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martinus
Martinus (died c. 641) was caesar of the Byzantine Empire from some point between 638 and 640, to 641. He was the fifth son of Emperor Heraclius and his second wife (and niece) Empress Martina. Heraclius elevated Martinus to caesar, a junior imperial title that placed Martinus on the line of succession. Heraclius died on 11 February 641, leaving the throne jointly to Martinus's half-brother Constantine III and his elder full brother Heraclonas. Constantine III soon died of tuberculosis, though some of his partisans alleged that Martina poisoned him. One such partisan, Valentinus, led troops to Chalcedon, across the Bosporus Strait from the capital, Constantinople, to force Martina to install Constans, Constantine III's son, as co-emperor. Valentinus seized Constantinople, forced Constans II's enthronement in September or October 641, and deposed Martina, Heraclonas, and Martinus. Mutilated and exiled to Rhodes, Martinus died soon after, possibly during or immediately after the surgery.

hello, Iazyges! i had a question regarding this blurb for this article. i believe the tfa coordinators generally prefer to run blurbs with a relevant image if possible, and am assuming that no image has currently been selected for this blurb because the only one that was used in the article when it was promoted to featured status was a map that may not show up well as a thumbnail on the main page. what are your thoughts about using in the blurb the photo of the coin currently included in the article?unfortunately, the coin does not actually depict martinus, but tfa has previously featured an image of something closely related to the subject of an article, even if the blurb would normally call for an image of the subject itself, as seen in this blurb. also, please note that the upper limit for the length of a tfa blurb drops from 1100 characters to 1025 when an image is included. at right is one proposal of how the blurb could be shortened to accomodate the image. dying (talk) 08:29, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks great to me! Thanks! Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  18:16, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * . thanks, Iazyges.on a completely different note, i recently realized that there are two articles for people referred to as "Constans II": one at "Constans II" and one at "Constans II (son of Constantine III)".  this confused me, as both are sons of people that have been referred to as "Constantine III" (though one constantine iii reigned for only a few months, and the article on him uses the title "Heraclius Constantine").  would it be less confusing to use a different parenthetical disambiguator?  for example, i think "Constans II (died 411)" could work, and is neutral regarding his legitimacy, although i am admittedly unsure if there is a standard disambiguation method used for articles on roman emperors.  dying (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The disambiguation method for Roman emperors is, generally, ad hoc and ephemeral. Currently, the article names seem to display the Eastern Constans II as simply Constans II, per COMMONNAME, with the far less notable Western Constans II disambiguated. IMO this works well with Wikipedia policy, and is slightly better than using death dates, but I am not opposed to discussing alternatives. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  22:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * oh, i agree that the article of the less notable constans ii should be the one titled with a disambiguator, and apologize if my comment had suggested otherwise. i had raised the issue largely because i had figured that many main page readers may, like me, click on the link to "Constans" in the blurb and be confused when the hatnote tells them that a constans ii that is the son of constantine iii is discussed in another article, as the blurb had suggested that the constans covered in the linked article is the son of constantine iii.however, i personally have very little experience editing in the topic area, and have no business moving the articles of roman emperors by myself, so will defer to your judgement if you think the current disambiguator is more appropriate.  i am obviously also open to other suggestions, as i have very little experience with choosing what disambiguators to use in article titles; i had suggested using a death date simply because i had thought it was sufficiently neutral.  i actually also believe that using a familial relationship with a ruling emperor for a parenthetical disambiguator is generally more effective than using a death date; i had only suggested using a different disambiguator in this specific case because the disambiguator currently being used is arguably not actually disambiguating.  dying (talk) 06:27, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today for the article, "about a caesar of the Byzantine Empire, a brother of one of my previous FA's, David. Like his brother, he was tied to dynastic intrigue surrounding an incestuous marriage and preferred succession. He never lived to be emperor in his own right, but instead either died in the process of being emasculated or survived to live out the rest of his life in obscurity on Rhodes." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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Tiberius III scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Tiberius III article has been scheduled as today's featured article for July 9, 2023. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page blurb, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/July 9, 2023, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. If you wish to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article, you can do so at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/July 2023.

I suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:59, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for improving articles in June! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Leo II
Hey, Iazyges. I noticed that you are sporadically active on Wikipedia recently, and I hope that all is well in the real world. I am letting you know that I plan on nominating Leo II (emperor) soon in light of the new WikiCup round starting shortly. I will be out of the country for most of July, so my participating in the nomination will be rather slow, so apologies in advance for that. If you feel like nominating the article at this time would not be beneficial, or if you have any other queries, feel free to reach out. Cheers, Unlimitedlead (talk) 23:14, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds great! I'll try and pick up the slack when you're busy. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  00:29, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me. And again, I do apologize for my ill-timed sojourn; I can assure you that I will do my best to help out at the nomination when I have the time. Unlimitedlead (talk) 00:30, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I have nominated the article. If we get some comments over the next few days, I should be able to address them swiftly. Cheers, Unlimitedlead (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

TFA?
Hi Iazyge. If you would still like Marcian to be considered for a TFA in August, then nominations are now open. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)