User talk:IGC037190370

/* The Azov Battalion page falsely labels them of being Nazi, neo-Nazi group - Azov denies this, so the labels are accusatory, not factual */ new section
5-22-22

In light of Russia's active war on Ukraine, I'm putting together an urgent re-evaluation of the factualness, accuracy, or justification of using the identity labels of Nazi or neo-Nazi when referring to this group.

They are not a registered Nazi group, and they deny being a Nazi group in every way. That makes these labels "accusatory", not fact. All of the supporting evidence for calling them this is other media personnel misusing the term, as well as some ignorance about the use of Swastikas in European military culture from the Medieval ages onward, plus logical fallacies like "guilty by association" with a small handful of big-name people who did self-identify with one of the political terms. But it is not accurate to identify the group itself as a political group, let alone a Nazi group. And military Battalions can't self-identify with any ideology, they are owned by the Military.

Russian propaganda has made a very drastic connection between this group being Nazi, and the justification of killing innocent Ukrainian people. It is our moral, humanitarian responsibility to treat these labels as assignments of "guilt" - The Azov Battalion is innocent until proven guilty. None of the evidence proves guilt, especially since they deny being one.

Naziism is not a generic thing - It's a very specific political party ideology, just like any other political party, such as "Libertarian". The Azov Battalion (regiment) has never been a political group of any kind - ever. All of the political labels being tossed about, such as Nationalist, Nazi, neo-Nazi, Fascist, or Socialist, are referring to a few individuals who self-identified with one of these labels. In no way was the Azov group ever a political-ideological entity.

I will add more to this conversation when I return. I assume I'm the only one that sees this conversation, I'm new to Wikipedia contributing and I haven't had time to read all of the instructions. But this situation is urgent. That's why I've made somewhere I can come back to over and over until I can send this case to the administrator of the Azov page, OR get permission from someone else to make a new one.