User talk:IJReid/Google Books trick

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Talk page for my Google books trick, not sure if there are any templates I need to put up or what. IJReid discuss 02:16, 18 August 2016 (UTC)


 * That's an excellent start; as you say, somewhat wall-of-text, but I grokked it with ease and was able to find the right bits of googlebooks to do it for real. Thank you. The essence, as you say, is to construct as persuasive and learned an argument as possible for the book being PD, which will tend to revolve around being able to point to the applicable law, and the facts which make that law applicable - place of publication, date of publication, date of author death, evidence of lack of renewal of copyright, &c. We might work on providing some cut & pasteable wording for common situations - UK old books, US old books, US recent but not copyright-renewed books - with perhaps useful pointers to wikipedia and national government copyright resources (e.g. in the UK, to the prevailing copyright act). It's possible that a less whimsical version of the advice could be put together, with a more sober title - Google Books Copyright Review - (which seems a shame, really). Then we need to find a place or two from which to link to it. I'm not minded to start that effort tonight, but I'll return in the next few days. I think I'll spend a little time starting the liberation of some books. T'other thing we could do is start a page with a table logging books for which requests have been made, if only as another resource we can point people to, and a useful locus for bragging. Insofar as Google sponsors the Google Data Liberation Front, we might wish to consider flying this whole contraption under a Google Books Copyright Liberation Front banner. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

My first attempt
Would you consider making this fully viewable, please. Evidence it is in the public domain is:

Old Lahore: Reminiscences of a Resident: - published in Lahore (now Pakistan) in 1924 (then British India), becomes PD on: - life+70 years (if UK law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_Kingdom ) - life+60 (if Indian law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_India ) - life+50 (if Pakistan law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_Pakistan )

Henry Raynor Goulding died 1934 (reference: Kipling Society, Kipling Journal, September 1984 - http://www.kiplingjournal.com/textfiles/KJ231.txt )

Thomas Henry Thornton died in 1913 (http://www.jstor.org/stable/25189058, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Thomas_Henry_Thornton)

Second copy at https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PpE2SwAACAAJ

Other Thornton books that might be made viewable: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mHpCAAAAIAAJ and https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T5BCAAAAIAAJ

Thanks.


 * That was a success. I exchanged a few emails with the googlebooks team in course of them releasing this book. They say
 * "We would be happy to review any publication on Google Books to see if we can make it available for full view. For the purposes of tracking these issues and adequately performing our review in a timely fashion, we ask that you please submit the books as individual cases though our Help Center HERE. This helps ensure our ability to proceed in the most efficient way possible. No research is needed on your part."
 * That makes it slightly easier - no need to search inside the book, and on the face of it, no need to provide evidence. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool. Now three books have been liberated. IJReid  discuss 21:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Only 129,864,878 to go, then!  E Eng  23:18, 25 August 2016 (UTC)