User talk:Ian McGrady

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Thank you.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC) www.zetavang.com (talk) 14:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Heavy edit
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Edits as an IP
Ian,

It is fairly clear you're also editing the article In Masks Outrageous and Austere (as well as the article John Uecker) without logging in. One of the IP's you used has just been blocked for 12 hours for page blanking. In particular, I'm puzzled by the page blanking with an edit summary "deletes article", which implies you knew what you were doing. Could you please (a) remember to log in, and (b) be more careful about blanking pages? Thank you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Evidence also causes me to believe that other IPs, including and, have also been used to edit. —DoRD (talk) 18:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, there seem to be a few. Doesn't look like they're being used maliciously; no edit warring with multiple IPs or multiple participation in talk page discussions; I think it might just be not bothering to log in.  I've asked him to log in from now on, and he's explained the page blanking on my talk page, so I think all is OK for now. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

www.zetavang.com (talk) 14:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC) thank you

hello 00:40, 10 May 2014 (UTC) Hi I suggest deleting this page as the issue is obviously over

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July 2013
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use disruptive, inappropriate or hard-to-read formatting, you may be blocked from editing. There is a Wikipedia Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. JustBerry (talk) 03:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I am writing in the sense of building an article. It takes time to even see what I've written clearly. I don't know how anyone could possibly write one of these deeply intricate documents without many visits back to the article to improve it.www.zetavang.com (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)www.zetavang.com (talk) 14:48, 18 March 2014 (UTC)hello 00:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Larry Dvoskin


The article Larry Dvoskin has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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I've added many citations including an online newspaper article.www.zetavang.com (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC) I've added more references and citations. www.zetavang.com (talk) 10:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC) I suggest this be deleted at this point because the article has been substantiated hello 00:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

hi - thanks - this is a free image provided me by Mr Dvoskin www.zetavang.com (talk) 14:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 9 May
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hello 00:43, 10 May 2014 (UTC) fixed it thank you

Notice
This is also a warning.

You should also be aware of our rules on conflict of interest. Your name matches the family name of a collaborator of Gary Null, and we know that because you yourself created the article on that person, as indeed you created articles on several other Null collaborators. At this point I think it's fair to say that you should not edit any of these articles directly but should restrict yourself to proposing improvements on the Talk page, This especially applies to the article on Null, where your recent edits are a gross violation of out policy on neutrality.

Please note that continued disruptive editing in this area may lead to your being blocked from editing and/or restricted from editing in this area at all. Guy (Help!) 09:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Guy:

1) I created the article on my father who was a New York Times bestselling author -- 54 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list, and the only 2 brothers to be on the list at the same time. That is culturally and intellectually significant. I don't think I overdid it.

2) What were those several other Null collaborators articles you mention? Please list them. I don't remember.

3) At this point I am unconvinced of your fairness.

4) The Gary Null article stood completely biased for years. Where was Wikipedia's great intellectual force in terms of counter-balancing that article?  I have left all controversies in tact, applying more objective tone where necessary, providing footnotes, deleting inaccessible references.  I will grant that my inclusion of the list of awards was not rooted in footnotes and other information was also unsubstantiated, but generally I think I show that his work appears warrant further development of the article.  I cannot concede that my recent edits are a "gross violation" of NPOV or are "disruptive" except that the prior full wipeout deletion was extremely unfair and blind to otherwise good contributions I made to it.

I understand the nature of the assessment, that my name is the same name and I am related to someone who appeared on his show who died a while ago. I agree that someone in my position may be blinded by biases. I feel my edits have been relatively fair and introduced many of the salient traits that a good WikiPedia article should embody. On the other hand, Wikipeida may find itself in the position of constantly dealing with family/relative/interested parties who may be the initial parties interested in advancing understanding of article subjects.

QUESTION: If there is call for investigation of an article, and there may be apparent bias, how does one call upon other wikipedia editors to review it?

On the other hand, I feel the two editors I have most frequently encountered have swooped down like Valkyries and made many strong accusations without actually having read the contributions or seeing what work has actually been done.

If you feel that I am the person who should *not* be editing the article, then will you? Will you task someone to improve the article? He is genuinely a culturally significant figure, a person of tremendous influence in the health/wellness world, a NYT bestseller, and the founder of an entire niche of online communication.

And moreover, is it that Wikipedia wants completely dispassionate editors who let poorly written and biased articles lie, only to sanction those who are motivated to fix them? I think some deeper thought has to go into your brand of policing. I have read the guidelines, which you thoughtfully provided, and think I'm doing a pretty good job of coloring inside the lines.

hello 16:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The significance or otherwise of the subject makes no difference, according to our rules you may not create or edit articles on your family or close connections. You especially may not edit these articles in a way which promotes them. You are free to point out errors of fact on the talk pages, but this must be kept specific. That is, a quote form the article which is provably incorrect, a proposed correction, and one or more reliable independent sources that verify both the proposed text and its status as a neutral summary of the matter. Bear in mind that we have specific guidelines of the types of sources that are considered reliable for medical subjects; WP:MEDRS. Sources that do not meet this guidance are unlikely to be accepted.
 * There are places where you can ask for help, but the best thing is to make well sourced suggestions on the Talk page.
 * Wikipedia administrators are janitors more than policement. It's not our job to fix badly written content (though we can do so in a personal capacity), it is our job to point out policies and ensure that they are not breached. Guy (Help!) 20:02, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

hello 01:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC) Hi Guy -

Doesn't wikipeida say: Ignore all rules[edit] This one is very simple. If a rule would prevent you from improving, or preventing harm to, the encyclopedia, then ignore it. However, be certain that what you are doing would really improve the encyclopedia and is not just something that you want to do. Be prepared to justify your actions to anybody with a reasonable objection.

And I've read the rules which you thoughtfully supplied. Thanks for that. But could you kindly quote me where the rules say:

I may not create or edit articles on your family or close connections. You especially may not edit these articles in a way which promotes them.

I don't think I'm promoting Mr. Null. I don't think I see where Wikipedia says a person who has prior contact with someone can't edit an article. It would be like saying anyone whose grandpa owned a Ferarri can't edit an article about one.

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 17:54, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

hello 17:59, 10 May 2014 (UTC) thanks robot

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Nomination of Larry Dvoskin for deletion
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