User talk:ITBF

to-do list
 * Próspero Cahuantzi
 * Bertrand Clark
 * interesting image formating at Percy Glading / John/Eleanor Rykener
 * James Matthews (ship)
 * Daaga
 * Recollections of Slavery by a Runaway Slave
 * Frē Ṣeyon
 * Marilyn Heldman
 * James Garraway - Dominica
 * Tarra Bobby

DYK for Donald Mackintosh (shooter)
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DYK for SS Petriana
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DYK for Richard Grenfell Thomas
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DYK for Herbert Payne
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DYK for Francis Hagai
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Your draft article, Draft:Poona emerald field


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Clarrie Fallon moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Clarrie Fallon, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel 5969  TT me 12:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Your recent edit to Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918
Hello, Your recent reversion stated the reason for the reversion as "refer the text of the act which bans undue influence and treating". The 1962 amendment had nothing to do with treating i.e. bribery, manipulation or other inducement to vote a certain way in an election. The existing 1918-1946 Act already had provisions for treating that governed all enrolled voters, included the limited number of indigenous enrolments (enrolled as a consequence of miltary service and other narrow circumstances). As far as treating went, all Australians were held to the same law before and after the 1962 Act. See sections 156 to 158 of the Act here

The 1962 Act was entirely concerned with enrolment of indigenous Australians who had previously been excluded from enrolment. The 1962 Act gave indigenous Australians the right to enrol to vote but at the same time added an offence of inducing indigenous Australians to enrol to vote. There was no law against inducing non-indigenous Australians to enrol to vote. Multiple historians have characterised this as "it was an offence to encourage indigenous Australians to enrol to vote". I sourced one historian, Dr Blake Singley, and here's another from an Australian Government website - https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/right-vote "The Commonwealth Electoral Act was amended in 1962 to give all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander adults the right to vote in federal elections ... The new Act also made encouraging Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander adults to enrol an offence. This unusual situation remained in effect until 1984 when voting was made compulsory for all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander adults in line with the rest of the nation" If you revert the reversion, I'll add the second source with a suitable quote. Stuart hc (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Stuart hc, see the actual text of the act here: http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/num_act/cea1962311962260/. S4 bans bribery of Indigenous voters, S5 bans treating of Indigenous voters, and s6 and s7 ban undue influence against Indigenous voters. These are carbon copies of the principal act which bans the same for non-Indigenous voters: https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C1918A00027. e.g. s156 relating to bribery. Omitting this context misrepresents the act. ITBF (talk) 10:21, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Your statements seem to equate "vote" and "enrol" - they are very different things. Enrolment is where an eligible person shows proof of name, age and residence to get their name placed on the electoral roll, an administrative list held by the federal electoral office. Enrolment cannot occur during an election (after "writs are issued" in the terminology of the Electoral Act) i.e. after the annoucement of an election and before the election is over, a period that can last three months. The enrolment list is only opened again after the election is over. Voting is where someone whose name has been previously placed on the enrolment list attends a polling place on the day of the election to cast their vote in secret (or votes by postal ballot when allowed which is also a secret vote). If you disagee, please cite a source that states "vote" and "enrol" can be considered equivalent in the Australian electoral system.
 * The 1962 amendment makes no provision against voting, as all the provisions against bribery and undue influence for voting were already coverd by the 1918-1949 Act as I already stated above with the reference to sections 156 to 158 (and covered both indigenous and non-indigenous voters equally).
 * The 1962 amendment only make provisions against bribery, undue influence, inducement etc for enrolments of indigenous Australians who are not enrolled. For example
 * "5. Section one hundred and fifty-seven of the Principal Act is amended by adding at the end thereof the words 'or the supply of meat, drink, entertainment or transport with a view to influencing enrolment, or refraining from enrolment, as an elector by an aboriginal native of Australia'"
 * Your statement "These are carbon copies of the principal act which bans the same for non-Indigenous voters" is wrong for two reasons:
 * The 1918-1949 Act's provisions against bribery and undue influence is universal - it applies to all Australian voters including indigenous voters. The 1918-1949 Act does not limit these provisions to non-indigenous voters. If you disagree, please quote the text of the 1918-1949 Act which states it is limited to non-indigenous voters.
 * The new 1962 amendments to sections 156 through 158 are not "carbon copies" since they make no mention of "vote" or "voting" - they are concerned only with enrolments. They introduce new offences against bribery, undue influence and inducement (encouragement) merely for enrolment. There was (and has never been) any provision against enrolment for non-indigenous Australians.
 * Stuart hc (talk) 07:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've undone the reversion as there was no response to my requests above for sources that contradict the sources I quoted regarding the questions of 'vote' and 'enrol'. As a separate edit I've also added an extra source and quotations in the article as discussed above. Stuart hc (talk) 02:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Mabel Freer
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DYK for Paul Freeman (communist)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Danish people of Paraguayan descent


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Could you help me to wikify this article from wikinews in English from title end 42--Jusaset (talk) 07:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Rodger Page
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DYK for Barcroft Boake (poet)
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Usage of image in Big John Dodo article

 * Just wanted to reply to the revert of my deletion of the sculpture image. It's not my opinion that it does not meet non-free content criteria.  I'm only reacting to what is listed on the image page.  It will be problematic for the DYK review especially that it is not in wikimedia commons.  Sculptures are treated differently than other artwork.  I've encountered this same problem previously and had pictures of sculptures removed.  Willing to discuss further if you like.  Dwkaminski (talk) 19:10, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Dwkaminski - thanks for starting the DYK review. I probably should have dropped you a line instead of just reverting - I think the issue is that I originally uploaded a higher-resolution image, which was then reduced by a bot. The bot automatically tags the older (higher-res) version of the file as needing speedy deletion. So the issue isn't with the image itself not meeting fair use criteria, it's just that you can't have a higher-res image hosted on Wikipedia. The tag should disappear in a couple days once the older version is deleted. ITBF (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that is the issue. Take a look at When to use the PD-Art tag - section 3 "This does not apply to photographs of 3D works of art".  Either way, the image should be in Wikimedia Commons, not wikipedia.  Recommend to remove from article. Dwkaminski (talk) 11:54, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

AIDC
I feel a bit guilty; someone has given me credit for the excellent work you did on the AIDC page. See my talk page. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:50, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks haha. Hate to say it, but probably one of the driest articles I've ever written. It just kept popping up in sources, so thought it needed more than a redirect. ITBF (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Big John Dodo
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Anna Burke
Hi there, I’m working through the Good Article process for Anna Burke (Talk:Anna Burke/GA1), I was wondering if you knew when that image was from? My understanding is that it’s from 2008 as the website it’s from says the information is from 2008. GraziePrego (talk) 01:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't say for certain, but I would suggest it's from much earlier in her career - compare this video of Burke presiding as deputy speaker from 2008 where she is visibly older than the photo and has a different hair colour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKF1Xjw_nt4. The website was last updated 2008 but they don't specify the dates photos were taken. ITBF (talk) 02:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I made sure to give the cardboard Kevin incident a mention in the article :)
 * I agree about the photo- my suspicion is then that it's from her first election in 1998 but there's no information to say for sure. GraziePrego (talk) 03:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Good haha! I often just use the caption "undated photo" in instances like that, but if it's in the infobox it doesn't necessarily need a caption. ITBF (talk) 03:46, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Andrew Bartlett
Hi You can't add unreferenced sources in a WP:BLP. A source is needed for every sentence.  scope_creep Talk  11:01, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The stuff hasn't been sourced since 2016 when it was put. It is well past the date since it's needed to be removed.   scope_creep Talk  11:04, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * User:scope_creep you reverted my edit adding a source, and the existing content you deleted has three sources already. You can delete unsourced content, but please check what you're actually removing. ITBF (talk) 11:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I will take a look at it. Two seconds.   scope_creep Talk  11:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, your right. Thanks for adding sources. That is ideal.   scope_creep Talk  11:26, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
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And happy holidays!!

Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 03:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries - thanks to the original uploader User:Hansmuller! There's a couple more in commons:Category:Inauguration of William Richard Tolbert, 20th President of Liberia, 1976, but not quite sure where/if they fit in. ITBF (talk) 05:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Edit war
I made a discussion. You didn't. And yet you mark me as edit warring? Seriously. Take it to the talk page. I've dealt with every single one of your points. You don't understand the LoC site; you're 100% wrong about what the photograph's original colours are, and you didn't bother to check if a crop of the sepia image existed.

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Possible split
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DYK for George Henry Jenkins
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Thomas Fiaschi
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A barnstar for you!

 * P.S. I added a link to Archibald John Shaw (Australia's "wireless priest") in the see also of Father Coughlin (an American "radio priest"). Cheers. jengod (talk) 15:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, appreciate it! Yes the connection between Catholic priests and the early days of radio is an interesting one, I came across a few other Australian examples while looking into Shaw. ITBF (talk) 10:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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