User talk:I Am Bob the VI/Archives/March 24 2009

Please stop!
Please don't keep putting helpme templates on other users' talk pages! Thanks. --  Chzz  ►  18:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Please stop, or your account will be blocked. When you place a helpme, we respond to answer the questions. You should not ask for help on other users' talk pages - ask on your own.

If you don't need help, do not place the template.

Thanks, --  Chzz  ►  18:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Helpme moved from User_talk:Thendral_Muthusami
Hi there, what are you looking for help with? --  Chzz  ►  18:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

adding a new page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I Am Bob the VI (talk • contribs) 18:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * See your first article. If you need any further help, please ask again, or maybe chat to us on IRC. --  Chzz  ►  18:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Helpme moved from User_talk:RevAntonio
Hi, what do you need help with? --  Chzz  ►  18:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

how do I keep my page form bing deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by I Am Bob the VI (talk • contribs) 18:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

What page are you having problems with? --  Chzz  ►  18:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when.  Chzz  ►  18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Other users talk pages
The reason I've asked you to stop is, it is bad wikiquette to put a help request on the page of another user. It's confusing, and causes a lot of unnecessary work. Please don't 'experiment' with the helpme template.

When you put the template on your page, an automatic program tells me, and lots of other people, that help has been requested. We then try to help people.

I hope you understand why it's a bit annoying if we see help requests on lots of user pages, and the requests are not really from those users.

Please look through some of the help info I've given above; if you really do need help on something specific, put a helpme on this page.

Thanks, --  Chzz  ►  18:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:HaHelp
Template:HaHelp has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.  APK  How you durrin?  19:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:HaHelp
A tag has been placed on Template:HaHelp, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.  APK  How you durrin?  19:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you're serious about editing constructively please start by testing your editing skills in the Sandbox. Thanks Tonywalton Talk 19:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.  Chzz  ►  20:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing.  APK  How you durrin?  20:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy because your account is being used only for vandalism. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You received several warnings, and a significant amount of guidance as to how to edit wikipedia. You have posted the correct unblock template. I will not unblock you, but will not argue if an uninvolved admin chooses to do so. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You need to put an template, apologising, and explaining why your account should be unblocked. You will have to show us that you will not continue your disruptive editing - ie inappropriate use of helpme, editing of other users' talk pages, etc. Please read back through the warnings that you were given, and read the policies that they are linked to. Do not use the  template; put the unblock notice and wait for a response. Thanks, --   Chzz  ►  20:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd add to the above that you need to bear in mind that what you edit is live. This is not a testbed; edits to articles, talkpages and the like are visible immediately and become part of the encyclopædia. There are various "sandboxes" which, if you are unblocked, you can edit as they are specifically designed as testbeds. People are very willing to help around here, but you need to calm down and stop scribbling over pages. Read the Appealing a block page before you put together an unblock reason. Read WP:FIRST. You could start off practice-editing by removing the inappropriate stuff of this page (but not the unblock template, please). Tonywalton Talk 20:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

...and if you do all of that, we will all help you, including showing you how to create templates, and all kinds of other really great things. So, please, take the time to read what we've all written. --  Chzz  ►  21:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * And, as i have said above, i will absolutely not argue if/when you are unblocked under these terms. I am, indeed, more than happy to help, guide, mentor or adopt you if you wish. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 22:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Let's start again!
OK, let's start again. Firstly, I think you now realize why you were causing problems. I'm happy to accept that you didn't realize that you were actually editing the project itself. And as I said elsewhere often it's a temptation to just go ahead and try things without reading all (or even any) of the relevant documentation. I'll unblock you as Anthony has stated he's happy for this to happen (normally it's taken as a Bad Thing for an admin to unblock someone without asking the admin who blocked them). Remember that being blocked is not intended as a punishment - it's among the last sanctions WP administrators can take to avoid further damage to the project.

I'd advise you to do certain things, though, not in any particular order


 * 1) If you want to try out editing, use the sandbox. Want to know how to get bold, italic, wikilinks? Use the sandbox. Or create a sandbox in your own userspace and use that. I can tell you how, it's very easy!
 * 2) Study how pages are structured if you want to create new ones. There's a Manual of Style for how things generally are done.
 * 3) Get familiar with what WP:V WP:RS, WP:COPYRIGHT and so on are about.

However the mechanics of editing are just part of being a good editor. The basic structure of how we work, what "consensus" is, what WP is all about is in a nutshell here. Please take a look at it. There are conflicting rules (there's even a rule called "Ignore All Rules"). One of the most important things to remember is that there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people editing at any one time and that changes you make are likely to affect what someone else has done. It's up to you whether your changes are an improvement or not (and you've seen what can happen if they consistently are not).

I'll be keeping an eye on your edits for a while (please don't think this is a form of wikihounding as, I think, will others, and don't get too worried if something goes wrong. One of the major policies round here is to assume good faith, that is, assume someone isn't deliberately causing problems unless they've proved otherwise (or at least until they refuse to stop causing problems) and just about all changes can be "reverted" (undone) with a single click (all changes can be undone but sometimes there's a but more to it than just a single click). So if you screw up just revert the change and say why in the edit summary.

I'm unblocking you now. Best of luck! Tonywalton Talk 20:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)