User talk:I.new.around.here

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 Sincerely, Quisqualis (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC)   [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Quisqualis&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Welcome_to_Wikipedia/user-talk_preload (Leave me a message)]

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March 2019
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Help me! re page Steven Strauss
Hi - I am very new here, and might just be a little confused or have made a mistake. I seem to have gotten into a bit of a convoluted situation. On the page Steven Strauss User:Avaya keeps deleting all of what are (IMO) normal quality secondary source material (Strauss being interviewed, cited, or quoted by NYTimes, CNN, CNBC, Guardian, CBS News, etc). According to reliable sources Strauss has a Ph.D. from Yale, and has been on the faculty of two major universities, but Avaya1 keeps deleting the description of Strauss as an academic.

While deleting secondary sources, Avaya1 had added his own description of what Strauss is known for/has done, but does not cite any secondary sources. For example, On the page Avaya1 has stated that Strauss worked for 5 years for McKinsey, while it is clear that Strauss worked for McKinsey I don't see anything on the page that supports the claim of 5 years - and even if true I am not clear why it is notable? Avaya1 has added a section on Strauss's politics with a quote about Israel, Strauss is not known for his opinions on Israel (I checked the interviews/sources he is known/cited/interviewed for his work on economic development and technology - all of which Avaya1 keeps deleting).

Please see the Talk page for Strauss for a longer list of my concerns. This has been going on for awhile, e.g. -- I think we are now up to about the fifth time that Avaya1 has deleted secondary sources from the page and added back his material Another more experienced editor has also suggested to Avaya1 that he not being adding things to the page unless they are reliably sourced, preferably from secondary sources, and IMO suggested the Israel stuff does not belong on the page

It appears from the Talk page and edit history, that Avaya's explanations for his behavior are:
 * 1) Sources such as CBC, CNN, CNBC, etc are (in this context) puffery/peacockery/not-encyclopedic
 * 2) that the other people who edited the page have COI issues, and Avaya1 has stated I am a sock puppet.
 * 3) I have made extensive comments on the talk page (since I am new at this it was helpful for my thinking to do this in detail), Avaya1 has not engaged or responded to my content questions, except to reiterate his COI issues).
 * 4) I am concerned Avaya1 may not have a neutral point of view

I have also raised these issues at the Teahouse, see above on my Talk Page for the archived version of the advice I received. The advice was helpful, but has not changed anything.

Any suggestions for next steps?

I.new.around.here (talk) 14:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I recommend discussing any proposed changes on the talk page of the article, ignoring any personal accusations, clarifying strictly that you have absolutely no connection to Steven Strauss (or, if you have, then clarifying this as soon and clearly as possible), and -- if really necessary after a fact-based discussion -- having a look at Dispute resolution, specifically Third opinion. If you would like me to invite other users to the discussion, feel free to request me to do so neutrally by leaving me a short message ("could you invite X to the discussion at Y") on my talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * At a glance, the sources used in the "long" version of the page were to a large degree not independet but rather Strauss' own writigs or interviews with Strauss. No matter where such sources are published, they are not the content an encyclopedia article should be based on - rather, we need what others, independently, have reported on Strauss. Regarding the specific sources you mentioned above:
 * CBC: Interviews, not independent.
 * CNN: Trivial passing mention that doesn't cover Strauss in any detail.
 * CNBC: Interviews, not independent.
 * So yes, when an encyclopedia article is turned into "Strauss on Strauss", that gives the impression of puffery. Huon (talk) 00:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Biographies of living people
~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggesting a username change
You may freely ignore this advice, but I personally would recommend:


 * Using Special:GlobalRenameRequest to request a username that is suitable for permanent use, instead of keeping one that clearly implies a temporary state.
 * Not explicitly mentioning that you are new when making a comment on a talk page, because it should not matter and becomes less correct every time it is mentioned.

Thank you very much for your consideration. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Christine Lu for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Christine Lu is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Christine Lu until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 04:55, 25 April 2019 (UTC)