User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)/Archive 14

Excellent student editing noted
I don't know if this is the right place to post this and if not please pass it on to the right editor. I chose to watch one of the student-edited articles, Palliative sedation, and fully expected the usual mess. It may seem harsh to write that but it's the truth. In all my years of editing I can think of only three students who did really good work. Most of the others made it hard to believe it was even college work, in some cases hardly even high school work, let alone any attempt to work on the article with any sort of effort. So as you may imagine when I saw the sort of work the four students were doing on their article, almost as good as an experienced medical editor, I was pleasantly speechless. This complement is especially significant because medical articles are very difficult to work on and the experienced editors that watch them are very fussy about new edits. Gandydancer (talk) 01:46, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I really appreciate this. I will pass your message on. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear. Risk Engineer (talk) 19:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from ColdRainyDay45 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with understanding in what ways I can improve this draft to make it final. I want to know if there is any more information I should add, and any other general feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you! ColdRainyDay45 (talk) 05:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC) --ColdRainyDay45 (talk) 05:22, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * , you can help Ian help you, by always leaving a link to the article or draft you are talking about. I'm going to assume you are talking about your sandbox, which contains some content apparently destined for the Click tracking article; although I also see that you've contributed to another dozen or two articles. If you could confirm or correct that assumption, that would be helpful.  Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 10:43, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was referring to my sandbox draft. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. I will leave a link next time. Thank you! Best, ColdRainyDay45 (talk) 21:25, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Jen Seidel
I had a concern regarding a Wiki Education project that I hoped you might be able to help with. Jen Seidel was created by JAF081, apparently during an editathon for a course at the University of Maryland. I recently stubbified the article to a single sentence, as that was virtually the only content I could verify with reliable sources. I am considering nominating this article for deletion because I don't think it passes notability guidelines when properly sourced. (The article's subject also gets hits in now-deprecated sources such as the Daily Mail and various affiliates of The Sun.) However, I'm concerned that this might be problematic, as I certainly don't want to discourage students using Wikipedia for educational purposes. I simply don't think that the article can meet current Wikipedia guidelines. I would very much appreciate any thoughts you might have. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 22:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like some of their body paint has received coverage, but it's a little sensationalist. I suppose that's to be a bit expected with the type of artwork she creates, since many news outlets will focus more on the "nearly nude" part than the body paint skill. I did find this Yahoo Lifestyle article and this article from a daily newspaper in NJ about a body paint stunt done in Maryland. It looks like she's likely notable, but finding non-tabloid coverage is going to be the difficult part since this is the type of thing that makes up part of their bread and butter. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping you - we can discuss this more at the article's talk page if you wish. (For full disclosure, I used to work with Ian and I still monitor WE's student activity to a degree since Wikipedia is my jam.) ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks to ReaderofthePack, this is no longer an issue. I believe notability has been established in RS. Thanks again, ReaderofthePack! AleatoryPonderings (talk) 03:50, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Swalker2786 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with citations. If I am citing multiple pages of a source, should it look like it does with a separate citation for each use or should it list sources without page numbers like some in my class have done so there is less duplication. Sorry, I am confused. I am worried my citation part is wrong somehow. Advice is appreciated.

--Swalker2786 (talk) 19:53, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Swalker2786 (talk)
Hello.

Hi Ian, What is expected for a class assignment with respect to page numbers? I have seen both ways and while I want to be precise, my citation section seems messier than other people's. Thank you for your help!

--Swalker2786 (talk) 20:53, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Swalker2786 (talk)
Hello. Hi Ian, Thank you for the RP template but is there a standard way citations are done? I have seen some people who do not add page numbers and I am not sure what the class expectations are. If there is a standardized approach, I will use that.

--Swalker2786 (talk) 15:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Swalker2786 (talk)
Hello.

Hi Ian,

My partner and I are not sure how to move our work onto the class page we are editing. Can you tell me if I can add a section to the page and it will stay until it is graded? Do I copy and paste into the area of the page that I want to add my new section?

Thank you

--Swalker2786 (talk) 23:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Swalker2786 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with structure. I cannot seem to get the subheadings right. Is there a way to make the part I added to the larger article more nested in terms of subheadings? When I highlight the heading for the paragraph, I do not see an option to make a subheading-only change the font, etc. It is due soon, so please let me know

Thank you

--Swalker2786 (talk) 20:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

John Carruthers Stanly
Hi! I've been creating a page for John C. Stanly. I had it all done in my sandbox. I created the page title since it's a new topic. But when I moved my sandbox to the article, I lost contact with it. I got a message that I needed more citations (I only have 3); so it was put into a draft page; but I don't have the link to the text. I just got this message, probably from some autobot:

"I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption."

I can't find this page anywhere. Can you help me move forward? I put a lot of work into this page and I'm so close. I just want to get it published. Thanks, Shifon Shifonf (talk) 23:44, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from 2601:82:C000:CE00:3D6F:D4C5:DC3E:8371 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

getting an article

--2601:82:C000:CE00:3D6F:D4C5:DC3E:8371 (talk) 13:49, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi. Since you aren't logged into your account, I don't know who you are or what class you're associated with. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi! What's your role?
Hi Ian! I'm the faculty member teaching DATS 6450 and you are listed as the "Content Expert" for the course. The students in my class are curious as to what that means. Is there a page I can point them at that describes your role? Simsong (talk) 00:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! A Content Expert is essentially someone that the students (and faculty!) can turn to with any questions about editing on Wikipedia. So for example, if they had a question about something they read in the training modules, their choice of article, sourcing, or policies, they could approach Ian with their questions. No question is too small or random! He's also someone that they can approach with any concerns they have as well, in case they have more of a concern than a question per se. Ian can explain more, but I wanted to jump in and give a quick answer in the meantime. (Used to work as a CE with Wiki Ed, so they can also approach me with any questions as well!) ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:13, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * On a side note, if your students need some suggestions for articles, I can recommend these: Social media mining, Social Blade, Causal analysis, Big data ethics, and Big memory. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:20, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Simsong (talk) 00:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!
You're the goat at teaching us how to work on Wikipedia Articles! Thank you!

Mr.Ek0 (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thank you so much! :) Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:37, 18 September 2020 (UTC)



Notability for academics

 * Hello Ian. I would like to write an article about Patsy Lightbown. She is a Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Concordia University in Montreal, Canada. At the Carleton University Library, there are 379 results under her name including books, articles and chapters in collections. I looked on Scopus, and she has an H-index of 20 and 42 documents. Does she meet the criteria of notability? Thank you for your help with this. I want to make sure before I start my research.--Macbock (talk) 01:18, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response Ian. I was looking at Notability for Academics Notability_(academics). In particular, Criteria 1,2,4 and 5. I thought that these criteria were in lieu of independent published sources about the academic. After looking through the article, my understanding was that because she is a Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Concordia University, has 379 results under her name at the Carleton University Library and has an H-index of 20 and 42 documents on Scopus, she would meet the notability requirement. Is this not the case?--Macbock (talk) 19:35, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Practicing with Talk
Thank you for your help. I hope I am doing this right! Sally Shoemaker (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Zeebazz96 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... Creating a section in my sandbox entitled "Article Evaluation," in which I will take notes on your chosen article's content, tone and sources

--Zeebazz96 (talk) 03:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi! This video covers creating a header on Wikipedia. This page (not a video) also gives some information on how to create headers. Aside from that, here are some directions to help:


 * If you're editing in Visual Editor you can select the header you want by going to the part of the toolbar labeled "paragraph".




 * Clicking on the down arrow will bring up several selections. If you're starting a new section, you want to choose the basic header function. If you want to create a smaller header under an existing section you can choose the other options. Definitely feel free to play around with this in your sandbox - it's what it's there for!




 * If you're not editing in Visual Editor you can always create a header by adding == before and after your header title. If your talk page messages in source mode, you'll see that these use this type of header.


 * Definitely feel free to reach out to me on my talk page if you have any questions! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:31, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your help, ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 12:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

GMO article - student editing
Ian, User:Emarieva, in a College of Wooster Fall 2020 class which you are supporting, recently posted their intention to edit Genetically modified food on that article's talk page. I have suggested they find another article not under discresionary sanctions.Dialectric (talk) 15:59, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from TylerC1 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with getting in my sandbox correctly and writing a selected discography for Josh Graves.

--TylerC1 (talk) 17:06, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! You should be able to edit your sandbox by going to User:TylerC1/sandbox and opening it up in edit mode. There's some information about it in the training modules here, but you may also find these videos on editing with Visual Editor helpful in general. For the specific sandbox draft, you can click on this link - it's the same link that states "Sandbox Draft" on Dashboard (should be visible on the home page for the class as long as you're signed in).
 * From there you can click the "Start the User:TylerC1/Josh Graves page." link, which should get you started. This post on Ask should help as well as this, this, and this.
 * As far as the discography goes, I would stick to the ones that he put out himself. By this I mean that if he released a record named "Title" you would include that. You could also include a posthumous greatest hits album as well, but you would typically leave out albums that compile songs from various different singers (such as "Now this is what I call Music") unless it's particularly noteworthy. Something I always like to do if I'm in doubt is to look at other, similar articles to see how they're set up. So for example, you could look on the articles for other performers to see how their discographies are set up.
 * I hope that this helps and if you have any questions, definitely feel free to ask me! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:44, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from DianaGBG3 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... information on the economics and immigration of Mexico in the '90s.

--DianaGBG3 (talk) 22:55, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not really in a position to help on specific subject-matter content like this. I recommend you discuss this with your instructor, and maybe get in touch with a librarian from your university. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Need Help regarding topic
Hello Ian!

My partner and I are considering writing an article regarding the medal of honor recipients of Utah. There are only a handful of them and most of them have pretty small or weak wiki pages. One recipient has quite a large page on him, Jose F. Valdez. My professor wanted us to check in with you to see if it would be appropriate to make a Medal of Honor recipients of Utah and expanding upon some of the other recipients, while having a small summary on Jose F. Valdez and providing a link to his page?

Let me know, thanks! Banjo2018 (talk) 02:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea on my end (former Wiki Ed employee and general Wikipedia nerd). The Medal of Honor is a very prestigious award and one that would establish notability for receiving it, as far as I'm concerned. I would recommend reviewing list pages for Medal of Honor recipients to see how they're set up, as this can help you figure out how the page would be set up. (List of American Civil War Medal of Honor recipients: G–L, for example.) I also recommend separating them by war, if there are many recipients (ie, 20+) - if there are only a few then that wouldn't be necessary - you can specify the war/reason in the table. (I definitely recommend copying the table from the other list pages, this will make the process with that a lot easier!) ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . I agree. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:14, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Help for improving article
We are improving Avangrid for our project and are currently writing the additions to the article in our sandbox. Is this correct or should we have copied the entire article over and added to it there so the information would be easier to upload at a later date? See User:L.Derrick15/Avangrid. --Sleepmags1 (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , ideally, you should just copy the parts of the article you want to rework into your sandbox, rather than the whole thing. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Image Credit/Citation Check
Hello Ian! I am a student enrolled in one of the courses that is editing Wikipedia (Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities at Rice). I would like to upload an image to an article, and wanted to check and see if this gives proper credit to the creator:

""Abolish ICE Protest and Rally Downtown Chicago Illinois 8-16-18 3128" by www.cemillerphotography.com is licensed under CC BY-SA 2.0".

Could you give me your feedback? Thanks for your time. --MBJAnderson (talk) 20:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes that picture's licensing is compatible with Wikipedia. When you upload it to Wikimedia Commons, I recommend that you pick the "Share images from Flickr" option on the second page of the Upload Wizard. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jaquan moore (talk)
Hello.

I need help with peer reviewing a classmates article please help me thanks--Jaquan moore (talk) 00:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Peer review is something that's done by your classmates in the course. You should get in touch with your instructor if you have questions about this. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Kev1nmcnulty99 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Drafting an article

--Kev1nmcnulty99 (talk) 07:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Kevin Mcnulty
 * , replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Candreaangulo (talk)
Hello.

I need help with going over the improvements and information I added to the E-democracy article. The original article said it was missing a worldwide point of view. I tried to complement already existing paragraphs and I've specifically mentioned the improvements I made. Thanks!

--Candreaangulo (talk) 02:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Lindseyjli3 (talk)
Hello -- I was wondering if you could provide some general feedback on my drafts, specifically about improvements and what sections needs some extra work. I am planning on contributing to two articles: "Social Media in the 2020 United States Presidential Election" and "Social Media and Political Communication in the United States."

Thanks for your help!

--Lindseyjli3 (talk) 04:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:55, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Elade29 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with publishing my sandbox. everytime i press publish it does not work. what am i doing wrong?

--Elade29 (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I took a look - do you have both pages open in edit mode? Sometimes errors can pop up when you copy material from a page that isn't in edit mode. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Help request
Weinbach1 (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)I got a message saying that Wikipedia blocked my account for some reason. I sent a copy of the block message to whomever it said to send it to, and they asked if I was using English or another language. I replied English, but I'm not sure if my message went through. What would you suggest?Weinbach1 (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC) Weinbach1 (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Now I can get on--I'm not blocked anymore. I was not on a public computer, just my laptop at home. Thanks anyway!Weinbach1 (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't see where your account was blocked on the English Wikipedia. Are you using a VPN or some other type of program to hide your IP address? If so, then this needs to be disabled as IPs from these programs are typically blocked. (Long story short, some users have used VPNs as a way to vandalize Wikipedia and evade a block.) If it's not this, are you using the internet in public? Some public IP addresses (like the ones at school, libraries, or places that offer free wifi) can sometimes get blocked as a result of repeated vandalism from that location. Essentially, it's a case of many people using the internet - the odds are high that someone will use it for no good. There is a workaround for this, however, if this is the case! You may need to send a screenshot of what you're seeing to Ian so he can determine what's going on. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Tcochran6 (talk)
Hi Ian,

I just wanted to make sure I'm using acceptable sources for the Wiki page I'll be editing for class. I don't know if you can see the bibliography I've published on my page, but after discussing with the class what might be acceptable or not, I just wanted some reassurance. Are primary sources acceptable or only peer edited ones?

Thank you

--Tcochran6 (talk) 00:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:50, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Help on an women's march edit Graceg77 (talk) 02:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello Ian, my name is Grace and I have an edit that I have done for 2020 Women's March for my class. The project is due soon and I hope you can take a look at it and tell me how it looks and what you think. Thank you for your time.

Women's March Hello, I am wondering if you can take a look at what I have edited to far on 2020 Women's march and let me know if I am doing it correctly. This is a graded project so I want to do it right. ThanksGraceg77 (talk) 05:28, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help Reviewing my edit Women's March Hello, I am wondering if you can take a look at what I have edited to far on 2020 Women's march and let me know if I am doing it correctly. This is a graded project so I want to do it right. Thank you Graceg77 (talk) 00:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Beginning editor navigation
Hi: I am trying to practice my editing after completing module 3. It suggests that I introduce myself to another student via their talk page. How do I find this page? I found a list of students in my course dashboard and then "hit a wall"

Thanks Cafe.doppio (talk) 03:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Every user page has an associated talk page, so when you click on a username, just click the "talk" tab at the top of the page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Editing
Good Evening Ian, I chose to review and edit the Australian Women's Health Network Page. I immediately went over to their website to use it as a source. I have not found other sources to be useful and just stuck with the website. Also, I was wondering if you could give any pointers on what topics on the article I should write about. I have have a bunch of random facts in my sandbox that I do not know will be of any value towards the article as well.

Best, Elliott Tran — Preceding unsigned comment added by TranElliott (talk • contribs) 03:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I would start by tracking down independent sources, and looking at what they consider important or noteworthy about the group. I would also look for other articles about organisations to see what how they handle layout (what sections, what sorts of facts). Then follow the layout you see in other articles. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from VillusionV (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... checking to see if my topic of choice has enough reliable sources to create a brand new article about. I have written a short summary of WattTime in Sandbox, my topic of choice along with my credited sources.

--VillusionV (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)Villusion
 * Hi! I took a look myself and I'm concerned that the sourcing is almost entirely primary as the sourcing is either WattTime's website, looks to be based heavily on press releases, or are from people or organizations that are partnered or otherwise affiliated with the nonprofit. What's needed here are things like newspaper or academic/scholarly books or articles about WattTime. Part of the reason for this is because it's needed to establish notability, but secondary, independent sourcing also helps with the page's neutrality. Primary sources are almost always going to be written in a way that promotes the topic/person/organization, as primary sources are very often used to promote or "sell" the topic to the person reading the page. It's not something that is inherently bad, mind you, but all of this promotional and non-neutral prose makes it much easier for this to seep into what we're writing.
 * A source like this is usable as an independent, reliable source as far as I know, although it wouldn't be as strong as a book published through an academic press or a journal article in a scholarly journal might be. I'd definitely hit up your college's library to see if they have any offerings that could be of use. If you're unable to physically access the location, then your library does offer a way to contact a librarian and ask for help finding material - including subject specialists!. Don't hesitate to ask them, as this is very much what they live for! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thank you! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Bwho (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

editing a page on Susan Aaron-Taylor.

--Bwho (talk) 15:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , what sort of help do you need? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Lozitskyandrew (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

--Lozitskyandrew (talk) 15:54, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , is there something specific I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Celerysticks (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Creating a sandbox for an article I am editing for class. I did the training regarding drafting edits to an article as a group. It said that in order to create a new sandbox, you must go to your account and edit the URL. At the end of the existing URL, I put "/article_name". In the training it said that the next step was to click on "Create source" in the upper right corner. I couldn't find "Create source" anywhere on my screen. I'd appreciate any help you could give!

Brayden --Celerysticks (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Need Help Request
Need Help Request Hi Ian! Can you review my sandbox article on my user page to see that I formatted the citations correctly? I am not sure how many citations I am supposed to have. Is there a happy medium I should shoot for? Thank you so much. -Tiana (COM 482 1 (talk) 23:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC))
 * Hi! I took a look myself - it looks like some of the sources didn't come out properly because they're proxy URLs. What this means is basically that the web link has your college information in it. So as a result, Wikipedia's citation tool can't bring back the correct information. Here's an example using a URL from my alma mater, VCU. The following are links to the same source:
 * https://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.proxy.library.vcu.edu/pmc/articles/PMC4991646/
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991646/
 * I've bolded VCU's proxy information - with this, it's likely that plugging this into the citation tool will just bring back something like "Shibboleth Authentication Request" or similar. Sometimes it's easy to fix the proxy content by just removing the proxy information, but to be honest sometimes the easiest way is to either put all of the information in by hand or to try googling the article/source title and see if there's a proxy-free link you can use to bring up the source material.
 * On a side note, the draft does have some issues with neutrality per language like "has lead the way in providing learning opportunities". There is also some comparison drawn to other, similar programs - this can be seen as original research and promotional unless it's something stated in an independent reliable secondary source. These are all things that may not seem all that promotional in other situations, but can be fairly promotional on Wikipedia. The draft just needs some editing for tone. A good option would be to look at how similar articles are styled. While this isn't a college on its own as much as it's an initiative, a lot of the structure would be the same, such as there being a history section, academics (details about types of classes or degrees), accreditation (if applicable), administration and organization, and so on. I hope this helps! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:37, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Rfgovaerts (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... to know when I am in the right place to start typing in into my own draft wikipedia page Rfgovaerts (talk) 22:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

--Rfgovaerts (talk) 22:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Yeeli24 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Will you be able to help me restore to the previous version because I think I accidentally deleted some important coding on the editing page. The sandbox and editing page look different after the code deleted.

--Yeeli24 (talk) 07:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see where there was any code deleted - this is on the page User:Yeeli24/sandbox, right? In any case, to revert your additions you can go to the history page via the "view history" tab on your sandbox/draft. You can do this with any page on Wikipedia, with every article as well. :) This will list past versions of the page. If you click on the version prior to the latest one, you can open this up in edit mode and save it. This will revert your actions. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:36, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Practice edit: georgia mason
I made an argument about this botanists page: please look it over and comment. My bottom line: she is notable but more supporting references and citations are not available or do not exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Georgia_Mason

Thanks very much, Gary MCafe.doppio (talk) 21:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ian: please look at the WP Michael Faraday and tell me how the Info box on the R side with image/born/died/known for is created. Also, is it worth listing all the places I searched when trying to improve a page like Georgia Mason? I am trying to save future contributors time and effort. At some point, who can remove the "THIS PAGE NEEDS IMPROVEMENT" banner?Cafe.doppio (talk) 17:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi would you please look over my Georgia Mason talk page entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Georgia_Mason and my sandbox proposed new page (just references) 2 and comment Cafe.doppio (talk) 23:38, 24 October 2020 (UTC)67.169.193.129 (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello with Sandbox
Hello Ian, I am a student with Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary. I am working in a team of three people on an article for Ehud. We are all new to this...Is there a way to put the article in our sandbox so that we can edit it? Can we all work on the same page?

Thanks Erin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danishbaker (talk • contribs) 17:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


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Need help request from AudraPlattsburgh (talk)
Hello.

I need help with getting the article i am working on into my sandbox

--AudraPlattsburgh (talk) 19:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Call for additional sources/references
I chose to practice my new WP skills with an edit on WP scientist Georgia_Mason. After a careful search of the suggested secondary and tertiary sources we have at our Univ library I was not able to find additional source material. How do I "refute" or argue against the assertion? Researchers can only attempt this a "reasonable" number of times before we quit trying? To my way of thinking, the accomplishments are well documented and her work is adequate to remain notable...Thanks Cafe.doppio (talk) 16:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ian: thanks for helping with our newby stuff. Please tell me how to change my proposed nomination for WP in Women Scientists at Portland State University. Also, please tell me how to find Helaine, the other mentor (wikiEd) and for that matter, anyone's talk page. Ciao Cafe.doppio (talk) 15:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


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Discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish Folk Dances
You are invited to join the discussion at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish Folk Dances. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:00, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Wikiwarsaw (talk)
Hello.

I was told I needed to disable the categories on my page. I am very confused and don't really understand what a category is and why it needs to be disabled or how to disable it. Could you please give me clarification? Thank you so much.

--Wikiwarsaw (talk) 20:37, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Mosiejichaels (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Making a sandbox page. I went through the trainings but I cannot see my name at the top right of my screen as the training suggests.

--Mosiejichaels (talk) 15:28, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Are you sure you're logged in? You can check this by looking at the top right, where it should either display a whole bunch of items starting with either your username (if you're logged in) or a line saying Not logged in. If you are logged in but still can't find it the notice on your userpage contains a direct link (User:Mosiejichaels/sandbox). Hope this helps you!
 * , are you play with messages like these or do you prefer to answer them yourself? Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  14:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your assistance. Thank you! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your assistance. Thank you! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from JesseA123 (talk)JesseA
Hello.

I need help with...

I need feedback on my sandbox draft.

--JesseA123 (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)JesseA
 * , I removed the sandbox template and added a category, but it looks like a good start. Some more independent sourcing would be helpful though. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:50, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jaccris (talk)
Hello I needed help moving my article onto the main space? It says that the source destination titles are the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaccris (talk • contribs) 05:03, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello.

I need help with...

Moving my article into Main page

--Jaccris (talk) 05:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Jaccris


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:27, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sexualities and Genders in Zapotec Oaxaca
Ian, the underlying article is currently at Draft:Sexualities and genders in Zapotec Oaxaca. According to the course page, all Wikipedia work was supposed to be completed last week, even though the course itself continues until December 18.

The article appears to have been moved to mainspace a couple of times, but was moved back to Draft due to various issues noted by Fram's summary when moving the article back to draft. My question is whether the article will be worked on further. If not, the DYK nomination, which has yet to be transcluded, should be closed. If there's a good chance that it will soon be in a position to pass AfC or otherwise be approved for mainspace, then it would probably be simpler to keep the nomination open temporarily.

If I don't hear one way or the other by the end of the month, I'll close it. Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . I gave the student fairly extensive feedback (by email) this week, trying to help them get it into something (a lot) less essay-like. I'll keep an eye on it and let you know. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Transition from sandbox to my first WP notable person
Hi Ian: cafe.doppio WikiEd student here. My sandbox has several primary references (subject, Janine Caira is first or second author) and two biographical references. I have a fair amount of notes from the bio pieces that I will use for the lead paragraph and then some. Should I author all of it in my sandbox (first/2nd draft) and then at some magical point create the page>cut>paste? When, please? []Cafe.doppio (talk) 20:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I always recommend drafting it in your sandbox first, as this gives you a chance to work on it at your leisure and try out different things. When you edit live, there's the expectation that any additions will be "ready" as soon as you save your work - meaning that it'll be written in a neutral encyclopedic style and use proper sourcing. When you work in the sandbox you can stop and come back to your work if you have to step away, use it as a general scratchpad, or so on. As far as when it's ready, you can always run things through Ian and your instructor (or me!) if you have any questions. On a side note, since this looks like it's going to be a new article, you may find this framework handy. Essentially this is a template (of sorts) for biographies. Not all of the sections will be applicable for every person and there may be some that you need that aren't there, but the basics are there. Another thing that would be useful would be to use a similar article as an example or guide while drafting. So for example, while they're not the exact same type of scientists the articles on Nina Demme, Carl Linnaeus, Barbara McClintock, or Charles Darwin would be good articles to use as a guide since they're among the best examples of biographies on scientists on Wikipedia and show a good depth of coverage. Your draft doesn't have to be as comprehensive, of course, but they can give you some good ideas for sections and starting points. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  02:56, 29 October 2020 (UTC)I responded to you peer, Reader...Pack and am all set with regard to these questions Cafe.doppio (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Cemacquarrie (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello.

I need help with...

I'm working on editing the Sperm whale article for a class project (Deep Sea Biology). I've made some minor edits to the article already, but when I tried to make some more edits to the article just before, I no longer have the "edit" tab at the top of the article next to the "read" tab. Instead it says "edit source". Can you let me know why this is, and how I can fix it so I can continue to make edits? Cemacquarrie (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! It looks like Wikipedia switched you over to source mode somehow, but this is an easy fix. You just need to follow the instructions here on how to go back to Visual Editor mode. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  02:45, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help on both of these ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Christina Silva1 (talk)Christina Silva
Hello.

I need help with...I started my article, references and all. I hit the publish page button as I'm supposed to. I tried to go back in and I can't find any of the work that I did. HELP!!

--Christina Silva1 (talk) 21:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Christina


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Cpatton06 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

cite properly , i want to make sure it was done properly.

--Cpatton06 (talk) 15:34, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Which page is this on? Most of the time Wikipedia's auto citing works quite well but you can always check the wikitext to make sure it is done properly. Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  15:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Nicholas100000 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...tone. I feel like some of my statements may not be neutral. Also if there are additional sections that I should include in the article. Also, could you check my references. Some articles ask me to check date values, but I don't know how to correct this.

--Nicholas100000 (talk) 21:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! When checking for neutrality, a good rule of thumb is to look and see if there is anything written from a specific point of view. What I mean by that is that you should look to see if there are any words like "excitingly", "best", or if anything is written in a way that presents something as better than something else. Once/if you've spotted something, look to see if it's attributed to someone/something. I'll give you more of a rundown on your talk page. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Arina.clavel (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I do not understand what to start with. There are so many different pages and links.

--Arina.clavel (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Since you are editing Wikipedia as part of a school project I assume you will get some guidance from that direction, however that is moreso an matter for Until that time you can check out Contributing to Wikipedia, the Communtiy Portal and the Task Center  Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  13:06, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Asartea. Thank you. I have got the tutorials, and I think I am starting to figure that out.--Arina.clavel (talk) 13:58, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The Field of Aquatic Science
I noticed The Field of Aquatic Science in the new article bot report and noticed that it has an uncomfortable amount of close copying. Since it was created by a student editor and the course page lists you as attached Wiki Ed staff, I figured I'd sound out your opinion for what to do about it. Cheers, XOR&#39;easter (talk) 22:40, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , that's problematic (but at least the copying seems to be from a PD source). I see someone has RFD'd it, but I think I'll move the bulk of it back to their sandbox and work with them to see if they can salvage anything useful from it. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Nursing class
Hi, Ian. There seems to be a nursing class that started in the last week. I started to leave one a welcome note, then spotted the others:

There may be more. I'm sure they'd benefit from some Wiki Ed guidance. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 12:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the heads-up. It doesn't look like the class is working with Wiki Education - let me see if I can figure out what best to do here. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought that might be the case: None of them have talk pages, and it's unusual for a class to start editing articles before receiving Wiki Ed welcomes. Likely irrelevant now, but it looks as if there was a similar class in July (Baljinder90, Amri94, Thedustv, Ccking7, and Dwilli93). I hope you're able to find the instructor without too much trouble. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 04:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Let me know if you need any help doing detective work! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe that it's a class at Washington State, if that helps. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  11:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice . Thanks! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jcarp7 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Editing my user page in the sandbox; there is no "edit" option in my user page, only an option to "edit source." Others can edit my user sandbox, but I cannot edit mine nor others'. Therefore, I can't edit sandboxes unless I create an entirely new page (which others cannot access). If you could get back to me about how to edit this sandbox, that would be fantastic.

Thanks!

--Jcarp7 (talk) 03:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , It looks like Wikipedia somehow switched you out of Visual editor to Source. Luckily enough there are some excellent instructions on how to switch back here. Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  05:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jcarp7 (talk)
Hello.

Thank you so much for helping me resolve the issue with editing the page! However, now I am having troubles publishing the changes I made on the page; every time I hit the "publish changes" button, nothing happens. What should I do?

Thanks!

--Jcarp7 (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , What exactly is the problem? Are you not seeing the publish changes button, or are you not able to click it, or are you able to click it but nothing is actually changing? What article is this on? Asartea   Trick  undefined  Treat  09:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * try switching to source mode as explained on this training slide and see if you can save ok. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

FYI
User_talk:Ebweav, Sadads (talk) 12:45, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the heads-up. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from JRDavisjr (talk)
Hello.

I need help with choosing an article.My class is working on creating two articles. We are collaborating on these articles. I am trying to figure out if I am supposed to choose a separate article to work on. If so, I cannot find the list of assigned articles to choose from. Can you please help me?

--JRDavisjr (talk) 15:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Professional societies as sources
Hi: I have found some biographical information about my candidate within the speech given with an award bestowed the scientist. It is an American group called Society of Parasitology. They publish a monthly journal and many/most of the international researchers in the field belong as members. The award comes from the society, not the presenter. Is this a reasonable source for me to cite in her WP page? How is it better or worse than a Washington Post article? I am especially concerned about "fluff terms" as described in the discouraged list of Editing Wikipedia brochure. I am not generating the language; I am paraphrasing or quoting the award presenter. Cafe.doppio (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , a speech isn't likely to be fact-checked, so as far as sources go, it's important to attribute the information to the speaker. Something from the Washington Post, on the other hand, should have been fact checked, so while it should be sourced clearly, you can present it with less nuance. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) Had a problem with references and citations. Believe I have worked it out. CheersCafe.doppio (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please look at the sandbox and re-direct for my work. I went to our Wiki Educ site and tried to access my work and it was empty. My active work sandbox is cafe.doppio/sandbox and the WikiEd determined site is User:Cafe.doppio/Janine Caira. I tried to move it and ended up with a re-direct. Please adviseCafe.doppio (talk) 00:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC) Hi Ian: I have received a resumé from the candidate. It has things like Univ of Connecticut served on and/or chaired more than 100 departmental, college, and university-wide committees 1985-2020. I cannot verify this on any UConn site but her peer accolades make me doubt fraudulence. Must I omit it? As noted above, academic peers from other universities have publicly attested to similar accomplishments (award dinner professional society with published journal account)If I get written confirmation from a department official, how can it be used as verification?Cafe.doppio (talk) 00:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , the key is verifiability. If readers can't verify the content, you can't use it. Note that verifiable content doesn't have to be online, it can be something a reader may have to request through inter-library loan. But it needs to be verifiable. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from PatyKing (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Jenifer Neel Dale article

--PatyKing (talk) 19:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Patricia King Sainos

Hello
Hello.

I need help with...

--PatyKing (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , what do you need help with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from BlueBeamBotanist (talk)
Hello.

I'm wondering how to add the list of taxonomic ranking on the right hand side of the article like many species articles on Wikipedia has. I also want to make sure if my citations are acceptable as of now. Thank you.

--BlueBeamBotanist (talk) 19:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I added an infobox to your sandbox draft. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

sugar article
https://impakter.com/sweet-sorghum-better-sugarcane/#:~:text=In%20sorghum%2C%20the%20production%20of,sugarcane%20in%20a%20whole%20year.

nice additional info?

https://impakter.com/sweet-sorghum-better-sugarcane/#:~:text=In%20sorghum%2C%20the%20production%20of,sugarcane%20in%20a%20whole%20year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.138.128.179 (talk) 21:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It's really hard to know if this is a reliable source or not. Their "About" section makes big claims about who writes for them - they say they include global leaders and thinkers from the United Nations, NGO, Institutes, research centers as well as Nobel and Pulitzer winners - but don't give any specifics. So it's hard to say if they're credible or not.
 * I also recommend that you log in, otherwise your instructor can't track your work. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:58, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Citation Question
Hello, I have some questions concerning citing sources. I obviously do not want to cite a source that is copyrighted, but I am having trouble figuring out exactly how copyrighting works. I wanted to use a book by Ben H. Bagdikian, The New Media Monopoly, as a source but of course because it is a published book, it is copyrighted. However, my professor gave us a pdf of the introduction, does that make it okay to cite it? I have two other sources listed in my bibliography that are also from pdfs my professor gave; one is a book and one is a journal article. I wasn't sure about all this so I looked at the bibliography for the article I am working on to try and see what other sources have been cited, and I saw that the book by Bagdikian has actually already been cited. But like I said before, the book is copyrighted. I just don't really understand this. Could you help me? --Sloopawls (talk) 07:39, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , You absolutely can - and should - cite copyright sources. Just don't quote them (or if you use quotes, keep them to a minimum). Information can't be copyrighted, just the specific way it is presented. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

need help with my article
Hi, can you see my article sandbox drat and give me some feedback about what I have to correct DTM2020UPRC (talk) 06:55, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Panacotta101 (talk)
Hello Ian,

I am panacotta101. I hope you could look through my draft and give me some suggestions on how to improve my article. The topic I am writing on is Web Browsing History. The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Panacotta101/sandbox?#Web_Browsing_History_Draft_2

--Panacotta101 (talk) 08:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)panacotta101
 * , Your sources look good and the structure looks good. As far as content goes, I think you'll get better recommendations from your classmates' peer review and your instructor's feedback. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Reorganizing Socialist Feminism Wikipedia page
Hello! I am editing the Socialist Feminism wiki page for a class project. I am proposing that we restructure how the page is organized. Topics such as “Intersectionality”, “Motherhood and the private sphere”, and “Gender pay gap” should be moved up the page and put after the Overview or after the differing theoretical perspective on socialist feminism, and be put under the title “Socialist Feminist Core Issues”. Maybe my communication studies major is coming out, but how the information is structured and displayed anywhere is important. People don’t look past the first few sections of a wiki page, so core issues should be highlighted or discussed first so readers know what socialist feminism is ‘fighting’ for. I am thinking of changing the organization to this (if this is allowed): Overview/Summary, Core Issues, Socialist Feminist Traditions (moving Anarcha-feminism and Marxist Feminism to traditions), Later Theoretical Works, Theorists, and Praxis. Thoughts? Phlaventall (talk) 18:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , This is something to discuss with the other editors active on that page and come to a consensus. Post a suggestion on the talk page and see what people think. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Janae2002 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I cannot figure out how to create a group sandbox for my partner and I. I have reviewed the training modules and I am still very confused. We have been drafting our article in a google docs but I would like to copy it over to a sandbox.

--Janae2002 (talk) 20:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I made a new sandbox Janae2002/Anti-Indian_Legislation and cannot figure out how to save it so that my partner can also find it. I have a bunch of stuff in this sandbox but cannot see any save button. Can you help? Thanks so much, Raeleigh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janae2002 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Shadow profile
Hiya Ian, I see you're listed as the Wikipedia Expert for Wiki Ed/University of California, Berkeley/PLP - Berkeley Interdisciplinary Research Group on Privacy - Coleman Lab (Fall 2020). I wanted to let you know that I just moved an article by one of the students in this course from the mainspace, where they'd moved it to Shadow profile, back to their userspace at User:Nankingaszz/sandbox. I originally proposed it for deletion but another editor pointed out the creator was a WikiEdu student, so I userfied it instead. I see this is the third time the page was improperly moved to the mainspace—do you think you could help the student understand why it's not ready? The moves are becoming disruptive. Thanks much, GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I believe they did it again at Shadow profile only this time by just copypasting the lead which means I can't do anything. Could you delete it please?  Asartea  Talk  undefined  Contribs  06:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw that as well, can an admin just salt the page title temporarily and delete it as a test page? Surely pages this bad aren't supposed to be moved to the mainspace from Wiki Education classes, they shouldn't need to go through PROD or AfD in my opnion. Dylsss(talk &bull;&#32;contribs) 06:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ugh, there's another completely unsourced Wiki Edu article at Hancock (programming language), earlier today I coverted Soft Privacy Technologies to a redirect as it was an unsourced essay as well. Dylsss(talk &bull;&#32;contribs) 06:26, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Especially Hancock (programming language) is irritating since both pages have been edited since then meaning someone needs to clean those up  Asartea   Talk  undefined  Contribs  07:38, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up (and the cleanup). I've been in touch with the instructor and their TA (they emailed me) and they're actively working on correcting these students' misunderstandings. I really appreciate the help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:07, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This student has just moved the article to the mainspace for the fifth time, twice more since I left this message. I have indefinitely blocked them as a result–once their instructor/TA is able to convey the issue here I'm willing to lift the block, but this needs to stop. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:18, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this. I thought it was resolved last week, but apparently there must have been some miscommunication. I will get on this today. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:27, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Swedish Creative Commons Label
Hello Ian, I was wondering if I would be able to safely use the photo on this page for a school assignment article about Actinobacillus Equuli: https://www.vetbact.org/popup/image.php?imgtable=vetbact_images&imgid=668&lang=en

It looks like a Swedish Creative Commons label, "Attribution 2.5 Sweden (CC BY 2.5 SE)". If allowed, how do I safely upload this photo onto wikipedia?

Thank you! Clarissa.jimenez (talk) 06:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC) Clarissa J
 * Hello, that image looks like it's actually CC-BY-NC-ND, non-commercial licenses aren't compatible with Wikipedia, so unfortunately you wouldn't be able to use this photo. Dylsss(talk &bull;&#32;contribs) 14:55, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:49, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!! Good to know. Clarissa.jimenez (talk) 00:13, 14 November 2020 (UTC) clarissa

Need help request from Major.blaizer (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I need help with starting my article in my sandbox, frankly I am a little confused on it. I have all of my information, I just need to put it in the sandbox.

--Major.blaizer (talk) 21:35, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

students using low quality references
See my comment at Talk:Stefania Calomfirescu-Kory, a student in Wiki Ed/Florida International University/History of Medicine through Art - Women in Red Biographies (Fall) The refs. in Carbaminohemoglobin have some problems also.  DGG ( talk ) 02:09, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . This class is supposed to be staying in sandboxes until their work can be reviewed. I will get in touch with the instructor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:31, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Biomedical engineering class
It's another group of students who don't seem to have met the lovely people of Wiki Ed:



I'm still wondering how ReaderofthePack linked the nursing class to Washington State - maybe she'll know where this group is from, too. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 19:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Mostly it's just looking for tells, like proxy URLs, usernames with school info in them, and the like. For example, given the article type, it's likely that the BME in one editor's name refers to biomedical engineering. A lot of schools offer this, but it helps narrow things down. Admittedly I'll also do a little searching to see if a common thread pops up elsewhere. I should probably not post the school names online, though - that may be seen as too close to doxing, even if the intention is to provide them with resources. I'm pretty sure that I know which school this is, but not the class so I'll contact Ian and let him know. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The BME = biomedical engineering is from the article they're working on (of course it could stand for something else: hard to decide which is the most entertaining possibility there) . I found both classes in the course of fixing CS1 errors. I'll be glad if Wiki Ed can work with the instructor to show them how to avoid those, but it's more important that they learn about MEDRS. Thanks for your help. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 04:43, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , 's ability to find these classes is just plain magic. That's all :) Thank you both so much for your help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:42, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Uploaded Photo on Accident
Hello, I was working on my User Page and uploaded a picture of my dog as part of my homework, but before publishing it, I found out that I need to upload images to Wikimedia Commons first. But now that I try to upload the picture to Wikimedia, it says that the image already exists, even though I never published it. Q: Is it possible to delete a photo from Wikimedia? Or at least edit the description, because that's ultimately what I want to change. Thank you, I hope I formatted this right. --Kim.v.99 (talk) 02:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, . Your file is on Commons here. You can click on the edit link next to the Summary on that page to change the description. If for some reason that doesn't work (images aren't my speciality), please feel free to post here again and Ian or someone else who's more knowledgeable about these things than I am will be able to help you. Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 02:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Now what ?
I guess they don't communicate on Wiki ... now they want to edit a Featured article :)  Since they removed that one, I think they are confused still about which article is which.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  20:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I asked Helaine to email the instructor and ask them to explain the problem to the students. Hopefully that will sort things out. Hopefully... Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ian ... it is so frustrating when students don't respond to talk. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  20:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Utilizing Wiki Edu's Bibliography
Hello, Ian.

I want to draft a bibliography on my Wiki Edu dashboard. How would I format my sources before adding to my sandbox? Hicung (talk) 18:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , It doesn't really matter with the bibliography exercise. When you're actually adding the sources to an article it's easiest to just use the formatting that's generated by the Cite tool. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Newyou2020 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... recovering my draft

I clicked publish but the page than deleted itself and when I went back everything was gone. I was logged in through my class website with my username - that is to say that I was definitely logged in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyou2020 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I was editing in a sandbox for approximately three hours today on renewable energy in Ethiopia. The sandbox had a general overview on renewable energy as well as pieces on biomass, wind, and hydropower. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyou2020 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

--Newyou2020 (talk) 21:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I don't see any edits from you. Are you sure you were logged in? If you didn't click on the "publish" button, there's no way to recover your work unfortunately. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , every edit you made with your account that is saved can be found through this link: Special:Contributions/Newyou2020. I wish I could do more for you, but I don't have access to any better way to track things. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Andy yutong Zhou (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I just type several thing in the sandbox which is about Basketball efficiency. And it was suddenly disappear. Can you help me fix what I just typed in

--Andy yutong Zhou (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Moving of Ali El-Hajj
I moved this completely unreferenced article back to their user subpage, however the student moved it back to mainspace, I've BLP prodded it, so if no references are added in seven days, the article will be deleted. They've also tried to move their empty sandbox to mainspace (accidentally). Just so you know. Dylsss(talk contribs) 14:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've de-prodded this since the subject was born more than 115 years ago, it isn't actually covered by the WP:BLP policy, but it's still not a great article. Dylsss(talk contribs) 15:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I moved it back to their sandbox. It isn't nearly ready for mainspace. Thanks for the note. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from ALESC20 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

The lead of the article that I'm updating. A user on the talk page of Native American rhetoric suggested a portion that outlined a few commonalities of Native American rhetoric. To do that I need to introduce some information about the term Native American since the research on Native American rhetoric specifically grapples with the term in the context of colonialism. And I want to make sure the info is still appropriate for the lead section. I'm having quite a bit of trouble. Also, I want to check if I'm drafting in the correct place. I clicked on the sandbox draft link under the my articles link. I just realized that the link does not open my personal sandbox page and I want to make sure I haven't screwed anything up. Especially because I just realized that I've been running up the edit count.

--ALESC20 (talk) 00:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Kindly help
Hello.

I need help with choosing an article. I have tried selecting an article and making changes but I see no difference. I feel stuck on this. Can you please help me? Your swift response will be highly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qiuyan Zuo (talk • contribs)


 * Can you explain what you did, and what you expected to happen by didn't? Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I think a Wiki Edu student needs some help:
They've had their userpage deleted three times, created articles in mainspace which clearly weren't meant to be, e.g. Andrea Gonzalez/Sandbox, and even so, it is a duplicate of Metrodora. They clearly need some guidence. Thanks. Dylsss(talk contribs) 23:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've been trying. Hopefully we can sort out the confusion. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:10, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Deleting a photo
How do I delete the example image from my Sandbox page? Christina Silva1 (talk) 02:18, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Just click on the image when you're in edit mode and use backspace/delete to remove it. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Responses please
Hi Ian. You are listed as involved in Wiki Ed/Washington University in St Louis/Behavioral Ecology (Fall 2020). From what I've seen of it, it is a good project, producing nice, interesting and informative texts. Since most of the project members are novices in Wikipedia, there are of course also a lot of problems with their texts. I have commented a few of them, but seen no response, not even on the projects talk page. Could you (pl) please be more responsive. --Ettrig (talk) 17:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm sorry about that, but given the numbers of students we're supporting (6700 right now) the odds of me missing a note on a student's page are pretty high, and I don't think most instructors look at course talk pages. If you ping me on a message, I will see it, but without a ping I probably won't.
 * I will follow up with these students and ask their instructor to contact them as necessary. Thanks for getting in touch with me. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Lots of students, Fine. Lots of problems, Just to be expected. For this to work, we need the students to be responsive to feed-back. This must be built into the process. A first (obvious?) step would be a clear instruction about this to instructors so that they instruct the students. Right? --Ettrig (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes. We've built training modules for students which discuss all of this. By and large, students get it, and they know they should be discussing things, they should be using talk pages. And this instructor in particular has been doing this assignment for a while, and it pretty good at it usually (though with remote instruction and all that, I suspect that things aren't going to be communicated as effectively). Some people just don't get it though. Sometimes it requires an extra nudge by email, either from me or the instructor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes. We've built training modules for students which discuss all of this. By and large, students get it, and they know they should be discussing things, they should be using talk pages. And this instructor in particular has been doing this assignment for a while, and it pretty good at it usually (though with remote instruction and all that, I suspect that things aren't going to be communicated as effectively). Some people just don't get it though. Sometimes it requires an extra nudge by email, either from me or the instructor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Kenzi.christensen (talk)
Hello.

I need help with making sure the language of my wikipeia article is the right tone for Wikipedia

--Kenzi.christensen (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Nice work Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Content contribution not displaying correctly
Hi Ian, I am editing a Wikipedia article Bluespace as part of a class assignment, and after I added content to it -including all the references- the wiki education dashboard is not displaying the references as if they were my contribution -shaded in purple-, but instead they look as if they have been previously in the article. How could this be fixed? This is somehow important because I am being graded on the quality and consistency of my content and references. thank you so much! Pilar Botana (talk) 01:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , that tool displays references fairly inconsistently. If you're concerned about what you'll be graded on, you need to get in touch with your instructor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Ian, this is very helpful! Pilar Botana (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jcarp7 (talk)
Hello. My partner and I just published our Wikipedia page, but all throughout the page it lists several "cite errors." However, upon checking each of these errors, I couldn't find any problems with the citations. Then, in edit mode, I discovered a new citation that wasn't there on the original page, but is there in the edit mode--a citation that wasn't really a citation, but instead was a link that took me to the same Wikipedia page. The citation has an error, I believe, because the citations are not supposed to be just links to a separate page--for some reason, the link was created as a citation, and I'm having a hard time deleting these citations in edit mode so I can get rid of these "cite errors." Do you think you could take a look at these cite errors, either in the read page or edit page? Thank you so much!

--Jcarp7 (talk) 15:08, 19 November 2020 (UTC)Jcarp7

Need help request from Jcarp7 (talk)
Hi again!

My page is titled, "American political conspiracy theories" if you need to search it up.

Thanks!

--Jcarp7 (talk) 16:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)Jcarp7
 * , I'm not certain what you are seeing but American political conspiracy theories looks fine to me  Asartea  Talk  undefined  Contribs  17:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The issues were resolved, thank you!

128.187.116.5 (talk) 17:43, 19 November 2020 (UTC)Jcarp7


 * Great to know, . And thanks for checking, ; I appreciate your help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:50, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Removing Template Flag
Hi Ian,

I was hoping to petition to have the "article needs to be updated" template flag removed, on my article Women and HIV/AIDS.

Thank you.

Christy
 * If you believe that your edits have fixed the problems, you're free to remove the notice yourself. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Deleting citations?
Hi Ian,

I added citations to my Sandbox today but made some errors. I couldn't figure out how to delete them. Could you please tell me how to do this?

Thank you,

Catherine--Macbock (talk) 21:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , just click on the citation where it appears in the body of the text (the number, eg [4]) and use the backspace or delete key to remove it. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Lyz.Merola (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... my citation! I have an "invisible" character in my citation that I can't seem to fix. I have tried removing the whole citation and retyping it in manually.

Erin Fitzgerald MPA, Sarah Elspeth Patterson, Darby Hickey, Cherno Biko| (December 2015). "Meaningful Work: TRANSGENDER EXPERIENCES IN THE SEX TRADE" (PDF). TransEquality.org. Retrieved 20 October 2020. line feed character in |title= at position 41 (help)

--Lyz.Merola (talk) 22:03, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , it was a hard return in the title. I fixed it for you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sexualities and Genders in Zapotec Oaxaca
Ian, I wrote you about this last month, when it was bouncing back and forth between draftspace and mainspace. I appreciate that you got in touch with the nominator at that time.

The article seems to have settled down into mainspace, but has a template about an inadequate lead which would prevent its promotion, and still has not been transcluded for DYK by the nominator, who hasn't edited Wikipedia in a couple of weeks.

If something hasn't been done about both these things by Thanksgiving, I don't see any point in continuing to keep the nomination open; it's already been over a month without ever having been transcluded. If you'd like additional leniency, do let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for the ping. I emailed the instructor to ask the student to fix the lead. If they can't do it in the next few days, I will do it myself and transclude the page for them and manage the nom. I think it's a really interesting and worthwhile hook. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Ian, nothing's been done. Please take over, since you want this one to go the distance. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Ian, final call. If nothing has been done by the end of the day on Friday, UTC, I will be closing it as abandoned without the nomination having been completed/transcluded. Thanks for your attention. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Kambo Cleansing
Good morning Ian! Thank you for taking the time to read my message. I have a concern regarding the Original article I am editing as a Wikipedia assignment for my school. I was doing all the changes in my Sandbox. Unfortunately, by mistake, I published a change I was making to the original article. I did the change and published it by mistake. I apologize. I got confused because the page I am currently working on practically the same as the original article. I want to inform you because I do not want the change I made to alter the article's information. I hope that my change can be undone.

Kindly, BenignoN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenignoN (talk • contribs) 11:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , if there's a problem people can revert them easily. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from AdamTski (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I recently used some sources to edit an article on my sandbox, before I clicked publish I noticed it showed me a list of predatory journals which shouldn't be used and I didn't get to see which of them I used so I need to know so I can get rid of those sources. Please help me find these sour sources.

--AdamTski (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , the list you saw was this: Dylsss(talk contribs) 16:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Mmombrun15 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

how do i edit my sandbox?

--Mmombrun15 (talk) 14:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , you should see a button named edit at the top right of the page (between read and history). Just click that, make any changes you want and then click publish changes, give an edit summary and click the new publish changes button again  Asartea  Talk    Contributions  16:46, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

migrating page content to a wiki draft not created by me
Dear Ian, After I edited the page bluespaces, I discovered that there is a wiki draft titled Blue space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Blue_space that addresses a similar topic. The title of that page would be the preferred one for the content in the current bluespace page, although the page has been flagged and it is not public. Is it possible for me to edit the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Blue_space and migrate all the content added in bluespace. The reason for this request is that the term "blue space" is the correct one, and the one that people would use when doing an internet search. By having the two words connected "bluespace" I am most likely reducing the traffic to the page. Could you please recommend how to go about this? In addition, is there any way to add synonyms to the page title? ie: Bluespace (blue space, blue spaces) Thank you, PilarPilar Botana (talk) 00:29, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've performed a pagemove to rename the article from "bluespace" to "blue space." Since you've already made substantial edits to the article, you shouldn't have to worry about the draft.  bibliomaniac 1  5  06:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your helpPilar Botana (talk) 17:34, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Gracehall27 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Final revisions to my article and how to move my sandbox work into live.

--Gracehall27 (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC) Grace Hall
 * I replied to your email. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:56, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Yve1827 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I wanted to make sure my information was acceptable and cited properly. Yve1827 (talk) 04:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

--Yve1827 (talk) 04:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:03, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Contents Box and References
Hi Ian,

Could you help me with the following?

1) I would like to know how I can move my contents box 2) When Putting in references, using same source for more than one citation, how do you enter Ibid and different page numbers or do you then always use manual mode?

Many thanks, RobertRfgovaerts (talk) 08:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , what do you mean with content box? Could you provide a link to the page?  Asartea  Talk    Contributions  16:50, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , do you mean the table of contents? That will be generated automatically based on the section headers. You don't need to do anything about that. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Ian it was just that I would have liked to see the table of contents displayed below the summary section like I see on most active pages but if you say it puts it automatically where it belongs, then so be it.

Here is the link to my sandbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfgovaerts/First_All-Russian_Women's_Congress

Kind regards, Robert Rfgovaerts (talk) 19:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , easy fix - per the Wikipedia style guide, there shouldn't be a "title" section at the top. I'll remove it for you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:01, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful, many thanks Ian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfgovaerts (talk • contribs) 20:27, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ian,

Sorry to bother you again but for some strange reason I can not get rid of the bold sections as they appear in the content box which you so nicely moved to the right place.

Thanks a million again, Robert Rfgovaerts (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , That's because the titles themselves were bolded. It's a pretty common problem, and it's almost impossible to see because the titles display as bold anyway. I fixed them. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:34, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

You are too good !

Many thanks again, Robert Rfgovaerts (talk) 20:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

A group of students...
Ian, could you please advise the group of students editing this article about what our editorial standards are? In particular, marketing articles are already subject to lots of nonsense and spam, we really shouldn't have a class adding more...Praxidicae (talk) 13:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the ping. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Natreyes29 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I am editing the Marketing Plan Wikipedia page as a part of a group class assignment and can no longer see an edit option to insert a diagram and it only says edit sources.

--Natreyes29 (talk) 13:21, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , this training slide explains how to switch between the two editing modes. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Nhannguyen2002 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

--Nhannguyen2002 (talk) 02:39, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , what can I help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 05:08, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

User:M12345678999/Ione Taylor
This was moved into main space and then into user space as a non-existent user, a couple notes, however, the article is partly copied from everybody wiki (which was the article deleted from the AfD), the article looks like a CV, and it was previously deleted via a deletion discussion. So I think it would be best if this article were kept out of main space. Dylsss(talk contribs) 03:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've removed the article - Ian, you'll need to file a ticket since there was some copyvio. I've removed it and warned the student accordingly, as well as left them some notes. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Hln24 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I can't seem to find the article i moved out of the sandbox. I tried to publish it and instead it redirected it to a page i'd accidentally created about a month ago. We still need to publish it so it's a proper page, and the article is supposed to be Mae Timbimboo Parry.

Thank you!

--Hln24 (talk) 06:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's located at User:Hln24/Mae Timbimboo Parry. It needs a little cleaning for flow and style, as some of it feels a little too casual. For example, some aspects feel a little too glow-y towards Parry. While saying that she was amazing would be an understatement, we need to be careful to make sure that the article reads neutrally. It isn't bad, so it's mostly just making sure that any claims are backed up with a source and if needed, attribution. You also want to make sure that you reduce redundancy - I edited the lead to be more succinct, as some claims were more or less repeated multiple times. A good option would be to look at articles like Marjory Stoneman Douglas, Mary Greyeyes, or Mary Two-Axe Earley to see how they're styled. I think you could probably move this live and work on it there, however. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Cafe.doppio (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello.

I need help with...

It can be found at: Janine Caira or [|Janine Caira]

Thanks, Gary M Cafe.doppio (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Ian, this is apparently about the Bio draft at user subpage User:Cafe.doppio/janine caira. Mathglot (talk) 11:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Huntersudberry (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

--Huntersudberry (talk) 21:22, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , can you reply below, and ask your question again?
 * To reply, click the little [edit] symbol above, to the right of the section header, or the pencil if you're on mobile. Please see WP:THREAD for details on how to reply on Talk pages. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 11:15, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Samanthakellar (talk)
Hello.

I am trying to move this page, however I think because I created it in my user sandbox page it not moving properly. Could you please help me?

Thank you

--Samanthakellar (talk) 02:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Samantha, I responded at your Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 11:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from LM14840 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with the message that shows at the bottom of the wiki page I moved to the wiki main space. It reads "This template should only be used in the user namespace. This template should only be used in the user namespace." Not sure that I've successfully moved the page as an article instead of a user sandbox.

Would appreciate any help you can offer with this. Thank you so much!

--LM14840 (talk) 20:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Looks like someone removed it for you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Message
Ruby Sky Stiler was born in 1979 in Portland, Maine. She lives and works in New York City. Her monochromatic sculptures and reliefs draw upon a wide range of cultural references. Ruby Sky Stiler art mostly focus on The works had the appearance of stone, marble, and ceramic, magnified by their iconography, which borrowed from ancient Egyptian, Greek, and Roman art and architecture, as well as indigenous New Mexico pottery traditions, yet up close, revealed a hand-built technique. Ruby Sky Stiler had solo exhibitions at The Aldrich Contemporary Art Museum, Ridgefield, CT, and Locust Projects, Miami, FL. There are not many articles about Ruby Sky Stiler; however, articles about her artwork. In that article, she talks about her earlier. Her experiment with art. the article does a good job showcasing her art purpose and further interest in art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nusratjoyee12 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, is there something I can help you with here? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Recent Contributor 4ever (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I am trying to publish my "Social Listening" page to Wikipedia from the Sandbox as directed by the training module, but I'm unable to do so. I am requesting information or help to make the move official. Thank you!

--Recent Contributor 4ever (talk) 18:01, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:41, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Mswnku (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

--Mswnku (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Is there something specific I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from 2601:940:8101:C36E:B1AE:5962:81A7:9BD2 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... help me make a page to let everyone share their personal experience's with certain topics

--2601:940:8101:C36E:B1AE:5962:81A7:9BD2 (talk) 00:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC) -ALex
 * Hi! By this, do you mean a group page where you can collaborate on an entry for class or more like a blog? If it's a blog, then keep in mind that this should be done off-Wikipedia as the site should be kept more for Wikipedia specific work like compiling sources and assessing, creating or adding to articles. Also, make sure that you're logged into your account so Dashboard can keep track of the edits you make, as it can't track ones made while you're logged out - including any modules you complete. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Organizing a wikipedia edit-a-thon
Hi Ian! I'm a new wikipedia editor myself but managed to successfully create my first few pages in the last few weeks. I am drumming up enthusiasm in my academic field for people to join and edit the wikipedia together. My personal mission is to expand women representation and work against erasure. Others might want to better improve coverage of our field. I was wondering how I can go about organizing such an event? Any suggestions on who I can approach as a coach or guide? Many thanks! FlybellFly (talk) 23:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi FlybellFly, I recently supported the organisers of two online edit-a-thons (both one week long). One was on SDGs, the other one on climate change. Here is the link to the climate change one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Online_edit-a-thon_on_climate_change_-_November_2020 . How can I help you? I have to say though that in both cases there were organisations behind it who could put some resources behind the organisation of the event, i.e. not just volunteers. So if you are connected to suitable organisations to run this (e.g. the advertising takes quite a bit of time), then it's easy... Any takers from the university environment? EMsmile (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, User:EMsmile! I am very impressed by what you've done and look forward to making a proposal to the many organizations I'm in touch with. I think to make a convincing case, I'd need to write up a proposal and analyze the costs for them (time, prize money, commitment, etc). Alternatively, I was wondering if you know of any outreach grants that have funded editathons? Perhaps I could apply for one with some colleagues. FlybellFly (talk) 10:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, . You may find these links helpful: grants for individuals and for organisations; a guide on how to run an edit-a-thon; and training modules. Happy editing! BlackcurrantTea (talk) 14:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . I think you've found better help than I could have given you here already! Thanks so much and ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't have experience with applying for WMF grants. I think the best path would be to find an organization (your employer? Someone you collaborate with?) who gets excited about the idea and is willing to spend a bit of staff time on it. It really doesn't cost all that much. There are costs for people's time to advertise the event, carry out the communciations with volunteers, moderate the event (that was my role for two edit-a-thons recently), provide tutoring, guidance and mop up some of the work that the volunteers do if they make mistakes. The money for prizes is optional but I think it's a good tool. If you can, I would offer Eur 100 as prize money for up to ten people, and stipulate that half of them will be women. If you want more details feel free to reach out to me (my talk page or message through the Wikimedia message system). Good luck! EMsmile (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Persuading students to work on start class articles
Hello Ian,

It is great to see so many students coming on to Wikipedia. I have been working on climate change articles for a while now and it is really good to have new people. But you have probably noticed that for some time I have been trying to switch the attention of a few students away from working on good and featured articles. I see you are now writing in course descriptions "Students will be trained to enhance stubs and start articles related to a topic that interests them." which makes sense.

But students are still selecting articles like Sustainable energy, which although not yet rated good is pretty much there. As so many students are from the USA I have been trying to persuade those interested in the environment to switch to improving Greenhouse gas emissions by the United States, but without any success so far. Partly this is for my benefit, because I am working on Greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey and would like a good article about another country to contrast it with. I assume most of the students are American so I don't know why they seem reluctant to work on the article. They would not be slagging off their own country but in a way promoting it, as the article ought to include all the great decarbonization actions which are already being done in the USA and those planned for the next few years.

I know the students have the right to decide for themselves what they work on, but could you possibly big up (or ask instructors to big up) start class articles such as that before future students make their choices?

Keep up the good work.

Regards Chidgk1 (talk) 06:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! (Former Wiki Ed employee here!) Wiki Ed heavily encourages instructors to steer students towards stub and start class articles rather than GA or FA, particularly as improvements or other additions to those articles are often the focus of lengthy discussion on the talk page. Some students will still sometimes choose these articles and when WE receives notice of this, they reach out to the instructor and recommend that they choose another article. Avoiding GA and FA is also part of the training module on finding articles for instructors, along with avoiding very controversial topic areas. There are still some cases that pop up, however, particularly if the student doesn't assign the article to themselves on the class dashboard.
 * Definitely let WE know if any students pick up GA or FA, or articles that are very controversial! I'm no longer with the organization, but also feel free to reach out to me if you need any help from another fellow editor. :) ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * - while we do strongly encourage students to work on stub or start class, you're right, they often pick articles that are too well-developed. And sometimes it's a failure of vision - people don't realise how many articles Wikipedia has on sub-topics. It's a bit late to do anything about this term, but it might be worth sending out an email at the start of the term asking instructors to remind their students to work on these kinds of articles. I will talk to my colleagues about that, and see what they think about how best to nudge students some more in the right direction. And thanks as always for jumping in, . Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Absolutely right - "people don't realise how many articles Wikipedia has on sub-topics". One idea might be for the instructor to show the students how to list all the start and stub class articles related to their course before they choose. For example if the course was specifically about climate change the students could go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Climate_change/Popular_articles, sort by "assessment" (in descending alphabetical order) and there are hundreds of articles to choose from. I guess a fair number of courses might line up with one or more Wikipedia projects reasonably well. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Biologymajor4541 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... further edits on my article. I am having trouble finding information.

--Biologymajor4541 (talk) 14:58, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . I can't help you much with that - I think the best thing to do is to talk to your instructor about finding sources. In my experience, he's really helpful. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi . I responded to you at your Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help with my article
Hello.

I was wondering if you would be able to help me review my article and publish it?

Best, Zainub Balla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymouse3042 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I took a look and other than a couple of tweaks, this looks really good! I couldn't resist reviewing and moving it after I saw that it dealt with a female abolitionist! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

License problems with a course's work
A page created as part of popped up on my watchlist. I spot-checked a few others, and there seem to be widespread problems. All files identified as part of the course that were uploaded to commons failed license-check. Several articles seem to have content license problems as well, such as close-paraphrase. And Isabel Clarisa Milan Garcia is heavily based on citations to wikipedia. I did not do an exhaustive check of all the articles, but surely the profs would want to know what sorts of work their students are doing, and wiki-ed liaisons would want to know as well. Let me know if you'd like more help with this. DMacks (talk) 04:39, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up . I will definitely let the instructor know about the issues with uploads, and I'll take a look at the students' issues with sourcing and close paraphrasing. As far as the images issue goes, it looks like their first class, last Spring, didn't upload any images, so the problem might stem from them being new to this and not knowing what to warn students about. While it looks like this term is done, this will be important information for them if they choose to try this assignment again. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Title change help?
Hi Ian!

I'm working on an article (Inertia (anxiety)) that I think could really use a change to a different title. I've already posted my reasoning for this change on the talk page. Can you help me out with this process? Thanks! --McHusky (talk) 07:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , have you read WP:RM?  Merry Christmas! Asartea   Talk   Contribs!  08:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I hadn't taken as close of a look as I guess I should have. I decided to be bold and move the page, since I think it's pretty uncontroversial anyway. Cleaned up a double redirect, too. Thanks, ! McHusky (talk) 19:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, it just got reverted. I guess it wasn't so uncontroversial. Oops! I'll go through WP:RM, then. McHusky (talk) 19:21, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Publishing an Article
Hello Ian,

I am reaching out because I have completed my sandbox draft of my article on Elizabeth "Libby" Beaman (I have already moved it to this page name) and am not sure what the next steps are to publish it?

I hope I have done everything to Wikipedia standards.

Your assistance is much appreciated,

Kaitlin Baehr — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.l.baehr (talk • contribs) 22:32, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , your work is "live" in mainspace now. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:58, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Alinde123 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with my Reference section on my personal sandbox. I created the citations in my article first and then dragged them to my cited materials when I needed them. My issue is that the Reference list which I made from a template is in a bulleted list rather than a numbered list. Is there any easy way to fix that?

EDIT: Never mind, I figured out. Don't worry!

--Alinde123 (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Reviewing Edits on United States Securities Regulation
Hi Ian, I have finished adding my edits to the live page for United States Securities Regulation. I wanted to see if you could take a quick look to be sure my work is good and I added my work from my sandbox correctly.

Thanks, Dbouwers (talk) 17:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link: United States Securities Regulation  Merry Christmas! Asartea   Talk   Contribs!  17:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I just took a very cursory look through the edits and at a glance they seem ✅ Fine  Merry Christmas! Asartea   Talk   Contribs!  17:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks . And I agree,, they look fine apart from a few little formatting issues. Section headers are supposed to use sentence capitalization - only the first word and any proper nouns are supposed to be capitalized. And it looks like you added a reference to a section header. Those should be in the text, not the header. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Michelle MR (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...I have added all of my information to my sandbox and I am ready to upload it to my user page, how do I do that?

--Michelle MR (talk) 05:28, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Michelle MR (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...Please check my page

--Michelle MR (talk) 05:39, 10 December 2020 (UTC)MichelleMR
 * Hi! I left a note on your page! ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much ! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

UCLA Psych class
Concerned that it appears these students, as new Wikipedia editors, were instructed to create drafts, and then convert those drafts to main space, bypassing AfC. Outside my area of expertise, so cannot comment on quality. David notMD (talk) 13:15, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Yourimp (talk)
Hello.

I need help with moving my source into the mainspace. Thank you.

--Yourimp (talk) 07:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

How to submit for review (to get graded from wikipedia)
Hi Ian!

I worked on my page a lot more after getting the start class grade two weeks ago, and I'm wondering if there's a way to submit my article again for review. Is this a possibility, or would the grade change automatically sometime later as my article gets more developed? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alicejly (talk • contribs) 16:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

--Alicejly (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Alicejly
 * Hi, as your article develops, people may change the rating. There's no formal submission for that. Grading, on the other hand, is something that your instructor handles, so if you have questions about that you should get in touch with Dr Karney. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Hello Ian. My content got taken out because passages were copied verbatim from my source (Ayutla Mixe Article), but I cited those passages. Is it ok to use the same examples as the author and just paraphrase whatever is not the examples? Emavila123 (talk) 05:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC) Example (talk)09:35, 14 December 2020
 * Hi! I wanted to give a bit of explanation:
 * Content should be re-written in your own words whenever possible. Avoid closely paraphrasing, as this can be seen as a copyright/plagiarism issue. If you do use something verbatim, it's very important to attribute it clearly and mark it as a quote. So for example, if we quote the statement "The rain in Spain is mainly in the plain" we need to attribute it ala 'According to Henry Higgins, "The rain in Spain...".'
 * Now since you're trying to use examples, this will need to be attributed a little differently - you can do this by making a statement before the examples along the lines of:
 * In his book Title John Smith listed the following as examples:
 * You can do this with each example by stating something like
 * Smith listed the following as examples of (different type of grammar)
 * It does have to be attributed and source, however keep in mind that if we list something without attribution and clarification that it's a quote (so to speak) then it's a copyright violation even if we included the source. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Initial DYK roundup
Ian (and User:Helaine (Wiki Ed), who is also listed for at least one of these courses), there are a great many DYK nominations from fall courses that end this week or have already ended. The ones I am listing here are DYK nominations that were never completed: step 3, the transclusion step (adding the nomination to WP:DYKN) was never done, so the nominations were never seen by most reviewers. In some cases, Mandarax spotted them and had pointed out problems; occasionally, I spotted them.

What I am doing here is formally informing you of these, and of what the issues are. Any that remain incomplete seven days from now will be marked for closure or, if already "failed" (X icon), closed immediately. If you yourselves do the transclusions, the expectation on the DYK end is that you will be standing in for the nominators if any issues arise, if you are unable to get commitments from the nominators themselves to continue work when the reviews commence. Note that sometimes work has been done in a sandbox though the article hasn't been created/expanded with such material.

These first two nominations are from classes that ended in November, but they at least meet the newness and size criteria:
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Quantum Artificial Life – class ended 11/27; moved to mainspace 11/20 and is eligible for DYK
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Quantum complexity theory – class ended 11/23, the day of nomination; while the expansion is sufficient, there are other issues

These others are from classes that end on Friday (12/18):
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Sexualities and Genders in Zapotec Oaxaca – despite many pings on this one over the past weeks, nothing has been done to transclude it or fix the tagged lead section; it will be closed December 19 absent immediate action
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Kap-Kig-Iwan Provincial Park – currently 606 prose characters and would need to be expanded to 3030 ✅
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Portrayal of mental illness in popular culture – no such article in mainspace ✅
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Beatrice Wiafe Addai – no such article in mainspace✅
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Decoding Communication – currently 836 prose characters and would need to be expanded to 4180 (not 3570 as the review states) ✅
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Communication noise – currently 2098 prose characters and would need to be expanded to 10490 ✅

This one is from a class that ends on next Tuesday (12/22):
 * Template:Did you know nominations/African-American socialism – was 11419 prose characters and is currently 18649; would need to be expanded to 57095 characters, pretty-much impossible ✅

These may not be Wiki Edu courses, but the students are at the University of Sydney and there's an educational template in use:
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Mercery – neither editor nor nominator (presumably from the same class) have edited since November 17, and the hook isn't usable, but the nomination was on time and the expansion is at least fivefold; tutor is Blythekombucha
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Apple Arcade – nomination was 13 days after expansion began (and on the last day nominator edited Wikipedia, November 19), which might be finessed, but GA review, which failed, raised issues that could also figure in a DYK review; tutor is R stasey

That's everything I know about these nominations. If you wish any of them to be saved, please take action no later than December 23, or let me know sooner of the ones you don't plan to pursue. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll procedural close some of these. In my past experience working at WE, most of the time the students misinterpreted the DYK criteria (the instructions are clear, but for whatever reason - likely enthusiasm - some students don't read them closely enough) and won't return to fix any of the most major issues. The smaller issues (hook, etc) they or the instructor are more likely to do so, but in the case of the article not being expanded enough or not existing, the odds are small enough that closing is generally fine to do. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've put tick marks next to the ones I've closed. Looking at that one class, it looks like the mainspace editing ended back in November. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * On a side note,, feel free to reach out to me if you see any DYKs for stuff like the article not being expanded enough or not existing. I can review it and if needed, do a procedural close. I would do this regularly enough back when I was with Wiki Ed. I'd close it and explain the reasons why to the student, as well as give notes on what they'd need to do to improve the page if they did want to continue working on it and resubmit it. In most cases when they did resubmit the article, enough time had passed to where the original nomination date wasn't really applicable and re-opening or re-submitting it was typically the best option. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:14, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Should I do anything about this?
Hi Ian! I'm not sure if you're the person I should be talking to about this or not. I edited the page I was assigned, Lyndsey Stonebridge. A day or so later, somebody claiming to be the author removed all my edits, saying I misrepresented her views, which is unfortunate, because I really respected her work. Anyway, I know that this isn't how Wikipedia works (I mean, it can't be that everything I wrote is misrepresentation), and I was going to revert and start a discussion on the Talk page, but somebody beat me to reverting. I made some slight fixes in response to her criticism. I'd like to ask how/if you think I should proceed further? Zqib (talk) 08:09, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's a difficult situation, and I think your instincts here were correct. Someone already left a note on the talk page, so I think that's good enough.
 * Do your best to represent your sources fairly. That's all you can really do. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weighting in here: Zqib you might want to point the IP to the WP:COI policy (in a nutshell: you are discouraged from editing articles you are involved in and you need to declare the involvement) and WP:AUTOPROB which gives some more advice on it.  Merry Christmas! Asartea   Talk   Contribs!  15:24, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Both the IPs used now have notices about the COI guideline, and the page has been semi-protected until 19:09, 20 December, so that IPs and brand-new users can't edit it. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 17:28, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Both the IPs used now have notices about the COI guideline, and the page has been semi-protected until 19:09, 20 December, so that IPs and brand-new users can't edit it. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 17:28, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

How to report potential vandalism?
Hello! While I am done with my class, ive continued working on various articles, and noticed one particular article that has had correct and appropriate info reguarly removed (likely due to a fanwar going on on twitter) and while I continue to fix the edits that remove factual info, is there anything I can do besides monitor the page closely? Jayb.rd98 (talk) 07:27, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Well first off you can help! Everybody can revert vandalism and report vandals. If you give me a link to the page I can also check and revert it. Account which continuously vandalize can be reported to WP:AIV and if an page is constantly vandalized you can request it be protected. A few policies related to this: WP:VANDAL (what constitues vandalism), WP:REVERT (about reverting), WP:3RR (don't revert more than three times a day on an single article unless vandalism is indisputable), WP:WARN (how to warn vandals) and WP:GAIV (how to report vandals). Hope this helps you!  Merry Christmas!  Asartea   Talk   Contribs!  08:25, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

The page is Han-bin and the edits are due to a fanwar occurring on twitter where a fandom of artist Kim Hanbin are mad that a new artist is using the name. I have checked other Wikipedia pages and seen that among other pages of names, pseudonyms are often included, as it is still a usage of the name. I referred the editors to an example of this, and began a discussion on the Talk page, which went ignored. I was looking into applying for page protection for the page, as it seems to be a consistent issue. Jayb.rd98 (talk) 08:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help making a new sandbox
Hi Ian - just wanted to leave a message as I am just starting a new draft for my article that I'm editing for my WikiEdu course - however when I clicked the sandbox link to start my draft - it was giving me an error message that there was no user page associated with the new subpage and/or sandbox. Even when I followed the instructions to create a new sandbox entirely, I was given the same error message and couldn't save my sandbox draft properly. Please let me know if you can help, thanks! Czarinaariza (talk) 03:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! What sandbox are you trying to create? I can try putting something in the sandbox and see if that helps any. I also see that User:Czarinaariza/sandbox has something in it already, if you want to use that as a place to draft your work. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Need help request from Jullanar.mar (talk)
Hello.

I need help with the alignment of the text. I was asked in the class to do an Arabic assignment about Seteney Shami. I tried to chose "Align right" but it didn't work. Can you please help me? Thank you.

--Jullanar.mar (talk) 22:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)