User talk:Hyacinth/Words of wisdom from someone who's actually SANE

__NONEWSECTIONLINK__ I'm so sure he's ever going to see this, down at the bottom of this LONG-ASS page. I mean, who'd read so much about a random stranger on the net? Don't ask me! Important issues, concerns, and questions should be placed somewhere where they will be noticed and any confusion quickly cleared up. He and I will not be able to discuss the Elliott issue, since you seem to think you're master of HIS page, who can post messages to him, and what they can say. I do not need to be mother hen-ed at a public resource internet site to which I've contributed parts of hundreds of pages. Deal with your own problems before butting into those that don't concern you in the least! BTW, how nice of you to place this important issue in the "Wikihate" section! I don't care that Grace Kelly called Hyacinth a faggot or whatever else you all seem to think people here wanna read about!


 * I placed that stuff in that section because it was the last place I had written comments to him. Mike H 19:44, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)

But, how's he supposed to see it down here? The page is full of irrelevant conversations that are already over and done with. This Missy Elliott issue requires a simple answer, and then he can make whatever changes he wants to his pages. Why the important thing that needs to be resolved should be buried under tons of unimportant conversation is something I do not understand.


 * Hi, don't worry about Hyacinth seeing this, regular users know their talk pages well and check them often - Hyacinth is very unlikely to miss anything added here. It really is the best place to put your question. -- sannse (talk) 20:14, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi Mr or Mrs Anon


 * As sannse says, there's no risk of Hyacinth missing something put on his user talk page. When a user gets a new message on their talk page, they see a notice at the top of the screen saying "you have new messages". Upon seeing this, they can check the bottom of their talk page (it's convention here to put new things at the bottom of talk pages) to see what the message is. So if you add something to a user's talk page, there's no chance of them missing it. They don't get such a notice when something new is added to the user page, so they could miss something put there. For more information, please see Talk page and User page. --Camembert

All I know is that my User:Talk page was just begun today and I'm already losing track of who said what when and where the newest comments are going. Wouldn't it be easier (not to mention less stressing on the server) if we all cleaned out the crap from our own pages every once in a while? For example, on this page, why should something from 2003 be all the way up at the top? It's clearly no longer a pressing issue. If this IS indeed some sort of Wikipedia folkway, it goes against convention on countless websites, newsgroups, message boards, chatrooms, IM's, etc, etc, where the newest information appears first, in the most visually obvious place (in the case of boards, at the TOP; in the case of scrolling chatrooms and IM's, at the bottom, with irrelevant text continuously scrolling up and away) and where the older, outdated conversations are eventually removed, either due to scrolling off the top of the page or being "bumped" off the edge of the message board/newsgroup reader. Whoever started the Wiki system of communication did it bass-ackwards, IMO.

BTW, when someone is responding to something specific that's already been written, I've always understood that the norm was to reply directly underneath, so that the conversation can be read logically from one comment to the next. However, I was bringing a new (and far more important) topic to Hyacinth's attention, so it would only make sense to post it somewhere he'd see it. I'd assume that he'd notice his user page had been changed eventually, or a friend would have let him know, and he'd find out why it was changed. Why can we all edit other people's user pages if they're not meant to communicate messages TO the user? This page looks more like a chatroom about things not related to the encyclopedia than a place where issues are resolved. Wiki needs a better system.


 * Welcome. What is your name, or rather, what should I call you? Who are you? Please follow the link to "Welcome" provided and find the appropriate place to ask the questions you are asking, and stop being rude on my talk page. See also: Wikipedia etiquette. Thanks.

I'm not being rude! You and your buddy Mike are Wiki stalker assholes, apparently! Whatever "etiquette" you BELIEVE people should show each other here, obviously you don't follow your own advice!


 * In answer to your question, I ask you, why would anyone add any information into an encyclopedia? For this is really what you're asking me. If you'd please be more specific (why wouldn't I?), I'm sure I could provide some sort of reason. Hyacinth 06:45, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Stop being such a tool! You're not cute! If I wanted that crap, I'd talk to my 5-year-old cousin! Grow the fuck up!