User talk:Ianmacm/Archive 13

WP:DENY
The lettuce is using the "motivation" discussion as a smoke screen to promote conspiracy theories, plain and simple. Replying validates them and as you noted there is not adequate information available to write about the motivation, anyways. VQuakr (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm aware that some of the edits by various editors at Talk:2012 Aurora shooting have not been entirely constructive, but wasn't entirely happy either about the use of Twinkle in one of the threads. The article could do with some more explanation of the notebook that Holmes kept, although I'm not in favour of mentioning any of the drugs, prescription or otherwise, since the trial did not find that anything that Holmes had taken affected what he did. This has been one of the themes in the usual fringe sources, eg www.naturalnews.com/038629_James_Holmes_prescription_meds_vaccines.html here] and [ http://www.infowars.com/as-predicted-james-holmes-was-taking-violence-linked-antidepressant-drugs/ here]. Holmes did not take the stand at his trial  which the article should also mention, although recordings of interviews with a psychiatrist were played in court. I'm just as keen as you not to introduce WP:FRINGE material into the article, but I have tried not to close down debate.-- ♦Ian Ma c  M♦  (talk to me) 17:57, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * This is not about closing down debate, it is about denying recognition to an editor when they attempt to disrupt the normal discussion process using multiple accounts. The issue that triggers WP:DENY is the behavior, not the content. VQuakr (talk) 21:48, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Recently I have thought that Ferociouslettuce is reaching the WP:STICK stage with some of the contributions. It has been pointed out numerous times that WP:WEIGHT and WP:REDFLAG apply in these situations. Holmes has been convicted by a jury which found that he was the sole gunman and that he was sane enough to understand his actions. The article should not cherry pick three-year old sources in a way which tries to cast doubt on this. I have also suspected that WP:SOCK or logged out editing has occurred, which is never a good sign.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 05:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Claims4falsewidowspiders
Have you been blamed for biting a human and it wasn't your fault? Call Claims4falsewidowspiders today.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:39, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "Taken out a loan in the past ten years? Think you may have been mis-sold Payment Protection Insurance? Contact our friendly and professional team of advisors today!!"" Martinevans123 (talk) 16:40, 13 August 2015 (UTC)  Note: * proof of non-Caucasian ethnicity may be required. 
 * Steatoda nobilis gets the blame every time this happens. It makes a great story to show the lurid photos, but the text of the news article does not confirm that a Steatoda nobilis bite was the cause; other things could have caused it, as experts would point out.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:47, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "Spider pig, spider pig, does everything a Steatoda nobilis can..." DuffBeer123 (talk) 16:40, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And this in today's news is just plain bizarre: "'Spider, spider eyes so bright, in the bedroom, late at night. On the pillow, on the bed, in your hair and on your head. Creeping and crawling all around. These little creatures make no sound.'"William Blake of "The Tyger" fame may have spotted a similarity in the poem.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:46, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "The Spider sits in his laboured Web, eager watching for the Fly
 * Presently comes a famished Bird & takes away the Spider
 * His Web is left all desolate, that his little anxious heart
 * So careful wove; & spread it out with sighs and weariness."
 * - Old Inspector Blakey, “Enion’s Lament.” "... 'ere I 'ate you Butler" Martinevans123 (talk) 08:36, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I feel so left out at not being bitten by a Steatoda nobilis. Despite seeing them many times, it is hard to get near one as they run like greased lightning when they see a human. During the day, they spend most of the time holed up in a crevice, and come out at night to sit upside down on their hammock webs. To take the photo shown, I had to stand stock still for several minutes so that it thought that I had gone away. I wanted to take a photo showing the skull markings. The dots on the web are the spider's droppings. For little creatures, they can be surprisingly messy.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:52, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "In Iran everyone’s scared of spiders, but in Iraq no phobia" - Leo Kearse, 38. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:03, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If spiders could edit Wikipedia articles, one of the first things that they would say is that a lot of the things that humans write about them are rubbish. The poem court case in Birmingham is an example of how the idea of flesh eating spiders has taken hold in Britain. The reality is that spiders hate meeting humans and will go to great lengths to avoid it. YouTube is full of videos of humans being dicks with tropical spiders and trying to provoke them so that they can be portrayed as aggressive, but the spider is terrified and wants to run away.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think getting spiders to edit Wikipedia is a very good idea. They could even be admins. They'd be good hunting trolls. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

John Gosling (The Kinks musician)
I'm not sure why a member of the Kinks having Paignton as his birthplace is not considered to be significant for the community. The Kinks are known and acclaimed around the world, as members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the USA and the UK; with its lead songwriter Ray Davies, CBE in the Songwriters Hall Of Fame; Olivier-award winning "Sunny Afternoon" is currently selling out in the West End etc. etc.; is it possible that you have somehow not heard of them?

Devon plays an important part of the legacy of the Kinks. Founder Dave Davies lived there for a number of years. His brother Ray Davies was inspired to write "A well Respected Man" (featured in the Academy Award winning film "Juno") after an extended stay in Torbay. Bassist Pete Quaife was born in Tavistock--as is mentioned on their Wiki page. So why not long-serving keyboard player John Gosling?

I live halfway around the world in Victoria, BC. As it happens, while Torquay was vaguely familiar, I had never heard of the little town of Paignton until friends moved there recently. Why it would not wish to promote itself --as does Muswell Hill, for example, with its Kinks museum in the Clissold arms--is a mystery.

I await your reasoned response!

Duncan Smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalexwats (talk • contribs) 06:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied at User talk:Dalexwats.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

The Beatles and Liverpool is a faulty comparison. If we're talking about less well-known affiliates of more famous organisations, then Klaus Voorman/ Berlin (Beatles) or Chris Stamp/ London (Who) might be better ones. Except that London and Berlin are better known than charming little Paignton. As are, for that matter, the Kinks. "Only connect", wrote E.M. Forster. That's what I expect of Wikipedia--the ability to discover the connections between seemingly disparate things. Thanks to wiki, I now know that the famous English pirate Francis Drake spent time in your lovely community. Correction: that would be Tavistock, Devon--birthplace of Pete Quaife of the Kinks--as noted in Wikipedia.

Dear gatekeeper: you have the power to reverse your decision. Kindly reconsider.

All the best,Duncan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.50.94.100 (talk) 16:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * After this was mentioned, I did a Google search. It seems that he was born in Paignton on 6 February 1948 but that is about it as far as the sourcing goes. There is no evidence that he ever did anything notable while living in Paignton, or picked up significant media coverage related to the town. Devon is a large county and we don't even know how long Gosling lived in Paignton. This is pretty much WP:POPCULTURE trivia in its current form, as there is no context or further detail being given.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 17:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom
Not sure if that article is on your watchlist - I am having a persistent problem there, which you may like to be aware of. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll keep an eye on this. Not sure why this is considered notable enough for a mention; it received limited news coverage and occurred back in 2008. There must be many similar incidents, so there is a need to give due weight and not make this incident look more notable than the others.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 13:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure... someone with an agenda I think. They seem to be working on a bigger article in a sandbox.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

jihadi john
I am nor a big contributor herem but I would have thought that the initial reports of his death did bare some small relevance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OutOfTurn (talk • contribs) 15:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Regarding this edit: The person referred to in the Guardian article is Junaid Hussain, not Jihadi John/Mohammed Emwazi. This is why I reverted the edit. Junaid Hussain has his own article. It is unclear whether he was killed in an airstrike in August 2015, although media reports are claiming this. The Mirror and Express are British tabloid sources-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:56, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Wisconsin Sikh
Hi,

I see you took out the links to Sikh and Sikhism from the See Also Section. I understand your motivation ("included in the Article"). However, note that the reader may not actually follow the links while reading the article itself. It is therefore good to provide the links in the See Also section, which basically serves as a one-stop location for all related pages. So I believe it is good to have them in there. Let me know if you have any issues. Js82 (talk) 06:24, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See alsos should not include links already given in the article, as they are largely redundant. I left in the other two in this edit as they are substantially different from what is already in the article. WP:SEEALSO is the guideline, and says "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes."-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:38, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

False widows again
And they're back, this time in The Sun. The lead photo is Steatoda bipunctata, not Steatoda nobilis, and is not copyrighted to Athena because it is on Wikimedia Commons. This is far from the first time that this has happened: Star Express Mirror Bristol Post getSurrey.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Spider proof shed
In the news today.. It can be bought here. But does it keep out false widows?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 05:28, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The Hidden Wiki - Dead-End Links
Now, unless, you are a regular visitor to the Deep Web, I specifically Object to the removal of my revision to that article. I am a regular visitor to the Deep Web and have the Tor Bundle installed upon my computer, regularly visiting Onion sites. I visit these sites for articles that are posted on my Blogs and http://www.inbirdyseyes.net. So please cite me the reference by which you have removed my revision to the Article; or, in the alternate, provide me with proof that these links listed therein, are in fact, or do in fact, lead to the desired sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Birdymckee (talk • contribs) 09:01, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This edit is blatant WP:OR. The reliability of .onion sites is poor at the best of times and it is no great surprise when the links do not work. Onion sites are up and down like the proverbial yo-yo and any information given would go out of date very quickly. Please raise this at Talk:The Hidden Wiki as it is article related and a consensus is needed.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 10:00, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Not the proverbial bride's nightie, then? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:38, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Library Freedom Project and the Streisand Effect
I shall keep on adding citations to the Library Freedom Project about their post-Kilton Library expansion. Before the DHS became involved they had a couple of other libraries in the pipeline, but immediately thereafter a dozen or so. The reaction is very real, and the project notable, particularly given the historic role of libraries in civil liberties vis-à-vis state surveillance. kencf0618 (talk) 00:06, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This requires a talk page consensus. There is a problem with people adding examples which are not all that notable simply because they would like to draw attention to them. Sometimes there is a WP:COI involved.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 05:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's notable. No WP:COI involved. kencf0618 (talk) 02:01, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

TPO Investor Relations page
Ian, I'm honestly wondering if you could answer questions about that Investor Relations link on The People's Operator. Here in the United States, every person I've had try it (https://www.thepeoplesoperator.com/InvestorRelations ) says that they get re-directed instantly to store.tpo.com. Do you happen to be using the Internet from the United Kingdom? I'm wondering if TPO only shows the Investor Relations page to residents of the UK, for some reason? - 2601:42:C100:9D83:95EB:91F:6010:83B4 (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the page is different if it is visited from a non-UK IP address. I am in the UK and can see the document centre as it appears in this screenshot. The AIM Admission document has been re-uploaded here. It did occur to me afterwards that this thread might have been started by the person that Jimbo refers to as "Mister 2601". I have got nothing to do with TPO so the details of how the website works are a mystery to me.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Killed himself when?
Actually that BBC article says in the body, "He then killed himself after a gun battle with police officers who arrived at the college.", not as they arrived. ― Mandruss  &#9742;  20:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at this BBC News article, which says "The gunman who killed nine people in a shooting rampage at a college in the US state Oregon then killed himself as police arrived, officials have said". Feel free to edit, but it is important to make clear that he killed himself rather than being shot and killed by police as some early reports suggested.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:21, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Right, you're reading the photo caption, I'm referring to the body text. They are clearly contradictory, but if I had to choose one I'd go with the body. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  20:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * This reminds me of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting. Police initially said that Wade Page was shot by responding officers but then changed their minds and said that he killed himself. I have tried to get this right in line with the sourcing but feel free to change anything that you think is wrong. "The medical examiner has determined the cause of death of the shooter to be suicide," Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin told reporters on Saturday." This seems pretty clear on the issue.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Saari you will die next.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Saari you will die next.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

File:Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer Myspace photo.jpg
Someone else removed the image because of dispute at RFC. I asked that person to revert the removal. However, he turned down my request. Now I turn to you since he told me to have someone else reinsert the image. Another person removed it for different reasons. What about you? --George Ho (talk) 09:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the first someone else, and my reasoning is here. ― Mandruss  &#9742;  09:56, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, I guessed that most of this would happen if someone added an image of Harper-Mercer. Fair use, otherstuffexists etc. Looking at the current state of the talk page discussion, there is no clear consensus either way on having the image in the article. Like Masem and others, I'm not entirely convinced that the image is necessary, but this will set off the inevitable otherstuffexists argument.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 12:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Newspaper front pages censored by the BBC
One of the things that I like about the BBC is that it upholds Reithian values by refusing to show tabloid front pages in its morning review of the newspapers if they are controversial. For example, the front page of today's Sun was missing.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:44, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Reasoning behind edit reversion?
Hey, just wondering what your reasoning was for reverting my edit to Hans Zimmer. I know you cited WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, but I don't really see how that applies - it's not first-hand reporting, after all, and many personal life sections I've seen include mentions of a person's politics. Not necessarily saying I disagree with it, just curious as to the logic behind it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiddenViper13 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I had a look for this in a Google News search, and it did not bring up anything apart from this on breitbart.com, so it hasn't been considered to be very important by the mainstream media. There is also an element of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:10YT, as it is not all that relevant to his lasting source of notability, which is as a film score composer. In September 2008, Hans Zimmer attended a fund raising dinner for Barack Obama - $28,500-per-plate according to this source - and although I saw it in the news at the time, it wasn't added to the article for the same reason.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 05:26, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


 * This is mentioned at Endorsements for the Democratic Party presidential primaries, 2016, and it is probably more on topic there.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Schillings notable partners
Hi Ian, I've noticed you've made some amends to the Schillings page before. I've added some comments on the talk page. Would be most grateful if you could take a look at these? Thanks and best, Sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Billett at Schillings (talk • contribs) 11:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help and advice, Ian. I note your feedback. Much appreciated. Best, Sam 31.221.46.162 (talk) 11:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 64
Central discussion has started; I invite you to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 23:02, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit-warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Schizoaffective disorder. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.You are currently at 4 reverts within the same 24 hour period, it would be advisable to restore your last edit. CFCF  💌 📧 09:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * I'm disappointed at the attempt to override WP:CONSENSUS. Numerous editors have pointed out why the paintings are problematic.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:21, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Rolf Harris
Hi Ian, I think there has been some confusion on the my request for edit on the Rolf Harris page. I received an email asking me if I had a conflict of interest, which I don't. I don't personally know Rolf Harris or any of his Family. However, I do feel the conviction part of the article is biased. The Daily Mail article I presented as a source was written in May 2015 (but some other admin has stated it was May 2014). The Support Rolf Harris, The RolfHarrisisInnocent.com page and the Change.org petition all made international headlines prompting the Mayor of Bassendean to make a public announcement. There are UK and Australian sources which can corroborate this. Here are a number of links

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/rolf-harris-daughter-bindi-nicholls-backs-changeorg-petition-to-prove-his-innocence-he-is-a-sweet-10222227.html

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/rolf-harriss-daughter-bindi-campaigns-to-clear-his-name/story-e6frfmq9-1227333659035

I was wondering if you could review my request again as the conviction and imprisonment section seems biased and makes no mention of these events ever taking place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhyshoffman651 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)


 * My understanding from the news coverage is that Harris has decided not to appeal. This would require significant new evidence to emerge, rather than the belief of various people that the trial was unfair. For what it's worth, I believe that Harris was unwise to plead not guilty to the charges involving Witness C, who was one of his daughter's friends. These were the central allegations at the trial, and the evidence presented on these charges was clear cut and did not look good for Harris. On some of the other charges against Harris that were brought at the trial, the evidence was rather old and thin.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

This is a reaction-time experiment for a university paper.
Congratulations, Ian! Had you considered running for ArbCom this year? Should take only about three minutes.... Martinevans123 (talk) 10:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm a humble editor, yes, it's true, sniff. My time is spent trying to sort out article related issues, not feuds between other editors.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 11:31, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. You'll soon get the hang of it in a jiffy. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

THAT'S IT!
HOW DARE YOU REMOVE MY NEW OLD SPICE SWAGGER BODY WASH PHOTO! THAT'S IT! I WILL BE CONTACTING AN ADMIN! - Rowanlovescars — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rowanlovescars (talk • contribs) 19:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sad, sad, sad. I am tempted to ask how old you are, as I suspect that you are neither old enough nor mature enough to be editing Wikipedia. If you can't be bothered with WP:BRD, stay off Wikipedia until you have learned some manners. Do you really think that I am going to be impressed by your childish attitude?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 04:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Yo
I am very sorry for getting angry at you last week. - Rowanlovescars — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.231.38 (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It should be pointed out that File:RZ Body Wash Swagger.JPG is due for deletion as it is missing copyright information. If it is taken from another website it would fail the non-free content guidelines. There has been a tendency to add too many images to the article Old Spice, and a few well chosen images is better than a range of indiscriminately chosen ones. Manual of Style/Images has more details.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:41, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Files for discussion/2015 November 26
The image of the perpetrator is nominated as FFD. I invite you for commentary. --George Ho (talk) 19:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Talk:Umpqua Community College shooting. Thank you. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 17:54, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I do assume good faith, but not everything needs a request for comment, and this could have been put to rest several days ago with the "both" option.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 17:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The following comment, 'This RfC is little more than a WP:HORSEMEAT debate in an attempt to drum up support for the "mass shooting" option', appears to be entirely bereft of good faith. I considered using the personal attack warning, but because it's a holiday, decided to assume good faith toward you and not see your comments as an intentional personal attack.  Unless, of course, that's what it was actually meant to be.  -- WV ● ✉ ✓  18:04, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Blunt, yes. But a bit of a song and dance? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:24, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It is Thanksgiving weekend in the USA, but the sniping on Wikipedia will continue with business as usual. I've pretty much exhausted what I wanted to say about this.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Twitter
In of Twitter, you inserted
 * /ref> Falsified tweets — including sexually explicit and drug-related messages — were sent from these accounts.

in the middle of a URL. Amazingly, the URL still worked, but the text displayed in the reference was messed up. Also amazingly, nobody fixed it until just now. I had to find the origin of the messed-up URL in order to determine if anything else got messed up at the same time. Fortunately, it was just this insertion. Cheers! —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't remember doing this and it may have been the result of copypasting material from previous edits in the page history. Thanks for pointing this out.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:27, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

TWITTER has HTTP
A small point, but Twitter has http://www.newsweek.com/one-womans-new-tool-stop-gamergate-harassment-twitter-288008 in the references.--DThomsen8 (talk) 17:48, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you explain this a bit further? I'm a bit confused about the reason for mentioning this on my talk page. Thanks.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. You removed from Twitter, and I am commenting that there is a linkrot entry.--DThomsen8 (talk) 20:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Upgraded it to use . Better to fix than to tag. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  21:27, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Why does SB get to shamelessly lie about me?
I'm putting things back on Talk:Riemann hypothesis with a collapse box. Choor monster (talk) 19:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It was all getting out of hand, had problems with WP:CIVIL and had little to do with article improvement. I'm not taking sides here. We've all had our two cents' worth on Dr Opeyemi Enoch's claimed proof of the Riemann Hypothesis by now, and this debate should be allowed to die off naturally without further attempts to revive it.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:12, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * But you are taking sides, although not on purpose. You are leaving in Slawek's ridiculous lies about me, which are point-blank violations of WP:CIVIL.  See WP:IUC, paragraph 2, item d. If you had instead deleted the entire portion I collapsed I would not object.
 * If this seems agreeable to you, please do not do so, however It's now a thread at ANI, and I would want anyone who wants to step in to see what's what. Choor monster (talk) 18:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It isn't a good idea to accuse another Wikipedian of lying, as it will only lead to more drama. This is one of the reasons why I reverted the edit.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You think his lying leads to sweetness and light? As I pointed out, it violates WP:IUC, paragraph 2, item d.  Note that Slawekb has had his ANI thread NAC-ed, he has hatted everything except his blatant lie, complete with a link to a diff that he pretends supports him.  Do you approve of that being on the Talk page? Choor monster (talk) 16:35, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Accusing another person of lying - even if true - invariably generates more heat than light. I'm really not going to take sides here, because the thread had degenerated to the point where no serious article improvement was going to occur.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 17:47, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks !
Not that I think I have made anything wrong, but thanks for yout input at Jimmy's talk-page. It's very difficult to transfer a possible future dialogue regarding [WP:TVINTL] to a better place - while standing accused to be a liar. I didn't quite understood what you ment though, but thats in this case of minor importance. The [WP:TVINTL] section, and the interpretation of it, is actually not my favorite subject, though I have at occations added especially British TV-series to the "Broadcasting lists" (but not even that headline is the same, I've seen "Overseas", "International airing" etc.). However if you are very keen to discuss this topic further, I'm on. Just give me a meassage at my talk-page, if thats the case. But this input is intended as a big thanks only. Cheers! 83.249.187.230 (talk) 11:07, 15 December 2015 (UTC)Ops! Didn't notice that I wasn't logged on. Sorry. Boeing720 (talk) 11:08, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you can go against it. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  11:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not involved in this dispute, but do believe that Wikipedia is not IMDb. If a person wants a great deal of detail about a film or TV show, it is best to look at the IMDb entry rather than the Wikipedia article.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 14:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Alex, I still think our global perspective is more importaint than the current WP:TVINTNL, which only has been used by you. Surely everything can be discussed and Ianmacman may well be correct. But then also broadcasting in other English speaking countries should go, I think. And don't you call me a liar, Alex ! 83.249.165.206 (talk) 22:26, 16 December 2015 (UTC)Sorry, something is wrong with my system. I have to log on every time, the 30 day button doesn't work. Boeing720 (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Millions of editors, and I'm the only one who uses it? This kid's brain must be stuck. Global perspective = doesn't exist. Easy. Sorry about this, Ianmacm, the user in question has taken this pathetic discussion to a half-dozen different talk pages over the past month. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  08:18, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Take down my name from the article on ED or I will come everyday!
TAke it down! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgentT1000 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a threat and I don't respond to threats. Please explain who you are and what the problem is.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

A sociopath is doing a revenge porn on me in your website, Uberto from fb refused to take it down, remove it now you criminals! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgentT1000 (talk • contribs) 08:55, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe this is happening. However, you haven't given specifics. If it involves confidential material on Wikipedia you can contact WP:OVERSIGHT, but Wikipedia is not responsible for the content on ED or other external websites.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 08:58, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Revenge porn? with ED? Surely not. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Encyclopedia Dramatica knows a thing or two about long-running Internet feuds, but AgentT1000 hasn't given any details. If it isn't mentioned in the Wikipedia article with a reliable source, Wikipedia cannot take responsibility for it.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 11:55, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Now I see where I should have really been wasting my time more constructively these past six years .... Martinevans123 (talk) 12:14, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen
 Martinevans123Santas Grotto ... sends you warmest wishes for a: "Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"



May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace! ... And "Mele Kalikimaka" (Hawaiian Merry Christmas)!!
 * Thanks. Christmas greetings returned. I've assumed from this and other things on your talk page that you can speak Welsh.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Dim ond adeg y Nadolig. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:59, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * "Only at Christmas", says Google Translate.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 10:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Aww, shucks. Looks like I've been rumbled. Let's just say, it's marginally better than my Hawaiian. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Fi wedi ateb eich sylwadau drwy e-bost.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, I am impressed! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Impressive, huh? However, if Google Translate had said in Welsh "you repeatedly f*ck your mother" I would have been none the wiser.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:30, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * "Mae fy hofrenfad yn llawn o lysywod." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yr ydych am ddod yn ôl at fy lle ar gyfer bownsio bownsio? By the way, this sketch has its own article.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 20:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, also at it.wiki and es.wiki, but alas not yet at cy.wiki. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, also at it.wiki and es.wiki, but alas not yet at cy.wiki. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Ed "Stewpot" Stewart
Had you read the thread "Make of this what you will" at Talk:Ed Stewart? Puts him in a somewhat different light, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * And he isn't even cold in his grave. Strangely enough, I had been thinking about Ed Stewart recently and wondered if he had ever done anything which might have been of interest to Operation Yewtree. Now that he is dead, the tabloids can say all sorts of things without fear of libel actions.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 22:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That's true. But all that was (apparently) taken from his own 2006 Autobiography and posted at that thread in November 2012. I think that was my first visit to his article. To me he always seemed to be the least creepy of the Radio One DJs of that era. It seems he was infatuated with Chiara Henney and there was no question of any promiscuity. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that any skeletons will fall out of Stewart's closet now that he is dead. Given the zealousness of Yewtree it would probably have happened by now.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 22:34, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * And sure enough, This is in the Daily Mail today. Looks like a run around the clippings library with nothing new.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:22, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Monkey selfie
Hi. I've started a discussion on the article's talk page, so we can talk about the matter. I don't know if you've notice already or not, but either way, can you participate? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:26, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Aylesbury sex gang
There's been some to-ing and fro-ing there (and on my talk page) about an editor adding unexplained tags to the article. If you have a moment, can you take a look and perhaps comment on the talk page? Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Re YouTube
Thanks Ianmacm, I got your message. What part of the talk page do you want me to look at, and why do you consider it more prudent than WP:LEADCITE? --Kiyoshiendo (talk) 06:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also just to clarify, I don't see what's wrong with the content when articles like Google, eHow, and Comcast can discuss controversial content in the lead. Is it the sources? There are sources for the content in the article below. --Kiyoshiendo (talk) 06:58, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * See my comment at Talk:YouTube.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking so much time. I've been on and off in activity, and I feel like I can learn some things from editing Wikipedia now. After all, my life has been a little stale, and I have much I would like to learn. --Kiyoshiendo (talk) 07:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

"Footie star: Killer false widow spider ate my arm"
The front page of today's Daily Star says "'KILLER SPIDER EATS FOOTIE ACE" He plays for Wrexham F.C., but we'll let that one go by. Not for the first time, the UK tabloids have used from Wikimedia Commons to illustrate the article. This isn't even a Steatoda nobilis, which is supposed to have bitten him. Like many incidents of this kind, it is hard to say whether a Steatoda nobilis bite really was the cause. Nor did the spider "eat" the arm, as the large hole is the result of a secondary infection and surgery to remove it (to be fair, the text of the news article does point this out, but the front page headline doesn't). This is par for the course with tabloid stories about spiders.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:02, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution
I've opened a case @ Dispute resolution noticeboard. I've killed two black widows in my backyard in 6 months. Regards Tapered (talk) 09:19, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Black widows are nothing to do with false widows. They are so called because of the resemblance. British tabloid newspapers are pretty much incapable of writing sensibly about false widows, or finding the right pictures of them, as the Daily Star front page shows.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 09:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Scattergun rollback
Hi Ianmacm. I made 5 edits [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kidnapping_of_Jaycee_Lee_Dugard&diff=708210666&oldid=707846262 here] and you rolled them all back. When I undo edits I only undo the ones that need to be undone and leave the rest alone. Cheers! 09:07, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I used the undo feature on one edit today at 08:15 UTC. The main concern was mentioning the book before it has even been published, which was too much like a press release. The best way to add books to an article is in a Further reading section with the WP:ISBN. There are some other parts of the edit that were undone as well, this was unintentional.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:18, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Maniac sembello.jpg
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Bot/Blacklisted Link
Hi there Ianmacm, Thank you for the info on the Bot. I decided to replace the alleged blacklisted link with another reference. It was easier than protesting, however it caused me to do a lot of work on my inline citations which were affected, but now fixed. Now that the link is gone, I removed the offensive tag on the top of the article. Thanks again for responding. The comfort you provided is much appreciated!Magdalamar (talk) 06:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm annoyed over this, as little thought has been put into allowing Cyberbot to go around silting up pages with requests to change archive.is links when it is not a pants wetting emergency to do this. While it would be preferable to use archive.org, many links to archive.is were added in good faith before the controversy over the site occurred in 2014.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:09, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Why not say who I am?
Because of cowards like this. - 2001:558:1400:10:853D:41:6647:D240 (talk) 19:02, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I always let people say what they want as long as it is not against Wikipedia guidelines. It helps to prevent people from yelling "You can't handle the truth!" like Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men. In return for this, I usually expect people to say who they are if it is obvious who they are anyway. While I can't speak for Jimbo, he has made clear in the past that he isn't very interested in replying to questions on his talk page with a "have you stopped beating your wife?" tone.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 19:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Problem with that (maybe) is that then Jimbo is never to be asked about mistakes or missteps that he has made, due to the "beating your wife" rationale. Let me make straight, even I have given him credit -- publicly and privately -- when he does something I strongly agree with.  I don't begrudge him his right to make money for himself and his family in the private sector, either.  But, I do get more than a little peeved when he tries to leverage the Wikipedia brand for personal financial gain, while simultaneously letting reporters blather on about how "altruistic" he was to "give away" Wikipedia to the world as a free gift of knowledge.  So, the obvious impending financial failure of The People's Operator is a little amusing to watch, but even in this case Jimbo still "wins", because he made sure to bilk IPO investors of $400,000 per year for his salary, even though all rational folks knew that TPO was going to bomb out, considering that others had tried this model before and weren't particularly successful, and the executive team of TPO was almost completely void of individuals with any experience whatsoever in the wireless industry.  It's really unsavory how much of a scam artist he is, yet he gets all this undue credit for the success of Wikipedia. It was nice talking (or was this venting?) with you. - 2001:558:1400:10:853D:41:6647:D240 (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like you came out on the losing side. - 2601:42:C104:28F0:D1EE:14E4:FA3C:31BE (talk) 12:07, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * At the time of writing, the canoe image has been removed from Scouts Canada on the English language Wikipedia, but the deletion debate is still running over at Wikimedia Commons. As I said in the deletion debate, it is unlikely that this photograph would have caused a problem without the hoo-ha over Wayne Ray on Wikipediocracy. It is a fairly average photo but Ray was sloppy when attributing public domain licensing to images. BTW, the canoe photo was removed from Scouts Canada in this edit, so I didn't remove it from the article.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 13:04, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

"Editor with child pornography conviction still able to edit on most WMF projects"
 * Also, I don't have any blocking or banning powers, nor do I want any as I am here to write articles. Wayne Ray is now indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia and Commons, but I am not sure about the global situation as it is above my pay grade.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 13:25, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Since someone seems to be simmering with resentment after this edit got removed from Jimbo's talk page, here it is again:

Jimbo, if you haven't yet read this item in the Signpost about an editor convicted of child pornography charges, please do. The Wikipediocracy blog post to which it refers has details of inappropriate communications with other users on Commons. User:Jalexander-WMF, who did not respond to my Signpost comments, told the author of the Signpost piece that "the WMF investigation is still ongoing, and any possible visible actions probably won't occur until later next week". That was fully two weeks ago. The WMF's "Trust and Safety" department has been aware of this particular case since March 21st, yet the editor in question is still completely free to edit on almost all WMF projects. In the meantime, Jalexander has found the time and resources to investigate and globally block an account which, so far as I can tell, is just a run-of-the-mill troll. It would be great if you and the board could find time to discuss whether the Trust and Safety department have sufficient resources and if they are deploying those resources effectively when it comes to protecting children and young adults. Thanks. Limited Resources (talk) 21:41, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I can't comment on WMF matters as I've got nothing to do with them. Wayne Ray is blocked from Wikipedia and Commons which are the two main projects, but there are others.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 13:59, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is the Global account information for WayneRay. TBH, I can't see the foreign language Wikipedias as a huge problem unless he speaks the languages concerned, particularly if he has zero edits on them. He was mostly active on the English language Wikipedia and Commons, from which he is now blocked.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 14:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Kindly want to know reason
Dear sir, I want to ask you about the change you made in Facebook. We all are quite familiar and i even added reference from Wikipedia explaining my reason to add it. But you removed it. Please reply me explainig the reason.

Thank you for time and cooperation Yours sincerely, Ishan Banjara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishanbull (talk • contribs) 11:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied at Talk:Facebook.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 11:28, 13 May 2016 (UTC)