User talk:Iamtheswing

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Thank you for submitting an article to Wikipedia. Your draft submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please take a look and respond if possible. You can find it at Wikipedia&. If there is no response within seven days, the request may be declined. If this happens, please feel free to continue to work on the article. You can resubmit it (by adding the text  to the top of the article) when you believe the concerns have been addressed. Thank you. — CharlieEchoTango  — 05:10, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Thank you for submitting an article to Wikipedia. Your draft submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please take a look and respond if possible. You can find it at Wikipedia&. If there is no response within seven days, the request may be declined. If this happens, please feel free to continue to work on the article. You can resubmit it (by adding the text  to the top of the article) when you believe the concerns have been addressed. Thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Thank you for submitting an article to Wikipedia. Your draft submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please take a look and respond if possible. You can find it at Wikipedia&. If there is no response within seven days, the request may be declined. If this happens, please feel free to continue to work on the article. You can resubmit it (by adding the text  to the top of the article) when you believe the concerns have been addressed. Thank you. Sceptre (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Swing Katz
Hi. You made an Article for creation page,  Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Swing Katz (2011-10-20), but it was never actually submitted for a review.

I have submitted it just now, so you should get feedback soon. Cheers!  Chzz  ► 23:56, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Potential conflict of interest
Hello Iamtheswing. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Swing Katz, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about following the reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

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Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:20, 27 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text to the top of the article.)
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 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:37, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I had several concerns with this page. First off, the entry is still written in a promotional and advertising tone. This will need to be completely changed to conform with Wikipedia's expectations for neutrality. It's close, but things such as "The Swing Katz specialise in entertainment such as weddings, corporate functions, birthday parties and charity events" is more something that would be written for an advertisement than an encyclopedia entry because it's quoting what the band can be hired for. Generally speaking, stuff like that isn't necessary to put on Wikipedia since it's not really notable or important.

Secondly, many of the sources aren't considered to be reliable sources per WP:RS. Anything released by Swing Katz or one of their representatives cannot be used as a reliable source because people can claim whatever they want about themselves and (more importantly) also because it's in their best interests to represent themselves in the best light possible. Facebook is also unusable as a reliable source and for the most part, Wikipedia tries to avoid linking to it in general. Be aware that Youtube generally cannot be used as a source because it's user created and unless it comes from an official source (CNN, NBC, etc), it should be avoided as far as sourcing goes. Links to review sites also do not count as reliable sources because that is something that anyone can edit and is not considered to be a reliable source. I did notice that one page had several news stories listed, but some of those appeared to be press releases, which cannot be used as a reliable source since it was released by the company or people representing Swing Katz. Also be aware that several of the entries were very hard to read, so I couldn't tell how reliable the articles were as far as WP:RS goes. Articles where the group is only briefly mentioned or one of the singers is quoted are not considered to be news sources that prove notability. Also be careful about local news articles since they don't always show how something might pass WP:GNG. I also want to note that business director listings also do not count as reliable sources, nor do notices of upcoming performances or classes. An example of what would be considered a reliable source is a link to an in-depth news story from a reliable source or newspaper that focuses on the group. Blog entries unfortunately cannot be used unless they're from a very notable person. (Like if Lady Gaga wrote a blog entry, that could be used as a source.)

Finally, I wanted to mention that if you are a participant in the group it might not be the best idea to create an article about yourself. It's not completely against the rules, but it's generally frowned upon, mostly because it's easy to slip into non-neutral language without realizing it. I highly recommend that you look into getting someone from WikiProject Dance to help you out. Not only can they help you find sources, but they'd also be able to help write the article in a more neutral manner.

Hopefully this helps you out some. I know it's got to be frustrating, especially since Wikipedia has such strict guidelines on what is considered to be a reliable source and what is considered to be notable, but hopefully this will help you along your way.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:37, 27 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Swing Katz


A tag has been placed on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Swing Katz, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. j⚛e deckertalk 15:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)