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New PMML Wikipedia people
Brandon started volunteering today. I've also requested 2 student interns for the summer to work on the PMML GLAM. Please say hi to them, when they come online.
 * Sure thing. Thanks for the notice.  My apologies for my absence this year, but my work schedule has prevented me from coming down to the library.  I will be keeping a lookout for them!  Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 15:29, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for showing me up.
Thanks for showing me up in the Teahouse. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * If you want to look at it that way, that's fine. But here's another perspective: other hosts have qualified or provided alternatives to my responses and I chose to see it as providing the editor with other options.  Sometimes I even learn something, or remember something about the 'pedia that I forgot about.  Personally, I thought it'd be helpful to point them in a direction where editors answer questions like that one.  Anyway, it's your call.  I think it's fine to encourage editors to research on their own, too.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 21:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I wasn't saying that was your intent...just how it came across on first glance. Anyway, I offer you a cup of tea, and apologies for coming on too strong. Vjmlhds (talk) 21:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

KFC Original Recipe
How do I contest the deletion of KFC Original Recipe? Farrtj (talk) 20:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind and decided it might be better as a redirect to KFC. See your talk page.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 20:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Jason Healey article
It looks good. The link to the talk should be on the PMML website: http://www.pritzkermilitary.org/whats_on/pritzker-military-presents/jason-healey-fierce-domain/

Article review
Can you help me review this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsleeky (talk • contribs) 04:28, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. What article did you want me to review?  (By the way, don't forget to sign your messages with four tildes like this: ~ )  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 05:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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PMML GLAM Update
It looks like we might have 4 new summer Wikipedians. One is starting today. Two plan on starting in mid June. I am not sure the start date of the last one. Please welcome them if you run into them. TeriEmbrey (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

FairShares Association
I've posted a response about the FairShares Association on the Articles for Deletion talk page. I can't see the article itself to double-check that the references I mention are in the article - they can be added if not already present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roryridleyduff (talk • contribs) 20:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . You can request the article be restored here.  I'd repeat the information you mentioned on the here in your request, and in particular, provide links to the original documents for the peer-reviewed research and documents from the EU Commission.  As I recall, many of the sources were clearly from a wiki maintained by the organization or were written by others.  Wiki content, no matter what it is or who it is written by, is not reliable.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 19:39, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Help with new article
Hello. I wrote a new article because I am helping in a cause I believe in - solving hit and runs. The creator fo the Medina Alert wrote one and didn't follow rules so it got deleted. I am trying to make sure I do the right things. Can you help me? It is The Medina Alert program. I would appreciate any feedback and comments on my article to help it go through. It is a wonderful program and there are people who want to read a concise article about it instead of having to read different newspaper articles. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MedinaAler1 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

JobServer deleted without any discussion
Hello, The JobServer page I created several months ago was marked for deletion by you. I then made several edits to comply with the issues you listed and I left comments/notes in the Talk section of the page describing my changes, but received no followup feedback/discussion from you or anyone else. Then I found the page deleted just recently.

I believe I addressed your initial issues and would kindly ask for the page to be re-instated or let me know what issues remain.

Thanks, Sam Taha

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William P. Levine article
Kyle has been working on the William P. Levine article. Can you take a look at William_P._Levine and let us know what you think? Can you help with a good DYK? TeriEmbrey (talk) 21:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * - Hi Teri, sorry for the delay in my response-- I was out of town the past several days. The article is quite comprehensive.   has the article off to a good start-- it's excellent work.  I'll nominate this to DYK today and make improvements to the article later this week.  Do either of you have any recommendations for hooks?  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 05:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * If we could work in his being one of the first liberators to arrive at Dauchau, that would be good.TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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Jess Porter article
Kyle has been working on the Jess Porter article. But it has recently been tagged for speedy deletion. Can you take a look at the article and the deletion nom? TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this to my attention. The arguments in favor of deletion are fairly strong right now, unfortunately.  I'm going to search for additional sources, but unless there is more information on Cmdr. Porter, I'm afraid there isn't enough significant coverage of him to merit an article at this time.  If you are aware of additional sources not in the article, please provide them in the deletion discussion.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 23:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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Georgism
There is an RfC at Talk:Georgism concerning scope of the article. This is a neutral notification. Collect (talk) 15:38, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Pritzker GLAM stats
I think the bot stopped working, because there is a new version. Can you help in getting it fixed?

Also, the new Wikipedians in Residence created a few articles today: Eleven Days, Charlotte Hatfield, and Carol Reardon. I am sure they would appreciate any advice you wish to give. TeriEmbrey (talk) 20:39, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have a bit of a hectic weekend ahead, but I can take a look at these matters early next week. Great to see new articles!  :)  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 17:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I do not have the skill or know-how to fix the bot, and the person who maintains it,, is out of Internet range until June 19th. The problem has been brought to their attention, so I'm sure it will be addressed on their return.  I've also started to check out the Carol Reardon article, and I'm very happy with its start and hoping we can make some improvements too.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 07:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've also made a few edits to the other articles and left comments with some suggestions on Charlotte Hatfield and Carol Reardon. I also added some additional sources to Eleven Days-- that article can probably use a "reception" section summarizing the feedback from the different reviews.  They're all off to a good start!  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 07:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Jason Healey
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Chicago Wiknic 2014
Do you have any idea about possible date or location for the Chicago Wiknic? I put up on the on the general page that it was "under discussion" and linked to the meetup talk, but it would be great if you could maybe start a Meetup/Chicago 9 with any preliminary details. Keep in mind that the July 6 date thing is only a suggestion, if that is inconvenient to you or the Chicago community, please go with something else.--Pharos (talk) 19:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The Wikipedians at PMML can help you with planning, depending on the date. I will let them know about it. They are usually here on Tuesdays. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:15, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If someone could start the Meetup/Chicago 9 page with preliminary info, that would be great. Currently Chicagoans who see WP:Wiknic on their watchlist might not realize there is a potential local event.--Pharos (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Doing the Wikinic in conjunction with the PMML sounds like an excellent idea. I can get started on this page on the meetup page on Friday this week.  Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 06:17, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for William P. Levine
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Edit-a-Thon
Hey! Teri would like the Wikipedia interns to plan a Edit-a-Thon so we can help the public learn how to edit Wikipedia! At the event, we would be working on WWI and Dissent. I was thinking having it around the Great American Wiknic (so around July 6) that way we would have time to plan and publicize. A possible date would be Saturday, July 12. Let me know if that works for you! SamanthaMes (talk) 13:44, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Great American Wiknic is very much meant as an opportunity to help promote future content-driven events.--Pharos (talk) 04:21, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey! Thanks for your interest in getting the PMML and its staff involved in the Great American Wikinic.  July 12th sounds like a solid date for me.  I'll get a landing page setup similar to WP:Meetup/Chicago 8 soon for the Wikinic.  Also, I'd like to swing by the PMML on a Tuesday sometime to introduce myself to you and the other interns, and see what y'all are working on!  Will some of you be working on the 17th next week?  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 06:25, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'll be at the PMML during the day on the 17th. Thanks for your help! 198.150.95.186 (talk) SamanthaMes (talk) 15:01, 17 June 2014 (UTC) 13:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

"Additional citations for verification" recheck?
Hi, thanks for marking my edits on Taiko no Tatsujin needing "additional citations for verification", which I realized I should be doing better at! I have done Inner notecharts with as many official Namco sources I can find. I wonder if you could check it bit and see if this is going the right track?

Thanks again! I still have a lot to learn and that mark is really helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigelliusnitrox (talk • contribs) 12:42, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work-- I appreciate you adding all the additional sources to the Inner notecharts section. I'll have to look into this late next week or next weekend, as I'm a little tied up with a few other more immediate projects.  Taiko no Tatsujin is an article on the series as a whole, so naturally, I'd expect there to be some detail on typical gameplay across the games.  One concern I have, however, is that the gameplay discussion is a little heavy compared to other aspects of the series, such as its reception, particularly as much of the gameplay information is unsourced.  It might be good to consider what gameplay information might be excessive.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 16:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for further advice! I now recognize it may be too fancruft-heavy chronicling the rise and fall of all the different features and tidbits. I have since rewritten that section following your comments. --Nigelliusnitrox (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Miss Multiverse page deleted
Greetings Jethro, you have a very nice wikipedia page and profile... congrats!!!

I have a frustrating issue here... I have created the page Miss Multiverse, it was deleted once before about a year ago, i don´t understand why if it has all the right references, no use of promotion, just facts, there are even winners of miss universe that have participated in Miss Multiverse whom have profiles on wikipedia... and its still deleted as if this beauty pageant does not exist.

There are many smaller beauty pageants listed on wikipedia, we are just not able to comprehend why this is happening, it almost feels as if enthusiasts or supporters of other pageants are deleting this one, it takes time to learn how to use wikipedia and frustrating to see someone just come and delete it.

I will appreciate your help enormously, if you would kindly take a look and figure out a solution.

Best regards,

Jose Cuello (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jose. I've read over Talk:Miss Multiverse and the article itself.  When I started editing Wikipedia, it wasn't immediately clear to me how to figure out whether a topic was sufficiently notable for inclusion.  But I did learn eventually that using other articles as a basis for comparison wasn't a great way to do so, because anybody can create an article on a topic.  Articles that merely show that the event exists are not really helpful either.  Our notability guidelines on media note that a show is more likely to be notable if the show is nationally broadcast.  It looks like the show appears on Super Canal, which broadcasts nationally to the Dominican Republic and a good portion of the United States.  But it's important to have reliable sources that describe or review the show in some detail.


 * Also, I know it's a bummer when your article gets put up for deletion, but please trust me when I say there's no secret conspiracy from other pageant supporters who are out to get you. These are just editors on Wikipedia making a judgment call, and that's it.    I, JethroBT  drop me a line 16:31, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

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dietary restrictions
I'm a pescetarian, so a fish or veggie option would work best for me at the Wikinic. Nick Number (talk) 14:17, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You got it. We'll certainly have some options outside of the meat-and-cheese standards.  :)  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 18:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Meetup posting
This is a reminder to post the meetup atop WP:CHICAGO and WT:CHICAGO. I think that is where most signups will come from.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 14:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

PMML Announced Literature Award for 2014
PMML announced the Literature Award recipient for 2014 this morning. Here's the link to the announcement on PMML's site: http://www.pritzkermilitary.org/explore/pritzker-literature-award/antony-beevor-2014-pritzker-literature-award-winner/ Articles should appear in the American and British papers in the next few days. Can you help us update the related articles? Antony Beevor's article especially needs updating. TeriEmbrey (talk) 15:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've made some improvements to Antony Beevor in some article clean-up, filling out a bit more about his publications and reputation and adding in some book reviews. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 19:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Nancy Batson Crews?
Do you think this new article Nancy Batson Crews would make a good DYK? TeriEmbrey (talk) 16:52, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Teri. The article looks good at-a-glance, I'll definitely make some improvements to it later today.  Unfortuntely, it's over the DYK time limit for articles which is seven days since it's been posted to the article space, so it would marked ineligible on that basis alone


 * If I might make a suggestion, new articles intended for DYK but might need several days work should start in the user space as a draft until it is finished. Then, they can be moved to the article space and can be found through searches, whereupon the "clock" officially starts for DYK purposes.  For instance, I started Sacred Twenty in my user space under the page User:I JethroBT/Sacred Twenty and then moved the article to the article space (see here).  Editors can create user pages for drafting purposes, so in this case, I could create a page called User:I JethroBT/Nancy Batson Crews or a similar title and work on it as long as I need to.


 * Also, I've come down with a bout of bronchitis, and so I've been reluctant to stop by the library this week to avoid passing anything around. I have started to feel better since yesterday, so I am considering coming to the library tomorrow.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 19:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok! I'll remind everyone about the user spaces/sandbox. Evan started this past week and created two stub WW song articles. He also has one in his sandbox. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:58, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Gemini
Hey dude! This is to inform you that Gemini (2002 Tamil film), the article that you reviewed against WP:GACR and passed, is now a FA! Crazy as it may sound, the article's prose needs more polishing to be FA-worthy. And, I gotta remind you that I ain't a native speaker of English and my vocabulary is pretty average. If you are interested and can spare some time, can you help me in improving the quality of the prose? This is just a request. So, feel free to deny it if you can't. Just lemme know asap if you will be doing it or not, so that I can ask someone else. Thanks. -- Sriram speak up  14:10, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I too agree that the article is only 99% FA-worthy, as the prose needs to look just a little more international in quality. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to see the article is continuing to be improved, I just gave it a quick read. Unfortunately, I can't devote the time to a full review anytime soon; I'm a bit booked up with other editing needs and work outside of Wikipedia.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 16:27, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Never mind. Sorry for the trouble. -- Sriram  speak up  09:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

meetup
I just arrived. Still there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishal (talk • contribs) 13:04, 12 July 2014‎
 * Hey . The event officially went until 3:00 PM, but I had to duck out around 1:00 because I had a performance to be in for the Square Roots festival this afternoon.   and  were running the event with me-- did you get a chance to meet with them to get started?  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 00:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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A Soldier's Rosary
Alex started today and this is his first article. It has a markup issue I can't fix. It also has been nominated for speedy deletion. I have since shown him how to create a sandbox. Can you help fix this article? TeriEmbrey (talk) 20:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for John C. McManus
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To my talk page watchers: WP:Co-op
Hey talk page watchers, just wanted to let you know that the Individual Engagement Grant we are working on, Reimagining Wikipedia Mentorship, finally has a makeshift landing page at WP:Co-op. I've posted an update on our first month's progress. Feel free to check it out, and let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thanks folks. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:04, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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I am not an editor. I need help fixing an erroneous photo.
Thanks in advance for your time.

I was on the Northridge, Los Angeles page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northridge,_Los_Angeles and I noticed that the photo they have at the bottom (under noteworthy residents) depicts the wrong person. I don't even know why the Northridge, Los Angeles page even needs a photo of a completely irrelevant MLB player just because he was from there--perhaps a photo of Jason Collins, the first openly gay NBA player, would be more relevant--but in any case, the photo on the page shows Daniel Nava of the Boston Red Sox, but is labeled Ryan Kalish, formerly of the Boston Red Sox. Daniel Nava, at least according to his page, is from a different place in CA.

I tried to fix this myself but I couldn't even figure out the photo specs and so I edited the caption of the photo to say there was an error in the hopes that someone would fix it, but it just got deleted.

Can you help me take care of this? 23.242.143.92 (talk) 05:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've checked out the issue with the photo, and I agree that there was a mistake made on the identity of the image.  I've removed the image and replaced it with one of Collins per your suggestion.  If you ever come across an issue like that in the future, it's best not to write out the issue directly on the article, but to use the article's talk page instead if you're not sure how to go about fixing it.  Thanks!  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 07:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much! 23.242.143.92 (talk) 02:08, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

John Robinson (aviator) article
Do you think this is DYK worthy? @‎StormBattalion3414 has been working on expanding it out with a biography on Robinson from PMML's collection. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:39, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice work! It looks like the 5x expansion requirement has been met.  There are a few issues that caught my attention:
 * There are only two specific sources for the article, and most of the content is only supported by one of them. It might be good to see if there are one or two more sources used to cite the content.
 * There are a number of tone issues with the writing:
 * The writing seems to be in a narrative style in some places. Article sections should be able to be read on their own without a great deal of contextualization from other sections, so under the section "Ethiopia," opening with But Robinson's life was about to shift course doesn't read very well from an encyclopedic standpoint.
 * Avoid colloquial phrases. Phrases like "was looking for payback" can be replaced with something more formal.
 * The tone can be a little less sensational in some places. I expect to see phrases like Watching that plane take off created Robinson's dream to fly in a novel, not in an encyclopedia.  Other phrases that could use some work are Robinson was determined as ever to get back into the air..., Wanting to prove beyond a doubt that people of African descent can fly..., and ...having never forgotten the flight he witnessed John Moisant conduct in his hometown...  I think these details can be incorporated, but this phrasing will definitely catch the attention of the reviewer.
 * So, in the remaining time, I'd recommend trying to address some of these issues. This book on Robinson can be searched through using Google Books, and this news article from 1935 interviewing Robinson on a bombing at Aduwa might be useful. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 20:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, if you are too busy to make revisions for the DYK deadline on Aug. 1st, I can make these fixes, but please let me know. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 20:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I made a few changes today. Alex will be in again next week, too.  It still needs work though.  Can you work on it a bit? TeriEmbrey (talk) 21:02, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course, I'll work on it later tonight and tomorrow. Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 21:27, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've finished working on the article and have nominated it for a DYK here. I'll be keeping an eye on it.  The article can definitely be expanded a lot with two full biographies, this book, and this LA Times article about Robinson if there is interest in doing so.  By the way, I will be busy in early August with Wikimania, some friends visiting from Japan for a few days, and my work with the Co-op (the mentorship space I am building), and will not be able to devote a lot of time to assisting with article development.  I'll be more fully able to help out later in August.   I, JethroBT  drop me a line 01:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update and all your help! The Co-op sounds exciting.  I discovered Snuggle through it.  I like the idea of Snuggle, but I don't like the fact that my watchlist can be edited through it.  I wish there was a Snuggle lite.  I am interested in hearing how the research progresses. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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"I'm afraid of doing something wrong"
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I've just seen your post on the learning patterns wall at Wikimania. I think it's a great idea. It could be incorporated into welcome messages and training for new editors. Yaris678 (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment! I wish the learning patterns board got a little more filled up at the conference.  It's not directly related, but I am building a mentorship space where I'm hoping that mentors can incorporate this advice into matters like article building and expansion.  Hope you had a lovely conference.  I'm off to go check out the British Museum on my last day here in London.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 10:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Greetings!
Hi, It was a pleasure meeting you at breakfast on my last day at the Thistle for Wikimania. Here is a link to my work on Wiki: GLAM/Metropolitan New York Library Council. If you are ever in NYC let me know and I can probably get you some complementary museum access! Cheers, Dorothy OR drohowa (talk) 15:23, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hey there! You uploaded this, but I'm not entirely sure if you are part of GLAM/Pritzker? Because I'd like to support Pritzker's collaboration with Wikipedia, but the images coming out are very, very low resolution, making it impossible to use them for, for example, featured pictures, which is one of the most neglected ways to promote a topic out there. Anyway, will wait for your response before talking further. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey . Thanks for your interest in our GLAM!  I'm also going to ping the Head Librarian of the Pritzker,, to your message above.  Adam, the short story is that the Pritzker was concerned about releasing high-res images as a part of GLAM work.  One reason cited was because, as a private institution, it earns some level of revenue on providing such scans.  Teri, please elaborate on this as we had this conversation sometime ago and I cannot recall all the details.


 * Teri, this seems like a good a time as any to revisit this issue. I'd actually like to sit down with you sometime to show you other public and private institutions that have provided free, high-resolution images for use on Wikipedia to their own benefit.  Also, while I am appreciative that the library is providing images regardless of their resolution, there are definite benefits on Wikipedia for high-res images, such as being able to extract subjects within an image with good quality for use on other articles, that they are easier to clean-up (there are a number of editors here, like Adam Cuerden, who do excellent image restoration work for the project, such as this image of the Bronte sisters: original, restored), and that, for educational purposes, details in many pieces of artwork (like faces) or photographs (like engravings on a statue) cannot be discerned.  There are definite ways we can make this work in the Pritzker's favor such as having such images released that coincide with special events, talks, and filmings at the library.  Anyway, we will talk about this more soon.  Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 23:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm also a bit worried that, if the Pritzker releases a very low-res copy of an image, they could lose all credit if a higher-res copy became available from any other source. As a specific example, File:Liberty_Bond_-_3.jpg is available in high-res download from http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002722572/ and File:Liberty_Bond_-_11.jpg could be replaced with http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002712337/ - it's entirely possible that the entire gallery of liberty bond posters could end up unused because higher-resolution images exist at  http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=Liberty+bonds&sp=1&st=grid - whether through exact replacement (same poster), or just a similar poster that a better copy is available of. (e.g. if File:Liberty_Bond_-_1.jpg was replaced with http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/00652886/ [Though note that we wouldn't have to:  http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3g08050/ ). If you wanted, I could try to figure out which ones the Library of Congress already makes high-res versions available from, but I suspect it'll be more than half at a quick check.
 * I think, in some ways, providing too-low-resolution images can be counter productive. Speaking personally, as one of Wikipedia's image people, finding a low-res image of something I think might be available in high-res usually causes me to prioritize replacement. I have an entire section on my user page for low-res American Civil War images I'm working to replace with high-res restorations, for instance. It's a slow process - ACW images are often extremely damaged - but finding high-res versions is often trivial. If I was less conscientious about providing the best possible image, and just replaced unrestored low-res with unrestored high-res, I could have them all replaced with high-res versions tomorrow. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all the feedback! I am not in charge of our image holdings at Pritzker.  I'll need to talk to my colleagues to see how we can do more. TeriEmbrey (talk) 13:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries! I only want to help and make sure this collaboration works as well as it can for everyone. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for John Robinson (aviator)
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Update to main PMML article
Can you add the SEAL exhibit to the article? It's now completely online at: pritzkermilitary.org/SEAL and the Chicago Tribune did an article on it recently. TeriEmbrey (talk) 15:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I actually had a few conversations at Wikimania with other Wikipedians-in-Residence and GLAM organizers at other institutions about editing their own institutions' article.  I think attitudes towards that idea have shifted somewhat, particularly for volunteers.  I'll certainly add in information about the SEAL exhibit soon, but I'd like to make more substantial improvements in September.  In the meantime, can you point me to the Tribune article?  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 20:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That is good to know about attitudes.  Here's the link to the Trib's article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-photos-seal-the-unspoken-sacrifice-exhibit-20140418-photogallery.html    Also, I've made headway on some of the image issues.  For the photos from our rare books and music scores, we can upload higher res images.  The WWI and WWII posters will still be low res though. TeriEmbrey (talk) 14:32, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Pinging to the above.  I'm planning to meet with Teri in early September about how best we can access these high res images.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 22:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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question about wikipedia post
you are polymaths?one of these guys is named polymath professor,,,i would lovvve to learn under a real polymath,is there a school for such things? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:1F05:3B2B:2C10:2598:3843:BC0D (talk) 03:16, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I can't speak for  at all, but I'm not dedicated enough to be a polymath even if my interests and hobbies are pretty varied.  You might ask the Professor directly on their talk page!  As for learning from a polymath, I really can't help you there.  Personally, the idea seems fairly broad, so knowing who is and isn't a polymath is more of a "I know it when I see it" rather than something you can test.  If you want to learn from interesting people, I think it's best to just read.  A lot.   I, JethroBT  drop me a line 03:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * People have accused me of being a polymath, though I only have formal training in some of the disciplines in which I'd say I'm an expert. I have doctoral-level education in mathematics, economics, development economics, and law, but I have masters-level education in finance and other topics. But I also have mixtures of formal and informal expertise, such as in linguistics (I've taught two Nilotic languages in which I'm professionally conversant, though I've never taken a formal class in either of those languages, versus having taken extensive formal education in Latin, for instance). I teach in a range of topics at the masters level, primarily in economics, public policy, and other topics. I've also published in a variety of areas, from economics to finance to law and so forth. And published books and book chapters in a variety of areas, from international public policy to philanthropy. I've even written one of those yellow "for dummies" books. :) Polymath Professor (talk) 14:26, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Impersonation?
Hello. I'm here to just let you know that has inserted 'JethroBT (talk) 2:27 am, Today (UTC+9)' into his edit to the Teahouse here. I've warned the user on his talk page, but it might be better to keep an eye on his editing and signing patterns. Regards.  KJ  Discuss? 04:49, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
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Hull House
Since you asked me to bring my camera equipment and it is suppose to rain only in the morning, I might not be there at noon. I might wait until after the rain stops to travel.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks I JethroBT!
Just saying thanks for the great question badge here cause I can't thank your edit. (Says failed try again.) Thanks! To the Teahouse! *Danananananana Batman tune*--DangerousJXD (talk) 21:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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I forgot to mention
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The Fall class of PMML Wikipedians in Residence start this week. TeriEmbrey (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Afternoons next week are good. 2 more Wikipedians in residence will be starting then. TeriEmbrey (talk) 18:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing to the Learning Pattern library!
Hi I JethroBT, I write to you to thank you for contributing a Learning Pattern during Wikimania London. You can now read it online by clicking here. Can you please review the pattern and add more information, if you see fit? For instance, can you share some of your experience at the Tea House? I think this could be related. Thanks again! MCruz (WMF) (talk) 01:55, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, it was kind of fun to be asked to do that on the spot while I was the WMF desk there. I'll see if I can fill it out a bit more this weekend.  Thanks,  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 20:00, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. I've been trying to clean up the backlog of merger proposals and ran into Heroes in Hell (book). Upon reviewing the talk pages, I found that all the books in the Heroes in Hell series were tagged for merger, and according to one of your posts you merged all of them in that same month, backed by a consensus from an Articles For Deletion discussion. However, Heroes in Hell (book) is still a standalone article, still tagged as proposed for merger, and when someone tried turning the article into a redirect on July 6, 2013, he was reverted, and the reverting edit summary claims there was a consensus to keep the article as standalone. Can you straighten this out for me?--NukeofEarl (talk) 18:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * - I wondered if this might come up again. I have to review the discussions, but I believe when I was involved in these discussions some years ago, there was agreement that there was sufficient coverage of the first book in the series to merit its own article, so it was kept on its own.  The rest, however, lacked such coverage and were redirected to the series page.  Would it be helpful for me to point you to that discussion?  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 18:28, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * If you could, that would be appreciated. I'd like to be able to link to it in my edit summary when I remove the "proposed merger" tag.--NukeofEarl (talk) 18:20, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Help with References.
Hello JethroBT, I am a new Wikipedian and I would like to create some article which is not to be found anywhere on internet. So, I can't put in references and this made Wikipedia delete an artice I had created. What to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelsonmand (talk • contribs) 02:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Barton McLean's page
I just wanted you to know that I have extensively revised Barton McLean's page. I have eliminated the laudable language, I have clarified passages that were too vague, I added background material that was written in the Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians to flesh out the first paragraph where there was virtually no information, and I have eliminated one of the references which was incorrect. It reads much better, and I hope that the bar across the top can now be taken off.

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 * Nice work here. As a note, you don't need to ask me to remove a tag even if I put it there.  If you feel like you've addressed the issue sufficiently, it's completely fine to remove it yourself.  One thing that would be really helpful would be to add ISBNs to the books you have listed as references.  You might also consider splitting up his "Life" section into his early education and a separate section on his work / music production.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 18:33, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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Teahouse for Allen
Hi Jethro, it's Allen. As I was invited to teahouse, I might be able to be a teahouse host but not a guest. And experienced about I'm helping out on Wikipedia making the encyclopedia better. -- Allen  (talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me) 18:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Allen. My opinion here has not changed.  I acknowledge that you have some experience from editing Wikia, and that you want to help here, but your manner of communication is confusing and not ideal for newer editors, and I feel you should spend time editing and learning about Wikipedia.  I encourage you to use the Teahouse as a space to ask questions for now, and to continue your work on articles.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 03:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)


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Thanks for offering to help with my class!
Hi JethroBT. I appreciate your quick response and offer to help. I'm in my 5th semester now of having my History of Psychology class work on Wikipedia Psychology articles rather than the traditional term papers. It's been a great experience for me and my students, but I still have a lot to learn. I've gotten my class started with editing tutorials and they've now picked articles to work on this semester. Not sure what you need from me (e.g., access to course page?), but it would be nice to know that we can call on you for help from time to time. Thanks! J.R. Council (talk) 20:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, you could add me to the course if you'd like. Just drop me a line if you ever need a second opinion or a hand with anything.  I, JethroBT  drop me a line 05:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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