hi hi; I noticed the List of population centres in Ontario mistakenly included the number of population centres in the 2021 census for Saskatchewan. I've gone ahead and changed it to read "Ontario" and 300 instead of 63; I'm not quite sure if I've used the StatsCan website correctly since that would seem to be 14 more population centres than were included in the 2016 census, so I thought I would drop a note here in case I did something silly. --Ejl389 (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Holy crap! Thank you,, for letting me know of my error. I will circle back in the next couple of days. Hwy43 (talk) 22:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

L H Vashon, Dr Carl Smith
Dear Hwy43, I'm currently investigating the disappearance of L H Vashon, or Lucy Vashon. I was wondering where you heard of the expedition to Bathurst inlet. Were you the one who made this edit? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.240.28.201 (talk) 19:23, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No. Hwy43 (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

TFL notification – March 2022
Hi, Hwy43. I'm just posting to let you know that List of municipalities in New Brunswick – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 21. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That's awesome! Hwy43 is a real Barnstar... TheKevlar 23:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkevlar (talk • contribs)

Thanks
Thanks for all your work updating Canadian census results. Meters (talk) 23:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem. This and much more remains. Hwy43 (talk) 00:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Census
You are doing a lot of excellent work in updating the census figures, something I'm lazy to do. Some tips. Instead of using $2,864$ use 2,846 which is quicker to type and doesn't add bloat to the article especially when using $632$ Using cvt instead saves on having to add |abbr=on. Plus if you are using km2 the you don't need to include the sqmi. Those are just suggestions to speed up. The main thing is the infobox. You aren't changing it to 2021 and thus leave an orphaned reference to 2016 in the article. See here where you removed the two references and the bot had to restore here. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 05:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi . Appreciate the tips. I am a fan of continuous improvement. The way I mass build the wikicode from data tables downloaded from StatCan (using concatenation formulae in Excel), I can’t get Excel to force the "thousands" comma, when applicable, in the final wikicode. Surely there is a workaround if I get off my own lazy ass and simply Google search for a solution. I will investigate, and implement cvt as well, before I entertain the behemoth that is Quebec with over 1,100 municipalities (last of the 13 Ps/Ts left in Canada to do). I will also investigate and implement before I circle back to improve what I have previously done for MB, BC, and AB (see them listed in my ambitious 2021 census to do list). Since the quantity of articles in northern Canada is small, I will gladly circle back to those a third time once solved. With the quantities of municipality articles in some remaining provinces high (particularly SK, ON, and NL), I can’t promise I will circle back to those but will keep in mind for when the 2026 census results are released in early 2027. With respect to infoboxes, another pass for that is also on my to do list. There is a faction keen on using wikidata instead (see above), so I am hoping someone steps up. If no one does I will pass through as originally planned. Fortunately some article watchers are seeing my paragraph additions and updating the infobox, the population history template (if in use), or both (e.g., shout out to as an example). Such is greatly appreciated for reducing my load downstream. As for the orphaned refs, the bot automatically restores them so I let it do what it was programmed to do. If I do everything at once – add/update the Demographics section, update the infobox, update the population history template, AND do ref maintenance that a bot will take care of anyway – my efforts to tackle the ambitious to do list will be greatly slowed and I may never get through it. Certainly I would not be as far along as I am in my progress to date. Sizeable chunks are the way to go for us volunteers, unless WP is hiring (then a career change might be in order). Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 06:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Excel concatenation formulae adjusted to force comma delimiters thereby avoiding nts/val templates and replace the convert template with the cvt template. See implementation here. Thanks again. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 20:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Watchlist
Take McGarry Township off your watchlist if you are tired of it. Or have Meters guarantee mutual destruction by nuking it all. 2605:B100:D34:2E29:C936:82F7:47DC:606F (talk) 08:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Edits to Leduc County page
Good morning, I see the edits I made yesterday to the Leduc County Wikipedia page were rejected. I'm new to making edits on Wikipedia, but wanted to update this page on behalf of the municipality to ensure it is accurate. If you are able to assist, I've relisted some of the edits and the supporting references below. -The flag image is not accurate. -The current list of localities aligns more with our subdivisions; however, the current list is not exhaustive -- a complete list is located on our land ownership map available here: -The localities should be updated to reflect the following: Glen Park, Michigan Centre and St. Francis -Nisku can be removed from the list of hamlets. -The list of Councillors is incorrect. Our mayor is correct as Tanni Doblanko, but the list of councillors is as follows Thank you, 207.229.37.114 (talk) 16:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Rick Smith
 * Kelly-Lynn Lewis
 * Kelly Vandenberghe
 * Larry Wanchuk
 * Glenn Belozer
 * Ray Scobie


 * Hello Leduc County rep. I will address each in the numbered list below.
 * Flag image: I am not an expert on that. I will try to point you in the right direction on how to fix in a later message.
 * Localities: StatCan is our source for localities. See here. I don’t know why they have more in their list and the County has less in its list.
 * Nisku: Municipal Affairs is our source for hamlets. See it listed as a hamlet here. I suggest the County email Municipal Affairs requesting that Nisku’s hamlet designation be removed from this Municipal Codes publication by using the contact information here. Once Municipal Affairs updates its Municipal Codes to exclude Nisku, then we can drop it from this article as well. While you are at it, I would suggest asking Municipal Affairs to recognize East Vistas as a hamlet. It meets the criteria in the MGA. In speaking with Municipal Affairs in the past, s.59(2)(c) of the MGA states a hamlet must have land “used for non-residential purposes”. Non-residential is not defined for the purpose of hamlet designation in the MGA and the purpose of this criterion wasn’t to limit non-residential to just commercial and industrial. The purpose of this and the other hamlet designation criteria was to prevent requests to designate country residential subdivisions and manufactured home parks as hamlets. Regardless, other uses such as public utility, municipal reserve, and institutional are also non-residential in the absence of an official definition for hamlet designation purposes.
 * Council: I can update that.
 * Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 19:35, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your detailed reply! I very much appreciate the information/recommendations you shared and your assistance in making updates. 207.229.37.114 (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Be on the look out
Recommend you keep all the provinces on your watchlist. It's the only way, to keep them consistent. GoodDay (talk) 19:50, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


 * They are. Hwy43 (talk) 20:39, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI re: this, see this. Also, what has changed in the last 8 years since this? Hwy43 (talk) 09:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do remember her past problems, concerning infoboxes. Had briefly considered going to either WP:AN or WP:ANI, about her latest behaviour around the topic. But, figured maybe an RFC would settle the matter & nobody would need to be topic-banned. GoodDay (talk) 15:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Will this RfC even be closed? I have been waiting nearly 11 months for Wikipedia talk:Piped link to close. Or did I do something wrong when initiating that RfC? Is it because I didn't add to it like you did here? Hwy43 (talk) 22:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Clovermoss submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * Hwy43 is an active Wikipedia editor that improves articles about Canada and does a lot of other great work all around the encyclopedia. He has contributed to 10 featured lists about municipalities and has created several maps about highways and communities. He has been enthusiastically improving articles since he first started editing in 2009, totaling more than 108,000 edits, more than 80,000 of which have been dedicated to mainspace. I think Hwy43 deserves recognition outside of WikiProject Canada, so I'm nominating him for Editor of the Week. This award was seconded by User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz

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Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   12:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you,, , and . Much appreciated. Hwy43 (talk) 07:50, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Man, you're quick!
I was just about to start cleaning up Evergreen Beach and ya beat me to it. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 18:13, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Whoops! Coincidental as I just logged in and checked my watchlist for first time today. How aggravating is this? The RM itself isn’t consistent. Hwy43 (talk) 18:19, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of Evergreen Beach, do you have a link to Stats Can that's not dead? (Like the one in the article is) Masterhatch (talk) 18:17, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * It will be listed in this lengthy table. Hwy43 (talk) 18:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

When I saw that the IP changed the lead, I did some googling and saw both names used but "Beach" seemed more common. Anyways, thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 18:33, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Map of Municipalities in Québec
Very nice map on the List of municipalities in Quebec page! I just wanted to know if there were a possibility to insert Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine into it? By the way, I also wanted to notice that there is a small corection needed with Saint-Antonin now a City. Continue the great work. Roncanada (talk) 19:59, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Roncanada. I recall it being excluded at the time of creation based on the configuration of the frame. Now that I have seen the map at Municipal history of Quebec I can make an adjustment to the frame as early as this weekend. Hwy43 (talk) 02:09, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Familiar?
Does this editor seem like they're familiar? User:Kyleung05. Canterbury Tail talk 01:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Light rail, streetcar, and subway edits seem familiar. No evidence of anti-Toronto/pro-Ottawa sentiments (yet), condescending edit summaries (yet), or edits at other obvious stomping grounds (yet). Following user’s talk page. Hwy43 (talk) 03:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah that’s why I’m not completely sure. However they’re on the path to blocking anyway just for being disruptive. Canterbury Tail talk 11:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

"Forth, Alberta" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Mayor update
It's come to my attention that the Mayor of the Summer Village of Whispering Hills is identified as Dennis Irving. Elections were held this past July in the S.V..Dennis Irving has stepped down and the new mayor elected is Curtis Schoepp. More info on our website. MyWhisperingHills.com Please take a moment and update Thank you in advance 2001:56A:F9CB:1700:B05C:D4:21DE:C159 (talk) 23:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Outram, Saskatchewan
Good morning, I ran into this Outram, Saskatchewan article and noticed it wasn't in List of communities in Saskatchewan. I was going to add it, but realised I wasn't too sure which communities list it should be placed under. You've got a lot more hands on with these small towns than I do, which list would you put it under? Thanks in advance for your help. Masterhatch (talk) 10:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * You could probably add to List of ghost towns in Saskatchewan. Hwy43 (talk) 05:09, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Parrsboro
Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermann Gran (talk • contribs) 09:25, 30 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Because you didn’t post your new thread at the bottom of the talk page but more importantly you deleted the talk page's banner template in the process. Specifically you deleted this code:
 * I will do you a favour by re-adding your thread to the proper location on the talk page. As for your recent addition on the actual article, you need to include a reference (aka inline citation) with your additions using one or more reliable sources. For assistance, because I am largely an inactive editor at the moment due to lack of free time, please ask a question at the WP:TEAHOUSE. Be mindful however that although your relative is of course notable to you and your fellow family members, such trivia might not be notable enough for inclusion on an encyclopedia that is meant for readers around the world. Hwy43 (talk) 22:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I will do you a favour by re-adding your thread to the proper location on the talk page. As for your recent addition on the actual article, you need to include a reference (aka inline citation) with your additions using one or more reliable sources. For assistance, because I am largely an inactive editor at the moment due to lack of free time, please ask a question at the WP:TEAHOUSE. Be mindful however that although your relative is of course notable to you and your fellow family members, such trivia might not be notable enough for inclusion on an encyclopedia that is meant for readers around the world. Hwy43 (talk) 22:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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Suggestions for Canadian municipalities
You have made a truly masterly contribution with the lists of Canadian municipalities. I would like to make the following two suggestions. These are just an engineer's pet peeves which you may certainly ignore if you wish. Yours aye, Buaidh  talk e-mail 00:04, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Right-justifying all numeric values in a table makes it much easier to read and compare values.
 * 2) The land area values should include their km2 suffixes since the population density values use the /km2 suffixes.


 * These are reasonable suggestions. I will process the first. For the second I will instead remove the /km2 suffixes in favour of applying (/km2) suffixes to the column headers so that neither column has units (I see the template enables such). May do the same for the % suffixes in the Change columns if its template enables such as well. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 04:08, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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List of municipalities in Quebec
The modification I made: (Saint-Édmond-de-Grantham becoming a regular municipality and Saint-Georges-de-Clarenceville changing its name to simply Clarenceville) are already written as is in the "Répertoire des municipalités – Nombre de municipalités : 1108". Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing. Witch is already the reference for the "status" column. I thought that reference already covered the authenticity of the change and that another reference just the confirm the new status would be unnecessary. . Roncanada (talk) 03:57, 21 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Arg. I failed to check if the pre-existing source was dynamic. Please accept my apologies. Hwy43 (talk) 10:24, 24 December 2022 (UTC)