User talk:Hywel Dyer

Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs
I've reverted your edit to Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs because your changes are not supported by a source. Please engage at Talk:Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs. --RexxS (talk) 15:56, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

January 2019
Hello, I'm RexxS. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. RexxS (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

You are incorrect. Look at Wikipedia's own page of governing bodies for the sport in Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_governing_bodies_in_Wales

Hywel Dyer (talk) 16:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source. That entry in the list is unsourced and I've challenged it. --RexxS (talk) 16:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a reliable source. That entry in the list is unsourced and I've challenged it. --RexxS (talk) 16:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Also please provide a reliable reference that the Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs is the governing body Hywel Dyer (talk) 16:07, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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I'm still awaiting your proof that Welsh Association of Sub Aqua Clubs is the governing body

Hywel Dyer (talk) 16:28, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * https://web.archive.org/web/20140713110022/http://uksport.gov.uk/publications/sporting-activities-and-governing-bodies-recognised-by-the-sports-councils - see the first reference in the article. Now, I'm still waiting for your proof that WASAC no longer exists. --RexxS (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Strange how that link doesn't workHywel Dyer (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes it does work. The original has been in the article since November 2012. Strange that it was perfectly acceptable for over six years, and you're the only one who can't get it to work. Is that simply because it doesn't suit your unsubstantiated theory? Fortunately WP:Verifiability only requires that somebody is able to verify the information. I'm still waiting for your proof that WASAC no longer exists. --RexxS (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

As stated WASAC dissolved in 2016. It's not about an unsubstantiated theory it's about correcting erroneous information to stop people wasting their timeHywel Dyer (talk) 16:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * As stated by you. You're not a reliable source. Now stop wasting my time and state the source you're using for your claim. --RexxS (talk) 17:17, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

The only time you're wasting is your own. I have the official dissolution document in front of me & I'm currently awaiting a document from Sport Wales as I know you won't accept that. You don't live in Wales so have no idea of the problems this matter has caused. WASAC was an amateur association run by well meaning amateurs but ultimately unable to progress anything. As a result of this Welsh clubs were unable to obtain grants whilst English clubs did. How do I know this? I was the National Diving Officer between 2004 & 2007! You referring to a list of governing bodies from 2012 is like me referring to a general election result from 1997 then claiming that Labour are in power!Hywel Dyer (talk) 18:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC) Also due to my registration being under 4 days old I can't upload files. send me an email address & I'll forward it for your satisfactionHywel Dyer (talk) 18:25, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That's fine. If you have the documents then we can use them. I'll happily revert myself and restore your edits as soon as there's a reliable source available. I hope you understand that we have reliable sources that show Labour lost the election in 2010, so it's really not the same scenario until we also have reliable sources for WASAC's dissolution. Did it never get mentioned in Diver mag or something similar? --RexxS (talk) 19:04, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've given your account 'confirmed' status, so you should now be able to upload and do most things an autoconfirmed user can. Use  to notify me if you run into any problems. --RexxS (talk) 21:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've given your account 'confirmed' status, so you should now be able to upload and do most things an autoconfirmed user can. Use  to notify me if you run into any problems. --RexxS (talk) 21:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

You've beaten me. I have confirmation from Sport Wales but I've given up trying to link it to the page. Correction now on the page, not pretty but it's there.Hywel Dyer (talk) 16:01, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not a competition. Wikipedia requires that its content is supported by reliable sources, and if you'd seen as many vandals and hoaxes as I have over the years, you'd understand my insistence on having verifiable sourcing. Thank you for persisting and eventually managing to correct the article. --RexxS (talk) 17:59, 11 January 2019 (UTC)