User talk:Idraves

Speedy deletion nomination of Creative Technology (discipline)
Hello Idraves,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Creative Technology (discipline) for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. JamKaftan (talk) 17:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Creative Technologies
I moved a copy of the content to User:Idraves/draft. It is not uncommon to build an article as a draft and when it is complete, move it to the mainspace. When you are done with it, if you want help moving it to the mainspace, let me know! Chris lk02  Chris Kreider 18:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for rescuing it
Chrislk02, Thank you for rescuing my article, but can others edit it with me while it is in my drafts? I thought this was a crowdsourced definition, others in the field need time to add to it also. I don't want it to be all just my idea. Can I direct them to my draft to update it? Idraves (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep! you sure can. I actually followed up just to make sure that I did not scare you away, and I am glad that you are continuing to work on it.  Please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you have any question, or if I can help you out.  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 19:06, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Please put it back up
Hi Chris, if you get this, will you please put the page back up. It is finished and I think it would be awkward to give other people the draft page when I already gave them the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Technology_(discipline) url. I believe there is enough content there to merit reinstatement. Thank you. Idraves (talk) 20:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC) isabel

Creative Technology (discipline)
Hey Idraves, when you created creative technology, it looks like what you performed was a cut and paste move. This is generally seen as undesirable because it doesn't retain the page history of the article, something that should be kept. Your account should be old enough to perform a move, but if you want I can perform the move for you. First, however, the article must be deleted to make way for the move, but don't worry, nothing will be lost. Pishcal — ♣ 13:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Pishcal, I hop you can help me with that. I wasn't aware that I wasn't supposed to do it myself. If you see the conversation Chris deleted it while I was still putting content in and told me it could go back up once I had content in it. He offered to put it back up on Friday and I asked to take him up on that, but he didn't respond, so I did it myself. If you want to please feel free to perform the move from my drafts for me, but I did just make some edits to the new page after posting so would those be lost? I can copy them first?

The problem is I work in this field and the phrase "Creative technology" is often used in art, academic research and advertising, and covered amply in publications such as The Guardian and Forbes, not to mention AdWeek etc. -- but when people ask what it is, there is no easy way to saw "just look it up" although people in the industry use it all the time. So I am trying to create the page. Thank you. Idraves (talk) 13:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC) isabel


 * I've copied your two edits into the draft so that the edit history will remain. However, before I move the page, are you sure that you want me to? It's generally a good idea to have somebody review the article before it's submitted to the main article space, just to make sure it isn't deleted again. If you'd like to submit your article to be reviewed over at the Articles for Creation process, add to the top of your draft.  Pishcal  — ♣ 13:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)  Pishcal  — ♣ 13:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you User:Pishcal. I just submitted that article for review, can it still be edited in my drafts until that time?  Did you get the impression that the article is not relevant or complete in some way, is that why you are suggesting this?  The process takes three weeks; before I knew how bureacratic this process was I posted the page and invited a bunch of people to edit it, if they are trying to go to the page and edit it they will see nothing, and this is frustrating for me. Idraves (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC) Isabel


 * As far as I know you can still edit the draft while it's up for review. I suggested submitting it for review because it didn't seem that anybody else had looked at your draft since the article had been deleted. Even if the AfC process may take a while, I would say that it's better than having your article deleted again. In the mean time, would you be opposed to the deletion of the Creative Technology (discipline) article that is currently in the main article space? If anybody were to edit it it would split the page history even more.  Pishcal  — ♣ 14:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * OK User:Pishcal whatever you think is best - I have redirected my contacts to make changes to my draft page. There is some scary messaging on my draft page about draft:draft and preexisting pages that I don't understand - do I need to do anything else there?  Thank you Idraves (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2015 (UTC) Isabel
 * Upon looking further at this the Creative Technology (discipline) page is still up and therefore, I don't want to take the link for the disambiguation page off, as long as others agree the creative technology (discipline) page should be up. This is too confusing a process for me, apologies if I am doing something wrong.  Idraves (talk) 15:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC) Isabel


 * I don't understand what you're referring to, could you provide a link to something? I understand that User:Timtrent moved the page to have a Draft prefix, but I don't believe this will have an affect on anything. Pishcal  — ♣ 16:07, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * That it exists now at Draft:Creative technologies has no effect at all on your discussion. It is simply the preferred location for submitted drafts. Please continue with whatever you were doing previously with it. Fiddle   Faddle  16:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * OK thanks I get it Idraves (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC) Isabel

Your submission at Articles for creation: Creative technologies (May 15)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Calliopejen1 was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Creative technologies and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Creative_technologies Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Calliopejen1&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Creative_technologies reviewer's talk page].
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Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Idraves here - I know I am not supposed to cut and paste content into the Creative Technology page, but I didn't see a way to move my existing page in drafts into the page after it was rejected for already existing. So I cut and paste. I realize that doesn't maintain the history that was on my drafts page. Here is that history - if anyone knows a way to get this history onto the Creative Technology page, please let me know.

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