User talk:IEDNlab

Additions of The IE·DNlab Project Links (Panorama by Thorsten Kuttig) http://.360cities.net
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 * Please review--Hu12 (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Thorsten, I'm glad you're interested in sharing your work. However, the way to really do that is to upload images to Wikimedia Commons, which hosts the free images that are used on Wikipedia. (For information on what we mean by "free" see here. It looks like the licensing at 360panorama is not compatible with ours though, but you would certainly be able to upload any images that haven't been published there. But we will not be able to have links to your work; this isn't a place to promote yourself, even if you're not making money from it. (On the other hand, donating quality images to Wikimedia Commons might be a good way to get your name out there, since our license requires users to give credit to the photographer. :) Does that all make sense? Danger High voltage! 18:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Danger, thx for your reply.

At first: I don´t know, if I´m doing something wrong, while editing these pages right now, so please excuse;) (I´m totally new, to Wiki) Well...I can understand all points you mentioned, but I don´t understand, why 360cities.net is recommending, to put external links inside Wiki, if it´s not compatible. I´m pretty sure, that 360cities isn´t unreliable, as this service hosts all google earth 360 panoramas (?!)

Second point is, that it wouldn´t be a problem to put my images to Wikimedia Commons, but these images would need an application to view them as a panoVR...is Wikimedia able to handle those images? Third thing is, that I didn´t used and didn´t want a link to my works, but more to the works that are hosted by 360cities. Otherwise I would have linked to my homepage ;) Fourth point is, that I found tons of Wikipedia articles, where external links pointed to other commercial services like Tourist Informations, Hotels, Image-Libraries etc.

For example:

Waimea Canyon State Park - Accounts and photos of extreme hikes within Waimea Canyon - leads to a photo-page Waikiki - Waikiki links at the Open Directory Project - leads to Hotels, etc. Star Wars Movies - ext. links leads to Youtube Videos.

So, again...I don´t want to promote myself (or...not really, but it comes with it somehow, when I share pictures;), I just want to verify, that one can see, that those images belong to a person, instead of Wiki (think about facebook, who means that all images belong to them, just because I posted them there) Even 360cities asked me one time, to remove my logo off the panoramas, which I declined as 1000nds of users used their logos. I don´t know anything about the reason, they just said: it looks better (äähmm....sorry???)

But I don´t want to make a big discussion out of it, I just need to understand, how to handle my images here in the right way to don´t collide with any guidelines, but to make sure, that my images are mine and not the ones from Wikipedia. You guys have tons to read and it´s not always easy to understand all that stuff;) cheers. --IEDNlab (talk) 19:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you're saying, probably because I'm not very familiar with 360cities or 360 panoramas or anything like that. (I just "work" here!) But as to your first thing, don't worry, we were all new once. Second, I have no clue how/whether we deal with the kind of images that you were linking to. You'd have to ask the folk at Commons; they're really the file/image experts. Third, I'm not really sure what you mean. Is it that you want to link specifically to the 360cities page for each image and not just have the image on Wikipedia (assuming that that's possible)?
 * Fourth, yeah, I know, it's not supposed to happen, but there are more people adding links than people checking them, so we get a lot of stuff that shouldn't be here that accumulates. Just think of it this way: there are probably hundreds of people who have taken awesome photos of Waikiki. How should we editors decide what goes in the link section, since we can't have a link to all hundred galleries/flikr pages/whatever? The Open Directory is actually one way we get around that, since then we can have just one link. You might look into adding your pages to that project. (I'm not familiar with how they work at all, so you might be able to and you might not. I can understand your concern that you get credit (I think that's what you mean, correct me if I'm wrong).
 * The way we deal with image credits here/at Commons is pretty simple. Every image has it's own page like this where the photographer's name is and where all the info about that image is. You can get to a file page by clicking on any picture. So we don't own any of the images, we just host them here, like Facebook. I can understand if you don't like that situation–I suppose a lot of people would think that Wikipedia took the pictures or something–but that's the way it works here. The people at Commons will probably be able to answer any questions better than I can. Here is their help desk. Danger High voltage! 20:09, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * PS. I know that you're here in good faith. I just want to know that you aren't going to continue adding links before I unblock you. You're welcome to do pretty much anything else. Danger High voltage! 20:12, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. thx for explaining me all the things in detail, that´s very rare and I appreciate it! Regarding the 360cities thingy, I will contact those guys and ask them about this linking/relinking with Wiki (because now it´s getting strange to me;) and I will contact the guys at the Commons, how to deal with my images. Be sure, I won´t post any links or whatever (to be honest, at the moment this has been the only reason for being here). But to go further, I have to know exactly what is allowed and what not.

cheers, Thorsten --84.164.12.212 (talk) 01:07, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool beans. I'm going to decline your request, just to get it off the queue. If the folk at Commons help you find a way to donate images or if you'd like to do some other sort of editing, just open another request the same way you did the first, or email me. Good luck! (Cool work, btw. The resolution... my computer malfunctioned and did some sort of crazy zoom in that made me sick, but damn if I don't know what the pebbles around the Mauna Kea Observatory look like now.) Danger High voltage! 01:39, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks:)...maybe interesting for you guys, this information I found on 360cities.net ... just take a look: http://help.360cities.net/wikipedia/how-to-behave-on-wikipedia see you --84.164.12.212 (talk) 01:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)