User talk:Iadmc/Archive 2

Adoption
I think Hersfold may be a bit busy at the moment because he is not editing. But, regarding the adoption, I would be happy to help you if you wish. Regards, Martin 10:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Martin. How do we proceed? Jubilee♫ clipman 14:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe you could tell me something about why you are here and what you are interested in contributing in and what you think you need to learn first, and then maybe we can work out how to proceed. I might suggest one thing though. I see you've been editing Pink Floyd. That's great, but it might be best not to learn how to edit Wikipedia using a Featured Article. The reason is that any mistakes are likely to less tolerated, simply because it will be watched by a great number of editors and there will have been a lot of discussion in the past which you may not be aware of. (Of course you are welcome to continue your work on Pink Floyd; just be very careful to make sure that any significant change has consensus.) However it might be better to pick a Start-Class article to work on, or if you are adventurous, look at a B-Class article and see what it needs to take it to good article standard. Martin 15:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for adopting me, Martin. I am interested in adding my own knowledge and expetise to Wiki: you should be able to get a flavour of my interests from my user page.  I also list there the work I have done so far.  What I need to learn mainly is the etiquette of Wiki!  That, and where to find useful things like tags (html, as well as the special Wiki ones) and how to use them correctly.  In essence, I think I have mastered the absolute basics of editing but now need to learn the next level of skills.  Agree?  You make a good point about Featured Articles: I'd probably be best advised to avoid them for now.  On the other hand, I have not yet received any negative criticism of my work on the PF article (aside from a minor difference of opinion regarding my moving part of the article intro elsewhere); however, it may only be a matter of time.  See my comments at Talk:Pink_Floyd.  I'll ask anything else as and when it arises - or when I remember... ;)  Jubilee♫ clipman  18:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

(unindenting) Well, feel free to continue with Pink Floyd then! Just know that it won't be the most forgiving place on Wikipedia :) In terms of wiki-etiquette, there is a guideline, Etiquette. I haven't read it myself. I just learned as I went along, and I don't think much can go wrong as it's all common sense really and it's perfectly understandable when newcomers make mistakes. For editing, personally I found Cheatsheet quite useful. But maybe you are beyond this now anyway. What sort of "tags" do you want to use and for what purpose? It may be useful to starting learning some policy. The important ones can probably be found in Five pillars which was linked from your welcome message. Perhaps I could set you some homework? Haha, yes. Find out about the three main processes through which articles are deleted on Wikipedia. And if you happened to find an article which you think doesn't belong here, you could put them to the test. (New pages patrol might be a place to find pages that should be deleted.) But in general it's better to improve articles rather than delete them. Martin 22:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

(remaining unindented since conversation is only between two people, so far)

Like you, I feel that probably the best way to learn is by DIY mistake-making... and I have made one or two! ;) The Wiki guidelines I've read so far are useful, though (MoS is particularly helpful in avoiding stylistic clashes eg BrEng/AmEng, defer to first major editor, etc): I will read the "Wikiquette" [is that the word?!] one after writing this. The main things to remember appear to be (a) Wikipedia entries should be fact-based and unbaised; (b) they should avoid copyrighted material; and (c) IAR. Agreed? I am going to climb down a bit, though: jumping into the emotionally charged and opinionated world of PF was probably a bad idea... I'll work on pages such as Fearne Cotton (highlighted as "fansite") and Holly Willoughby (which is pitifully small considering her varied career).  I'll see what feed-back these get. I also have a few other contributions to make in my other interest areas, but I'll put these on hold for now.  Good plan?  One other major question for future reference: if I have a suggestion for the website designers (eg adding a link to the side menu or cleaning up a format problem) do I use the "contact Wikipedia" link or do I try to find a specific admin user to approach? BTW, The "tags" I meant were those used to highlight problem areas in articles eg Disputed, Biased etc. I've found most now. One idea I have for the designers is to add a link on the side bar to a page listing the common ones, though I suspect this has been suggested/tried/rejected a million times now given that it could be overused/abused... Jubilee♫ clipman 02:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC) Addendum: I initially read the homework idea as a simple throw away comment to be passed over with LOL! On reflection, it might not be a bad idea; if you have the time and inclination, you could maybe suggest a few articles that might be more suited to my present abilities. ''Only if the suggestion was serious though... ;)'' Jubilee♫ clipman 02:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The best place to discuss proposals to change things is usually the WP:Village pump. It can often be difficult to get consensus for a change though! I'm not sure if you would get support for another link on the sidebar. Remember that most project pages have a shortcut (e.g. WP:VP for the village pump) which can get you to places quickly.


 * No the homework was serious and not a throwaway comment! I really think it would be a good idea to read up on the deletion policy. Haven't addresses your other questions yet but will look again when I get a chance. Best wishes, Martin 23:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the VP reminder: I had forgotten about that! The silly joke article on Wiki being a MMPRPG or whatever is also perversely very useful as it seems to contain most of the links you'll ever need... Anyway I've started to bookmark the useful things in FireFox: I can find then straight away.

I've completely rehashed the Fearne Cotton article as it was marked "fansite" and merely contained a list of things in no coherent or useful order. Could you review my edits there? I forgot to sign in once (IP 62.249.253.241), but compare Star873873's last edit with moogie2002's last edit and then moogie's with mine and you will see the extent of my changes. Hope they are not too much...? I'm looking at Holly Willoughby now (as it were... ;D) Jubilee♫ clipman 00:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm really impressed with your edits there. It's now a decent article. Just one suggestion: try to make more use of edit summaries? Can we get a free image of Fearne Cotton from somewhere? Happy New Year to you! Martin 09:03, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Martin! I spent about 5 hours on each so I hope they are somewhere like reasonable! It would be fantastic if we could get some free images for Fearne and Holly. I tried one for Fearne, others have also tried both for her and Holly, but they get vetoed everytime. Not sure where to go short of contacting their press offices or actually getting firsthand shoots myself... Thoughts? Jubilee♫ clipman 15:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC) BTW, I have been reading up on deletion policy: I'll get back to you after new year to discuss my understanding. Jubilee♫ clipman 15:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Nuts I did it again...

...I played with your edits. ;) Jubilee♫ clipman 00:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Seconded
I agree with your reclassification at Rational consensus. Nothing to stop us multiply categorising in the long term. Have a nice day. Cheers. Alastair Haines (talk) 09:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Alastair. Just seemed to apply in a far wider context.  Hello, BTW!  Jubilee♫ clipman  09:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Classical music
Thanks for joining Classical music. In view of your kind offer I thought you might be interested to see this category grouping the stubs: Category:Stub-Class Classical music articles. Best for the holidays! -- Klein zach  08:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the welcome, Klein. Sorry I haven't responded till now: working on other projects in the "real" world.  I'll have look at those stubs; they seem like a good place to start, so thanks for them.  Jubilee♫ clipman  20:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Programme
Given that you live in the UK and were working on the article of a British celebrity, you ought to know that "programme" is the correct spelling of the word.

The only circumstance in which we use the spelling "program" is when talking about things that run on a computer. -- Smjg (talk) 18:55, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 *  LOL! I hadn't actually noticed that... I think the original editor had used that spelling and I continued with it. BTW, thanks for the cleanup there and in Fearne's Wiki: they are looking something like sensible entries now.  I'm going to work on stubs and "Fansite" type entries for now.  Not just celebs, but musicians too.  Should keep me out of mischief!  Jubilee♫ clipman  15:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC) (See above, too, BTW at Adoption. Jubilee♫ clipman  15:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC) )

Re: Adoption

 * Hello, Jubilee. Sorry for the late response, I haven't been around for the past month for various reasons. It looks like you've since been adopted by Martin (and sorted out your other issue); I'm sure he'll do an excellent job for you, but I'm always open for questions if he doesn't seem to be around himself. Happy editing! Hers fold  (t/a/c) 15:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Hersfold. Yes Martin is doing a great job. Thanks for the offer of help, though, I'll bear you in mind. Jubilee♫ clipman 23:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hi there, I've been away for a while so I thought I'd come and see what you were up to. Seems you haven't edited in a while. Hope to see you back again soon. As always, if I can help with anything, let me know. Martin 13:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Martin. Yes, I've been on other things for a while.  Getting back to it now, although I may be hit and miss for the next few months.  Might look at those classical stubs another editor pointed me towards.  I'll certainly keep in touch: plenty more I need to know I'm sure!  Jubilee♫ clipman  20:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

English grammar
As a frequent (>=20 edits) contributor to English verbs, would you like to weigh in at Talk:English_grammar? Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  21:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Will check it out Jubilee♫ clipman 23:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Request to participate in University of Washington survey on tool to quickly understand Wikipedians’ reputations
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Rodolfo Valentin
The article about Rodolfo Valentin has been in wikipedia from several years, rated as star class and supported by the wiki project. It is difficult to understand why it is being nominated for deletion?--can you please help to "keep" it?--thank you very muchNicole reutman (talk) 00:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

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Requested moves note
Hi there. I think you misunderstood the Uncontroversial requests section; it's for moves that require admin tools. Otherwise there would be no need to list them there, the editor would just move it. -kotra (talk) 23:50, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Duh! my mistake. Pretty obvious when you think of it! Sorry.  Jubilee♫ clipman  00:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

(album)?
The McCartney moves probably should have been to whatever (album) or possibly to whatever when there was no existing article and little chance of a collision... &mdash; John Cardinal (talk) 00:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * One of the bare titles was blocked. I just put (McCartney) because that made the most sense at the time.  Your idea might be better actually, but I'll leave it for now.  Thanks! Jubilee♫ clipman  00:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Post
You posted on the user page instead of the talk page. I presume this was an error, so I've moved it to the talk page.  Ty  16:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, yes that was an error. Thanks for correcting it!  --Jubilee♫ clipman  16:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)