User talk:Ian.thomson/Archive 39

Mind the shop for me
Moving to the other side of the planet later this week and won't have my apartment for two weeks. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

How High the Horse
I'm sure that you've never made a mistake in life; however, unlike you, I am not perfect. When trying to correct the syntax of a quotation, I accidentally edited an older version of the page. You will note that many edits that were inadvertently removed were THOSE I MADE to correct and add sources. They also include issues Doug and I agree about. My objective was not to engage in a petty, malicious, belittling attack. . .I wish we could all say the same. Anyway, thanks for spotting this.OjogbonIjinle (talk) 00:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * A mistake's totally a thing. Repeatedly using highly inaccurate edit summaries while skipping out on doing something you know well enough to ask others to do is not just a mistake. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:40, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Block this User 120.29.85.245
I need admin help to check or block user ID: 120.29.85.245 due to disruptive editing, they repeatedly and reverted ediing, requests to stop changing in the article in this series. Maria Mercedes, Halik, The General's Daughter, Sino ang May Sala?: Mea Culpa, Nang Ngumiti ang Langit and all ABS-CBN drama article. Thank you for your assistance. Barneysss (talk) 14:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No. I really am not seeing what the issue is.  Did they go slightly outside of some project's obscure standards or something?  Ian.thomson (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Legal
Is it legal for readers to download images from Wikipedia articles and use them for personal uses, such as prints, desktop wallpaper, or editing? Asked another editor but got no response.2600:1:F1A8:AC53:F50F:EE64:20F7:849E (talk) 15:55, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'd have to say "depends on the image." If there's a fair use rationale, there's a potential argument that you're infringing trademark for printing that image instead of buying the official print or something.  If it's public domain or under some creative commons licenses (read the license), it's probably OK.
 * That said, desktop wallpaper is probably always safe. No corporation has enough time or money to waste taking someone to court to challenge the fair use claim for their desktop.  Ian.thomson (talk) 11:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * But it is still technically infringement to download and copy an image that is not public domain (even if you are able to right click it and download)? 2600:1:F1A8:AC53:F50F:EE64:20F7:849E (talk) 13:10, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * See Legal disclaimer for that. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:05, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing
Hi Ian, we have some major editing issues about these articles: List of programs broadcast by Jeepney TV and List of programs aired by Jeepney TV. In the history section via the website, someone who edited for the upcoming programs from User talk:112.204.71.53 but the current programs reverted back from my notepad. Please monitor it and protect the article against disruptive editing within 15 days. Thank you. –&#8239;Jon2 (talk) 14:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Where are the sources establishing that those topics are notable? Just because the station might be notable doesn't mean the list of programs are.  In fact, Jeepney TV doesn't have independent sourcing either.  Just because ABS-CBN is notable doesn't mean that Jeepney TV is, either. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:34, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:52, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

User:EditorE
Hi Ian. I believe I have blocked an IP sock of EditorE. Two other editors agree that it is most likely them ( and ). However they are claiming innocence. Out of an abundance of caution and as you were the blocking admin, I was wondering if you'd care to have a look. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't believe their claims for a second. They're editing the same sorts of articles and doing exactly the same things EditorE did—down to naming subheadings of charts sections just "Weekly" instead of "Weekly charts", which might seem trivial to others but is something I noticed EditorE did regularly and I had not really seen before. Also, they have made several edits to one of EditorE's favourite topics, Black Origami . They can't help but gravitate back to the same articles, which is the case with basically every sockpuppet editor ever. I am 100% sure it's them this point.  Ss  112   00:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not an expert by any means but even I can see the glaring similarities. Unless Ian tells me I'm wrong, they are staying blocked. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, good then. I just looked and Ian doesn't appear to have edited in nearly three weeks...  Ss  112   01:31, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry. I don't get home from work until 6:30 at earliest these days, and I spend most of my weekends recovering or making up for stuff I couldn't get to during the week. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Teal Swan editor SPI
Is it necessary to add the IP(s) that made very similar edits to Swan's article yesterday? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 11:23, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Those fall so far under WP:DUCK that I wouldn't bother. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. Just checking! Eagleash (talk) 11:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

If you've time,
would you run your eyes over Garner Ted Armstrong? I think the WMA file is safe although I didn't download it completely, just started it on IE which didn't throw up a warning. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 07:58, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ran over 'm with my large truck. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:43, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * So you did! Thanks. Doug Weller  talk 11:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Need a timesink removed
After and many others, I think WP:NOTHERE applies. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 14:27, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The user could use a warning... --Izno (talk) 14:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, they needed a block, and . Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 17:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

The God Culture
See. -- Doug Weller talk 15:05, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, had the impression it was something like that. I instinctively distrust any source when anyone says "go watch all their videos" instead of citing a specific video (or better yet, a specific segment), because it makes me think that the channel is just going to repeat the same claims over and over until fans believe it.  I've only seen him bring it up on the Ophir talk page and Eden, so I can still assume he's just a fan who doesn't realize it's not RS.  Since you've spelled out the unacceptability of the source, I'm debating on whether my next step (if he tries to use it in article space again) will be final warning or something else.  Three day weekend, so I'll be able to follow up some tomorrow.  Will at least keep the relevant tabs open after that (working at a preschool from 9-6 is damn tiring, though). Ian.thomson (talk) 23:38, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Idalu
How you would versed that sentence ? Bolded is my addition.

. A later study found that Herto man and his contemporaries were cranially similar to Oceanians, with Northern Melenesians being the closest. 'Ancient DNA from Homo Idalu'' need yet to be recover while ancient DNA related to most cranially similar Northern Melanesian was found in Syberia"".

99.90.196.227 (talk) 06:02, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I cannot even begin to tell what you were trying to say. Ian.thomson (talk) 06:06, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Infopulse Ukraine
Hey, upon reporting a vandal, I noticed that you placed an {Undisclosed paid} tag on Infopulse page. I'm not a very active contributor and do watch this page, contributing to it and a few others from time to time, as I do watch a very limited amount of others like []. So, there has also been an ad tag on Infopulse page since March, but I still didn't have enough time to rewrite the text in a more neutral way. Can you suggest what would be my next steps as to edit the text there to remove both tags?

--Dimmmkko talk 11:37, 03 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Disclose your employment on your userpage, following the directions I have left on your userpage. Now. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I do work with this company, managing a mobile development project for them. However, I'm editing this wiki page on volunteering basis, in my own free time and don't get payment for it. This page was in awful state and completely neglected before I started editing it back in 2016. I decided to contribute what I know and what I could about the company, and since then I support it with some minor updates here and there. Half a year ago (in March) another wiki admin placed 'advert' tag on it, and I simply didn't have enough time to tone it down, cause I'm only editing it in my free time. I'm not a very active contributor, and only write on specific topics I'm deeply interest in, even on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/user/Dimmmkko/) cause I'm a bit fed up with emails I have to write daily, and on wiki I prefer reading instead =P So what should be my next steps then? How do I classify my relationship to the company, if I work with them but I'm writing out of my own initiative? EDIT: I've also noticed that another, more advanced user of wiki just made some nice edits to the Ukrainian page, making the article much more neutral and encyclopedic. E.g., will it work if I follow his edits and transfer them to English page?

--Dimmmkko talk 14:18, 03 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You still need to disclose your employment on your userpage and you should not be directly editing the page. You are being paid by the company you're writing about -- we don't care about any other details.
 * Also, stop marking all of your edits as minor. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:40, 3 October 2019 (UTC)


 * That's where things are a bit more complicated. I work WITH this company, not for it. Neither I'm paid by this company at all. Company I work for and Infopulse only joined forces together to work on a mobile development project for a public non-profit organization. We are not even getting profit from it, cause it's a kind of charity/promotional project. Now, I only picked this article back in 2016, cause information in it was very outdated, and since I contributed my own time to it, now I feel responsible for it. That's it. So far, I'm confused as to which type of affiliation I'm supposed to pick here. Dimmmkko talk 10:14, 03 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Follow the instructions I left on your userpage, including disclosing your employment and not directly editing the article, or be blocked for violating our terms of service. End of discussion. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

M I Anjum Thaheem
Thank you dear Thomson for guiding  rules... M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk) 17:11, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Imran khan  pPrime Minister  of Pakistan  is great international  leader... His wisdom has  beyond  the  mental  and  means  level  of  Mr Moodi  the Indian  terrorist   M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk) 17:14, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

We love Kashmir  we love  PTI and Pakistan... We love  Islam... A peaceful  religion...... We condemn  Indian  Moodi  terrorism  in Kashmir.......... M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

We love Kashmir  we love  PTI and Pakistan... We love  Islam... A peaceful  religion...... We condemn  Indian  Moodi  terrorism  in Kashmir.......... M I Anjum Thaheem chairman international liasion committee LHCBA for Environmental (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Five years of adminship
 Wishing Ian.thomson a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 23:50, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

WP:THQ
Hi Ian. I saw you closed this thread once and even went as far to post an explanation as to why on Skalle-Per Hedenhös's user talk page, but he/she started things up again. I've closed it a second time, but not sure where to go next if he/she keeps going. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:43, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm *this* close to a WP:NOTHERE block with them. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * After ready their unblock request, it seems that you was correct in blocking the account and they were unlikely going to stop unless you did. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/306 Records
What's your take on Royalty Records, another obscure Canadian label whose page was created by Eric444 and never expanded? Damian Marshall is another one of their works that has become quite obscure.

I think that Eric444 was editing in good faith, but man are some of these Canadian country singers and their labels obscure. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I've not had time to confirm an absence of sources but as it stands I'd !vote delete. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * So, glancing a bit for sources this morning, I'm seeing more for a Nigerian company by that name and only passing mentions for the Canadian company  including one that mentions that the Canadian label is dead. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * After further digging, I'm now inclined to keep. This is pretty substantial and many releases from the label have been up for or won Juno Awards. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:05, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

White Privilege
Hey, you're rather correct about China having a distinct preference for white foreigners; a lot of China-work forums had long-running posts where black expats would swap warnings, stories and tips for dealing with racism that I almost never faced. However, treating white privilege within the sense of the "backpack" framework makes that particular colorist hierarchy slightly out of scope; certainly enough for tedious racists and anti-social-science tendentious types to make the article talk into one of those tedious never-ending arguments that have me stepping back from Wikipedia. Anyway, I am disinclined to reply at Talk:White Privilege as part of my attempt to reduce the extent I let myself get dragged into fights on Wikipedia, but I thought dropping you a note might at least be called for. Simonm223 (talk) 18:59, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
I definitely need to work hard at the formatting.

Balayka (talk) 23:59, 19 October 2019 (UTC) 

I didn't add an article
I didn't add any articles or articles that are only in the see also section of Cyrus the Great in the Qur'an, as it is mentioned on the same page of Cyrus the Great in addition to Alexander, and in the Wikipedia page in addition to Alexander in the Qur'an Cyrus in the Qur'an There must be a name for both Reza235 (talk) 10:20, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * What part of "It is your responsibility to cite a source for any information you add" do you not understand? Making me say it over and over doesn't help you. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:43, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Ian.thomson: My source is Wikipedia. I also see the page of Cyrus the Great in the Koran in Wikipedia itself. Cyrus the Great Page in the Qur'an is available on Wikipedia, now let me add the Cyrus the Great page in Wikipedia? Because I just added the Cyrus the Great page on Wikipedia Reza235 (talk) 11:31, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Circular referencing is an academic sin and even if it weren't we never cite wikis, Wikipedia included. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Onward to 2020 04:02, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * User Doug Weller has removed all content related to Cyrus the Great from the Zul-Qarnain page while all content was with the source. This content has been on Wikipedia for months, and why was it removed with my protest?  All deleted material about Cyrus the Great is on the Zul-Qarnain page with the source so why deleted? please return the deleted material

Delete Cyrus the Great's name
User Doug Weller has removed all content related to Cyrus the Great from the Zul-Qarnain page while all content was with the source. This content has been on Wikipedia for months, and why was it removed with my protest? All deleted material about Cyrus the Great is on the Zul-Qarnain page with the source so why deleted? please return the deleted material Reza235 (talk) 12:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing something that has been respected 7 years by all readers
The fact that someone gave you the power to ban people, does not make you right. If you keep banning, you will be cursed by me. Ertobari (talk) 00:34, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that you imagine you have magical powers does not make you right. In fact, it suggests the opposite.  Cite sources or GTFO. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to do about this editor
Their latest edit to Dhul-Qarnayn‎ is still a mess, starting with adding stuff to sourced text not in the source. I've reverted before but it doesn't make any difference. Doug Weller talk 09:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm about ready to act on the conclusion that they're not interested at all in learning any of the site's policies, guidelines, or standards, nor in improving the quality of his edits, no matter how much the necessity of those things is explained to him. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. He clearly still doesn't get it.  Doug Weller  talk 13:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Aristobulus I
Hello Ian.thomson, would you be willing to improve two sentences @Aristobulus I. I simply don't know. Under "Ascension as king" section, the sentence " To secure his kingship, he had his mother placed in prison where she starved to death; And to ensure himself of any possible endangerment from his family, he placed his three brothers in prison except for Antigonus whom he had friendly relations with bacause they'd fought together against the enemies of Judaea ." And under section "Coinage", " The only preserved coins have been categorized into two groups. " Thank you! Jerm (talk) 20:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Fefil14
Indeffed as nothere after I found this edit. Doug Weller  talk 14:58, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith Johnston (talk • contribs) 16:15, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Article which was there from 2015, deleted on 2019 Dec!
Hi, You were telling that "@Jaisonje: See WP:42 and WP:NUKE for why it was deleted. Read our policy on editing with a conflict of interest and this guide on how to write articles that won't be deleted before trying again. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)". Actually, I have given the newspaper links, TV links to prove the geunity of the portal. Please restore it for them. They will edit the content and make it clean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entekrishi.com. I will help them. Also please help us to edit the content if you have time for volunteer work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaisonje (talk • contribs)
 * You missed the bit about editing with a conflict of interest, which, along with the guide I linked, explains that you need to not use promotional language. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Judaism's Perspective of Jesus and Christianity
Thank you for trying to edit, revert and allow Judaism's perspectives on Jesus and Christianity ["those sentences are about Judaism's views on Christian beliefs, not on Christianity's views of Christian beliefs"] in the article, but it looks like they removed all of it from the lede while they allowed some to remain in the Jewish Perspective section. And thank you also for defending religions other than Christianity and restoring [or trying to] information on other faith's denial of the divinity of Jesus. The Rejection of Jesus article looks like it needs a lot of work, which I hope I can do in the near future. Thanks again.ShivatTzion (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Very pitiful that so many Christians and worshipers of Jesus can't handle Judaism's views of Christianity/Jesus, as well as Judaism's central tenets/fundamentals on the nature of God, the Messiah in Judaism, etc., simply because they are diametric opposites and completely different. So many Christians have enraged reactions when these core principles are shown. They might laugh off annoying atheists, Mormons, Muslims, Rastafarians, Hindus and Buddhists, but they fume at Judaism. Maybe you are able to explain why people, who are completely rational in other aspects of their lives, cognitively shut down when Judaism's views are shown to them.ShivatTzion (talk) 01:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Pperrin uk
Hey, Is this a DS block or just a CIR/IDNHT/I like to argue block--  Deep fried  okra    03:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It appears to me to be the latter.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:34, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Not DS. I've been told that me fixing Pizzagate conspiracy theory from its original crackheaded form means I'm involved in US politics. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Ian.thomson: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Donner60 (talk) 08:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Page edited and resubmitted
The page [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roney_Singh ] is now resubmitted with the changed details. Will you review again for the approval of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepjoy66 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * As I said last time, your sources are neither independent nor reliable.
 * You need to find professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are not connected with Roney Singh. They cannot be by Roney Singh.  They cannot interview Roney Singh.  They cannot be videos that anyone can upload.  They need to be professional-sources by people with no connection to Roney Singh, but still specifically about him.
 * Once again, if you follow the instructions at User:Ian.thomson/Howto, you will have an article that will not be rejected. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:49, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Moved from *RIGHT BELOW* the instructions saying new stuff goes at the bottom
I must ask are you a atheist or a Christian? Your page seems to contradict itself. It says your a humanist and a liberal Baptist.

Can you explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:4C89:1A00:1DD9:6583:5CA2:A67A (talk) 07:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll put it this way:
 * I believe in a singular Absolute known to us as a transcendent, personal, and immanent Trinity, who experienced Incarnation, Crucifixion, and Resurrection as Jesus of Nazareth. I believe we are made in the Image of God (which, along with the Incarnation, is the source of my humanism) and that the Bible is divinely inspired but that humans cannot understand without interpretation so one should favor whatever interpretation helps one to love God with all their heart and love others as they love themselves.  (It's also more convenient if one distinguishes between their own understanding of the text and the likely historical interpretation of texts, the latter determined by scholarship).  If someone wants to argue that, despite or because of those beliefs, I'm not Christian then I neither understand nor am interested in whatever they're calling Christianity (and I say that as someone who holds the same fascination for cults, superstitions, and horrific doctrines that horror movie fans have for their flicks).
 * Baptist beliefs historically varied quite a bit between congregations. About the only way to safely describe Baptists is "Congregationalists who insist on practicing believer's baptism through submersion in water for whatever reason."  We are ecuminical anarchists, though some more vocal members have forgotten that.  That said, that latter group (along with growing up with love of Catholics and Catholicism, even if I have problems with certain persons and organizations under that label) is leaving me more and more inclined to just saying I'm an ecuminist. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:33, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Runway
Runways and pubic hairstyles aren't related in any way. This is just harrassing users, playing with them and calling them dumbasses It's humiliating and degrading to see a boy or a girl's body exposed this way and trying to toy around with these simple notions and saying that by principle wikipedia doesn't censor this shit. Young kids see this and think it's OK to play the same way as well, and it's not, it's repulsive. Encouraging others to expose or to humiliate another person's body is repulsive and degrading. Trying to call it sexual empowerment is even worse (and sicker). There is no context for this (shit)! (sorry for the outburst), but I feel that strongly about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACxcv (talk • contribs)
 * "Runway" is a style of pubic waxing. Read the article.  It doesn't encourage anyone to do anything.
 * Kids who are going to peer-pressure or bully don't need our article to do that, they'll do that on their own.  Kids who are informed about such matters are less likely to be peer-pressured or bullied into doing something sexual, while kids who are uninformed are easier to be lied to and thus peer-pressured.
 * This has nothing to do with your feelings, it has to do with site policy. Stop it with your fantasies about children's pubic hair, that's not going to change anything. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

New stuff goes at the bottom
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. My efforts would have been better spent reading the detailed information on Talk pages, in addition to the introduction, than on making unnecessary edits. Lord knows there's no excuse for unnecessary effort. A further thanks for the mention of in-article edit notices.

Wikipedia, much as life. Can be a maze of formats, rulesets, customs, and norms. Navigation is always more enjoyable with a friend. But then, isn't everything?

Latcarf (talk) 01:12, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Donald Trump
Hi there, could you explain why the name of this person who is alleged of being "the whistleblower" is being redacted from the talk page? I don't support adding that name to the article or any article as it isn't supported by reliable sources, but how does WP:BLP apply to this on the talk page case? Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 08:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I wasn't the first nor last admin to revdel edits of this sort from that IP troll, otherwise I'd've probably been doing something else somewhere else. WP:BLP applies to all pages, not just article space, and this BLP issue is enough that a filter was put in to prevent the name from being posted. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:21, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm implying that BLP applies to talk pages, I'm just inquiring as to how so in this case. Onetwothreeip (talk) 11:47, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Until reliable sources identify that individual as the whistleblower, naming that person as such or otherwise bringing up that person when the only context is implying they're the whistleblower, is (at best) a violation of the privacy of a non-public individual (if not a false accusation that's going to needlessly cause a lot of harassment and probably death threats) -- and so a BLP violation.  is there anything I'm missing and/or do y'all have a better way to explain it? Ian.thomson (talk) 12:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. As Ian says, BLP applies the same everywhere. I would frame the BLP (whistleblower) issue in terms of two questions: Is the information correct, and is it reliably sourced? For both, I don't think we can answer in the positive. I would elaborate.. frankly you can talk about the same questions without naming anybody in particular. And on this point, in reply to a question asked elsewhere, I would point out that what the Senator said was a question, and it was a question which he identified as not relating to any whistleblower. When you take out this relationship, its relevance is dubious at best. Actually for me, the issue can be boiled down to one observation: Why is even Fox News avoiding this like the plague? -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:10, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia will not include the name of the whistleblower until it is the subject of non-trivial coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. Inclusion in RS is a necessary but not sufficient criterion for inclusion. Note that partisan websites - left or right - are not acceptable for contentious claims about living people. Thus far, no reliable source has repeated the name, the closest we've come is talking about Rand Paul's statement and linking a video, but I have not seen a RS actually publish the name. At this time all I can see is speculation on right wing websites that fail RS.
 * The ranges have now been blocked. This is an Indian mobile provider and IPs mainly geolocate to Hyderabad, so presumably an American working with offshores in India, given the language style. Guy (help!) 14:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Responding from Teahouse
Hey Ian, I got caught up in real life and took too long to reply at Teahouse. Now it's archived. Woops. Thank you though, your advice was helpful. Ive come to the conclusion it would be unwise for me to reply or comment anywhere on AN/I until I have more time as an editor under my belt. Im still too green for that. Only been an editor for a month as of today. Just stopping by and thanking you for the advice. :) Best wishes! SageSolomon (talk) 05:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

User talk:INDIAN DIGITAL ACADEMY OF SKILLS
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Help for Weixin.
Hi,

You did not went back on reference desk, but it seems you can help me as I am blocked by the condition on this image [] since I never went in China. Or rather that you know peoples who can help me. 37.171.150.158 (talk) 20:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm pretty busy these days.
 * I'm not a Chinese national. I taught in China about four years ago and set up my account before going over.
 * As explained, it looks like WeChat has gotten more strict and is not letting people sign up without a friend in China.  He also provided this link on how to verify your account.
 * The majority of my WeChat contacts are either former students (whose IDs I cannot give out) or fellow teachers (whose contact lists are already full). Ian.thomson (talk) 22:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That s the point, I don t even know how to write Hello. 37.165.30.3 (talk) 01:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not something I can help you with. I'm not on this site to teach people the four phrases in Chinese I had to learn ("this one, to go," "I don't understand," "I don't have money," "I don't want that"), and I'm not about to publicly post the WeChat IDs of anyone I know still living in China. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to mean as a result that I can t use solution s which requires to speak in Chineese to the staff nor I can ask this on places where someone would help. 37.164.197.100 (talk) 18:01, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

About that lawyer...
You are probably aware of this: lawyers (and professors) are frequently accosted by earnest but clueless "inventors" (sometimes with mental issues), and sometimes will simply foist them off on the nearest available target merely to get rid of them. I suspect that that is what happened on the help desk just now. -Arch dude (talk) 03:42, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I considered that but still want to throw the customer back at them regardless of the situation. If that lawyer ain't gonna pay us, then we're not dealing with his problem cases. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:46, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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This user's block expired and immediately reverted again at Zach Moore without discussion.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  14:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And again.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  17:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)