User talk:Iceager

Is it possible that you could translate the following link for me? Who had written this book? Could the information on this book valid? It seems there are such information spreading among many private blogs, currently in Chinese also.

http://book.naver.com/bookdb/book_detail.php?bid=44533

http://kr.img.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=%EC%A1%B0%EC%84%A0%EC%9D%BC%EB%B3%B4+1993.11.15+15%EB%A9%B4&b=1&oid=1_02bbk247536_0&subtype=com&target=detail&top=frame —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyful12 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Further, it seems that the information on this link is in conflict with what Wikipedia has in its English version on the life of Seongcheol, the Korean Monk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seongcheol#Death

Would it be possible to clarify? Just wonder why is there so much information in English Wikipedia regarding Seongcheol and none in the Korean Wikipedia?

My username is joyful12

Thank you!

Joy Joyful12 (talk) 02:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Uptown (group)


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on your post--Icelandic /g+j/, /k+j/ across morpheme boundaries
Can you perhaps check the situations in which the combinations 'gj' or 'kj' preceds a rounded vowel? In this cases, the underlying actual realization seems possibly a velarized [k(ʰ)] than a voiceless palatal ‘[c(ʰ)]’. And the morpheme boundary (onset) may even not be the determining factor for a such occurrence. But I am not sure on these--I do not know the language; just a guess. Mr.Bitpart (talk) 19:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Translation from English to Korean
Hi there. I like to ask for your support in translation. If you like please have a look at a short article about an international music award which should be available in several important languages like Korean as there already have been Korean participants. It's already published in English, French, and German. You wouldn't have to bother with the tablet and the references as I would prepare both for Korean. Therefore I just need the appropriate Korean terms resp. characters (nationalities etc.). Just let me know. Many thanks in advance. Best regards  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArcCan (talk • contribs) 18:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Alphabet letters
Hello Iceager, sorry to bother you, but I just noteced your recent |edit on Dušan Savić (footballer born 1985) and I need to ask you, is there a way to see when letters that are same in both alphabets are used in a wrong one? Is there a way to see if a latin "a" is included instead of the cyrillic "а"? Best regatds, FkpCascais (talk) 08:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Answered on your talk page. --Iceager (talk) 00:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

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Help with Korean sources
Hello I'm trying to improve the article Eatyourkimchi that is tagged for deletion. But a few of the sources I've found are in Korean which I don't read. I'd really appreciate any help with these 4 sources or with the article.

The four news stories: ,, , Cloveapple (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

eSpeak
Hello,

I think you will probably be interested in eSpeak(website), an open-source speech synthesizer. Its format for phonemic rules is intuitive, (i.e. Hindi) and supports Unicode normalization by default. Among other OSS text-to-speech, eSpeak is the easiest to add a support for a new language, so I'm working on Korean in Github. (Check out the on-the-web demo.)

Cheers,

--Puzzlet Chung (talk) 21:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Translate this
Please translate this Korean article to English. Seongnam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee, Eungki C. (talk • contribs) 11:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

asp. /s/ in Korean?
You mentioned at Talk:Ulsan that Korean /s/ is aspirated. Do you have a source for that? Is that one of the ways people hear the difference?

Since we're on the topic, know anything about Korean denasalization? 'Yes' seems to be becoming s.t. like (but not quite) [de]. — kwami (talk) 02:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Answered on your talk page. — Iceager (talk) 15:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Sikyong
Interesting questions. I think the [b] I put in [lóbsaŋ] is simply a typo, although I actually have no way to be sure, since the development from bzang to [bsaŋ] or [psaŋ] is irregular (albeit a very frequent exception when it occurs word-internally after a vowel).

As far as the phonetics of the sound spelled g, this is actually a bit complicated, and there's probably no small amount of variability between different dialects and perhaps idiosyncratically among different speakers. That said, I like to use Tournadre and Sangda Dorje's Manual of Standard Tibetan as a standard when in doubt. Unfortunately, I don't have that in front of me, but as I recall, all manner of articulations distinctions for stops and affricates are neutralized if they are not word-initial, so there's no difference between /g/ or /k/ or /kʰ/. My impression is that there could still be differences in articulation that speakers do not regard as phonemic (on a slightly different topic, Tournadre and Sangda Dorje note that initial unaspirated low-tone [k] (which would originally have been [g]) is sometimes lightly voiced). As you say, the presence of the [ŋ] immediately preceding the g might affect the way the latter is realized, but I've never heard anything specific about that. So, I'm really not sure whether [séŋɡe] or [séŋke] would be a more acoustically precise account of the way the word is pronounced, but, that being the case, I think it's more conservative to use [g] because it stays closer to the orthography. In any event, I think it's best to treat the distinctive shift from [g]->[kʰ] as something that only happens word-initially (although you'll sometimes see Chinese ZWPY transcriptions that imply otherwise).

Basically all of the above applies mutatis mutandem to "Norbu".

There are actually a number of phonemic issues with Tibetan that I have begun to suspect are not covered adequately in Tournadre and Sangda Dorje. For one thing: vowel harmony. I read an article that made a strong case for very consistent vowel harmony in Standard Tibetan, so that, for example, "Norbu" is actually pronounced [nùrpu]. Another issue is the effect of closed vs. open syllables on vowel realization; Tournadre and Sangda Dorje discuss this briefly but I find their description a bit unclear. There also seems to be a phonemically distinctive [ə] which appears inconsistently where [ɑ] would be expected. These issues introduce multiple new phonemic vowel qualities which are unmentioned in Tournadre and Sangda Dorje. There's also the issue of tone, which they describe as operating at the word level, but most other authors seem to describe it at the syllable level. I'm at a bit of a loss for how to incorporate these additional complexities into Wikipedia since they would mean contradicting what I take as the standard reference in the field, and the alternative sources are not written as clearly and comprehensively. It's worth noting that the stated goal of Manual of Standard Tibetan is to teach readers to communicate in spoken and written Tibetan, whereas most of the other literature in question is attempting to investigate the complexities of the Lhasa dialect (and other dialects) as it is spoken on the ground; when you think about it, those are very different purposes.&mdash;Greg Pandatshang (talk) 15:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

My understanding, pieced together from Tournadre and Sangda Dorje, a few papers by other authors, and a professor who once made a series of comments on Wikipedia's talk page for Tibetan, is that there are three main synchronic processes affecting Tibetan vowels (plus irregular occurrences of [ə] for orthographic a, even in monosyllabic words, not as a result of any regular process). The processes I have in mind are fronting (the i-mutation), laxing in closed syllables, and raising due to vowel harmony. Laxing can provide minimal pairs word-internally because Standard Tibetan doesn't allow geminate consonants. Note that I've pieced this together despite the fact that sources seem to contradict each other. For example, the professor mentioned above stated clearly that there is no closed-syllable laxing effect.

These processes result in 10 to 13 distinct oral vowel phonemes. I say 10 to 13 because 1 of th e 13 is probably identical to another, and also 2 pairs of them are in complementary distribution (Tibetans might regard them as distinct sounds, but there can never be a minimal pair). These are the 13 phones, related to the 5 orthographic vowels (the latter presumably reflect the vowel system of Old Tibetan):

1. [ɑ] (or [a], I really have no idea which). This is the basic realization of a. 2. [e]. Basic realization of e. 3. [i]. Basic realization of i. 4. [o]. Basic realization of o. 5. [u]. Basic realization of u. 6. [ɛ] (or [ɛ~æ]. Fronted a. 7. [ø]. Fronted o. 8. [y]. Fronted u. 9. [ə] (or [ɐ] or [ʌ]). Laxed or raised a. Also occurs irregularly for a in other environments. 10. [ɔ]. Laxed o. 11. [ ̈ɛ]. Laxed e. This phone is probably identical to [ɛ] (fronted a). 12. [ɪ]. Raised fronted a (also raised laxed e?). This phone is in complementary distribution with [ɛ]. 13. [ʊ]. Raised laxed o. This phone is in complementary distribution with [ɔ].

P.S. I was a bit surprised to hear about [ə] in local pronunciations of "Lhasa". I though I had heard somewhere that bona fide Lhasans pronounce it [l̥ɛːsɑ].&mdash;Greg Pandatshang (talk) 19:40, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Article upgrade assistance request (Pre-translation stage)
Seasons Greetings,

This is in reference to a relatively new umbrella article on en-wikipedia named Ceremonial pole. Ceremonial pole is a human tradition since ancient times; either existed in past at some point of time, or still exists in some cultures across global continents from north to south & from east to west. Ceremonial poles are used to symbolize a variety of concepts in several different world cultures.

Through article Ceremonial pole we intend to take encyclopedic note of cultural aspects and festive celebrations around Ceremonial pole as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

While Ceremonial poles have a long past and strong presence but usually less discussed subject. Even before we seek translation of this article in global languages, we need to have more encyclopedic information/input about Ceremonial poles from all global cultures and languages. And we seek your assistance in the same.

Since other contributors to the article are insisting for reliable sources and Standard native english; If your contributions get deleted (for some reason like linguistics or may be your information is reliable but unfortunately dosent match expectations of other editors) , please do list the same on Talk:Ceremonial pole page so that other wikipedians may help improve by interlanguage collaborations, and/or some other language wikipedias may be interested in giving more importance to reliablity of information over other factors on their respective wikipedia.

This particular request is being made to you since your user name is listed in Translators available list.

Thanking you with warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 05:53, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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