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Your edits to Pak-Age-Car aren't the most productive edits I've ever come across. See Template talk:Unbulleted list for one thing. Obviously not a very important issue, but changing all of these seems like pointless work and makes reading the code harder in my opinion. Also, Template:Convert consistently uses ... undefined with a lower case, if that's any indication of how we ought to work. Same goes for all the other capitalizations. If there is some official decision supporting these changes somewhere I apologize, and again, not super important one way or the other.

However, some of your edits go far beyond "copy-editing." When you changed "distinct" to "distinctive" you changed the meaning of the sentence, making it no longer true. The rubber gaskets are distinct (as in plainly visible), but they are absolutely not distinctive, rather they are quite commonplace. Lastly, you changed "There are period spare parts brochures which list the Pak-Age-Car as having been available until 1946" to "Period spare parts brochures list the Pak-Age-Car as having been available until 1946". Your edit implies that the car was available until 1946. The original edit makes mention of these few sources which state otherwise while siding with the majority, which say production ended in 1941.  Mr.choppers &#124;  ✎  04:50, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You're not going to get any sympathy here. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 10:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I am not asking for "sympathy", I am telling you that you changed the meaning of several sentences and need to rethink your methods a bit. I also asked you a polite question about spelling out "ubl" and wherefore the need of capitalizing template names? Not sure what the need for your tone is.  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  01:57, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I still think that a response is in order.  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  03:05, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Please
You do a lot of useful stuff but please, stop fiddling with capitalization of template names and bypassing redirects. I realize you think it's helpful, or improves efficiency, but it's not and it doesn't. So please. I know I'm not the first to have approached you about this. If you think there are reasons for what you're doing not understood by the rest of us, please explain those reasons calmly. EEng 08:59, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * It is a harmless side-effect of a Python script that semi-automates article edits. To simplify find-and-replace operations, the first letter of any template the script finds is capitalised, rather than having to perform multiple comparisons with various permutations of capitalisation and spelling. To not capitalize would needlessly increase the script's memory footprint, make it half as fast and somewhat more prone to programming errors. It is harmless, as template names in Wikimedia are capitalised by default anyway and it may reduce server computational overhead slightly. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 23:52, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * What is this find-and-replace operation being carried out on template names? Can you give a diff exemplifying the function served (beyond the capitalization, which as you note is only a side effect) by this find-and-replaced? EEng 03:40, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The use of a script does not justify bad editing behavior. Unless you're authorized to run a bot, you are responsible for every edit you make, as if you made it manually. If a script or other automation tool does not allow you to exhibit proper editing behavior the solution is to either fix the script or stop using it. It doesn't matter that proper editing behavior makes the script less efficient. What matters is how your edits affect the encyclopedia and other editors.--Srleffler (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Welcome back, Hydrargyrum, and thank you for your recent work on Kenny Rogers. I did notice, however, that as part of this cleanup there were a few examples of bypassing redirects and capitalizing template names as well (for instance, here, as well as on another article here). Were these edits performed with your script as well, or were they done manually? You took your wikibreak before you had a chance to explain what the purpose of your script was, but now that you are back, I was hoping you could enlighten us. Courtesy ping to and  in case they are interested in the answer. Thank you.  C Thomas3   (talk) 18:03, 22 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The purpose of my script is to make tedious edits and syntax cleanups automatic or semi-automatic. When it runs, it cleans up everything in the article, not just an instance or two as "minor" edits.  Now, tell me, why are you, EEng and Srleffler engaged in wikistalking?  You know, this is against Wikipedia policy and I would greatly appreciate if you would stop it. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 18:18, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What has been said above has merit; (semi)automated scripts with side effects should be corrected, especially when concerns have been raised. WP:HOUNDING is a serious accusation that needs to be backed with evidence and reported at the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I would also recommend being aware of WP:BOOMERANG (this is not a comment as to if it would apply, just a general FYI to consider when making reports). I would also urge you to review WP:BOTPOL as this activity sounds like it would probably fall under it. Running an unauthorized bot is also a serious issue. -- The SandDoctor Talk 18:46, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I never said the script was automated. As a matter of fact, it is called a "computer program", not a "script" and it runs external to Wikipedia. Can any of you guys read and comprehend simple ENGLISH? — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 19:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:Wikilawyering. Experienced editors are trying to help you avoid trouble and contribute meaningfully. Please listen. EEng 19:19, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't actually matter whether the script is fully automated or whether it runs external to Wikipedia. Since you can read and comprehend simple English, please review Bot policy, which states clearly right at the top that it "covers the operation of all bots and automated scripts used to provide automation of Wikipedia edits, whether completely automated, higher speed, or simply assisting human editors in their own work". --Srleffler (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hydrargyrum, let me just respond in general to the complains listed above. You have had multiple editors concerned with your computer program/script/"piece of code that pointlessly replaces lowercase template calls with uppercase template calls". It doesn't matter what you call it, people have issue with it. Now, the sensible thing here is to acknowledge that they might actually have a point, and at the very least discuss the matter in a calm and civil matter. I was asked to comment, but here are my thoughts (as both admin and BAG)
 * Replacing example with Example is a pointless exercise, and one that traditionally the Wikipedia Community as a whole has frowned upon, especially when edits like that are the only edits that happen on a page. Now, some people combine these sorts of minor/cosmetic edits with "non-minor" edits and it's usually not a big deal, but you've been called out on it by multiple people, so it clearly has become an issue. This seems like a silly hill to die on. Primefac (talk) 19:45, 22 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Why have you continued this activity despite the above discussion and being previously blocked for logged out editing to avoid scrutiny in continuing to do these actions? It has been fairly firmly established that these are outside of current practice and, by your own admission, policy  and should not be done. -- The SandDoctor  Talk 01:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "... continued this activity ... to avoid scrutiny ..."? I have no idea what you're talking about.  Explain. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 03:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Jesus Christ, you're even fucking with others' posts right here in the middle of this very goddamn discussion! Can't you control yourself? EEng</b> 14:54, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * — I'll remind you, this is my talk page, not an article talk page. I will do anything I want here, including making corrections and deleting any vulgarities you write here. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 15:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, WP:TPO says you shouldn't modify other's talk page comments (even on your own page) unless you are doing wholesale removal, fixing syntax, or other "readability" issues. If I want t to be used insead of tl, then leave it be. Primefac (talk) 15:47, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Edits such as this one is why you got blocked. Changing all of the color codes to all caps - why? Adding spaces to "  " - why? Removing spaces from citation templates - why? All just pointless work which benefits no one. Stop using your script (or computer program) or turn off these pointless functions.   Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  15:54, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * — Please study HTML, XHTML and CSS syntax before you criticize. Moreover, capitalization changes can happen when case-insensitive global search-and-replace operations are performed, and this is true with any text editor, such as Notepad, Notepad++, gedit, even the optional source editor built into Wikipedia; you should have known that. You seem to have a fixation on what the vast majority of Wikipedia editors consider non-issues. Now, I'm asking you to stop it. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 15:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

sorry
something went wrong when i edited your page a few minutes ago. it looks like sombody fixed it already. I figured it out so never mind.2600:6C52:6300:36D4:901D:6826:BDB7:544F (talk) 04:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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