User talk:IIlIlIl

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pennington Family (April 24)
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Dan arndt (talk) 03:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Should be fixed. Thanks! IIlIlIl (talk) 08:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Muncaster castle
I have reverted your edits to Muncaster castle because you have deleted referenced material (particularly the bit about the artworks stored there during WW2) and have added unreferenced material. You could help yourself by providing an edit summary when you make changes as then other editors could see what you are trying to do.

I appreciate that nobody likes being reverted, but it happens to all editors – so please don't be discouraged. In my view, it's generally better to get started in Wikipedia in smaller steps. ThoughtIdRetired TIR 07:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I will change it back as many times as I have to. Cheers :). IIlIlIl (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * "Sir John Frecheville Ramsden, 6th Baronet discussed proposed modifications to the castle with Edwin Lutyens from 1916, but nothing came of these; Lutyens did design the Muncaster War Memorial, constructed in 1922, on a commission from Ramsden." was the only thing deleted as it pairs in historical context to the added sourced material. If you want to debate it, YOU are showing how ignorant you are. Make sure you get your claim right and know your history. Cheers. :) IIlIlIl (talk) 08:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You absolutely may not change it back as many times as you have to. That is edit-warring, and it will get you blocked. Please instead discuss the changes you're making that others are objecting to on the article's talk page. Valereee (talk) 14:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * And nor can you touch my edits just because you want to. I did my research, do yours. You can assume whatever you want but tell me not to... be quiet. IIlIlIl (talk) 19:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Please stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, as you did at Wikipedia:Teahouse, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You can do what you want, I literally have infinite accounts. You crying because I held someone accountable says more about you. Cope and seethe. Nonetheless, someone came towards me with attitude and ignorance and I matched them and corrected them. Simple. IIlIlIl (talk) 19:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Also the bitter cold irony coming from this is wild. Be quiet. IIlIlIl (talk) 19:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)



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Your own admin are breaching rules by checking IPs as noted on my page. To be a sock, you have to have mal intent. None of that applies. I am not disrupting a Wikipedia page by adding information, and citing it (when it has little content, and the content is has needs sourced). We are talking about maybe 24 hours of editing recently, so let's have perspective and not delude ourselves. -

 Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive. ([ block log] • [ active blocks] • [ global blocks] • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • [ abuse filter log] • [ creation log] • change block settings • [ unblock] • [ checkuser] ([ log]) )

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, you should read the guide to appealing blocks, then contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. Please note that there could be appeals to the unblock ticket request system that have been declined leading to the post of this notice. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

"Hiding such edits from your edit history is a legitimate use for having a second account." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_anonymous#:~:text=As%20an%20editor%20on%20Wikipedia,Remaining%20anonymous%20is%20your%20right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IIlIlIl (talk • contribs)

Discussion
IIlIlIl, I'm willing to discuss this with you, as I think you are actually trying to improve the articles you're interested in, I find your explanation of the first account completely believable, and based on this edit and other behaviors, it seems like you might be young. Which means you may have the capacity to mature. And you're also very new, which means you don't know what you don't know. We can work with that, but it's up to you whether we'll give you that chance.

You're going to have to figure out how to work here. No one is in charge, and we're all volunteers with limited time. We work collaboratively, which means your behavior toward other editors is crucial. We have a steep learning curve, and to have any chance not to be seen as disruptive, you're going to have to start learning instead of immediately jumping to the assumption that anyone who is disagreeing with you is in the wrong. When multiple highly-experienced editors are telling you that it's you who are in the wrong, you need to listen.

When you say things like I will change it back as many times as I have to and And nor can you touch my edits just because you want to, you are telling us you intend to edit-war.

When you say things like I literally have infinite accounts, you are telling us that you intend to sock.

When you say things like we can keep doing this, you're tellling us that you don't care whether you're wasting other editors' time.

We don't have time to waste trying to read your mind; we're going to take you at your word.

I recommend that you delete the current unblock request -- it could get your talk page access removed -- and let's talk. Valereee (talk) 11:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pennington Family (July 1)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 06:12, 1 July 2024 (UTC)