User talk:Ihavespoken

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Skeeter Jones
I noticed that you intent to add to the new article Skeeter Jones you created. As it stands at the moment it does not look like it fullfills the criteria for inclusion as you can find in the links above. Please make it your priority to show how Mr Jones qualifies for inclusion before someone deletes the article. Agathoclea (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You commented on my page (under contruction) for Skeeter Jones. I plan to document his work around the city of San Francisco with photographs of his completed renovations along with the "before" photos when they are available.  I think that the quality and quantity of his work makes him a valid topic for a Wikipedia entry.  Do you have any suggestions for how best to ensure that this is clear to others who might question the appropriateness of this entry?


 * By the way, I am working to make the tone neutral, and I'm also working to learn how to format better. If you question whether or not Skeeter is important enough to warrant inclusion, that's a subjective issue and I'd appreciate pointers to clear guideposts...  In my personal opinion, he will be heralded as a genius at some point in the future.  At what point does an as-yet-unrecognized giant among artists warrant inclusion?


 * Ihavespoken (talk) 00:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You fill find the general inclusion criteria at WP:N - In particular this will refer you to Notability_(people). What speaks against notability in the wikipedia sense is your comment above: "as-yet-unrecognized giant among artists" - The point is he needs to be recognized to warrant inclusion. Have a read at the guidelines and see if you have enough sources that show he has been recognized, else I am afraid the article will not last. Agathoclea (talk) 09:36, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Skeeter Jones/to do
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Proposed deletion of Skeeter Jones


The article Skeeter Jones has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * The reference used to "establish" notability is a promotional piece by an artisan group that he is a member of. No indication that his work would pass WP:CREATIVE.

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