User talk:I Know The Ledge

November 2014
Hello, I'm Dwpaul. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!  Dwpaul  Talk   21:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Please stop changing the occupation of rappers in their articles on Wikipedia to "Emcee". Emcee has a number of meanings that are not related to hip hop culture, and the article with that title here on Wikipedia has only a small section that does pertain to that culture; it refers the reader to the primary article on that topic, Rapping.  The article Rapping (redirect target of Rapper) in turn explains that emcee or MC is an alternative term for a rap artist.  Clearly in this case, the use of Emcee you mean is the one related to hip hop culture, and the people who you are re-labeling as Emcee are only such within the context of that culture, so the correct article to describe their occupation is Rapper and the appropriate article to link to is Rapping.  Dwpaul   Talk   22:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Though a Emcee and a Rapper may seem the same in the culture of hip hop a Rapper is someone whose considered amongst hip hop veterans and purest as a gimmick. The Emcee is considered a a skilled craftsman of the culture.


 * Then I encourage you to introduce/expand on this information at the article Rapping, which is already the primary article that discusses the term Emcee or MC as it relates to hip hop culture, versus changing every other article on rappers who also qualify as Emcees to point to an article less focused on the culture.  Dwpaul  Talk   22:29, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * And having done so, it might then make sense to use piped disambiguation to link to the article Rapping but display the text Emcee. E.g.,   Dwpaul   Talk   22:37, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It's also worth pointing out that your distinction between an emcee and a rapper would constitute Original Research, which is a no-no on Wikipedia. Even if you had a citation from, say, Kool Moe Dee likes the term "MC" and even if HE said exactly what you're saying in a new book or magazine article, that still wouldn't be factual enough to make this distinction you're going for. That'd just be his opinion still, and it takes a lot to override the common meaning of the word, especially given Dwpaul's reasons as above. JesseRafe (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)