User talk:Ijon/Archive 1

Israeli Wikipedians
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Israel page as living in or being associated with Israel. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Israeli Wikipedians for instructions. &mdash;Simetrical (talk) 19:02, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Referral from Frank Schulenburg of Wikimedia Outreach
Hello Asaf, My name is Marlita Kahn and I work with Frank Schulenburg. He suggested I contact you to see if you can volunteer for our Bookshelf Project. I would like to tell you more about it and would appreciate it if you email me at mkahn@wikimedia.org (I can't find an email address for you). Thank you--Marlita (talk) 20:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Chapters
I allowed myself this ;-). Hope you don't mind :) notafish  }&lt;&#39;;&gt; 10:44, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * sure, that's a lot better. Thanks! Ijon (talk) 12:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Geonotices
Thanks! Glad I could help. Kaldari (talk) 00:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

An Introduction
Hello Ijon, I'm Max Klein and also the Wikipedia Regional Ambassador to New England and I saw you signed on at the Wikipedia Club at Berkeley page which I helped start last year. This next month I am coming to Wikimania in Haifa--which is coincidental because I am considering making Aliyah--I hope to meet you there, and perhaps you can tell me more about the Hebrew Wikipedia chapter and it's activities. See you in about 2 weeks. Maximilianklein (talk) 22:48, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Max! I'm looking to start some regular public talks about Wikipedia in Berkeley, and look forward to collaborating with the WC at UCB.  By all means do let's meet at Wikimania.  When we do, I can share some thoughts on making Aliyah as well.  E-mail me at asaf AT wikimedia DOT org and let's exchange contact information.  Cheers! Ijon (talk) 23:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello again
hello asaf. im from wikimedia philippines chapter :) id really had a great time ! ^-^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xouicidal13 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, Xouicidal13!
 * Thanks, I had a great time too, and I was happy to be able to create some opportunities for Wikimedia Philippines. Your user page mentions you are interesting in manga and anime; are you aware of the relevant WikiProject?  If not, do take a look; it's the best place to get some help and guidance on contributing to Wikipedia in these topics!
 * Finally, a quick tip -- whenever adding any content to a Talk page (whether a user's talk page like this one or an article's talk page), please "sign" using four tildes ( ~ ), so that people know who wrote what (and when). Ijon (talk) 22:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Reminder! Women's History Month edit-a-thon
Just a friendly reminder about the Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon for Women's History Month :)

Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012 from 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM (PT)

Location: Wikimedia Foundation Offices 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th floor San Francisco, CA 94105

Bring: Your laptop and charger (we'll have some extra computers available), your questions, and your friends!

What to expect: A fun, laid-back environment with food, drink, a great mix of people, and a wealth of knowledge and resources.

Public transport: BART to Montgomery station and walk 1 block down New Montgomery St.

Reminder: The St. Patricks Day parade will be starting at 11:30 on Market Street. Market street will most likely be closed to cars so please plan your journey accordingly ;-)

When you arrive: A volunteer will be at the front of the building to greet everyone arriving 12:40 - 1:20. You will take the elevator up to the 6th floor.

If you are early: If you expect to come earlier than 12:40 to help set-up, please let us know, so we can give you a contact number.

If you arrive later: No problem. There will be a phone number posted to the front door of the office building. A volunteer will run down and let you in.

We can't wait to see you on Saturday! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 23:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

HighBeam

 * Hello, I am sending this message to editors who signed up for the Women's History Month Edit-a-thon. Please help spread the word. HighBeam Research--an online, pay-for-use search engine for newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias has agreed to give free, full-access, 1-year accounts for up to 1000 Wikipedia editors to use. HighBeam has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications, most of which are not available for free elsewhere on the internet. Aside from a free 7-day trial (credit card required), access to HighBeam would cost $30 per month or $200 per year for the first year and $300 for subsequent years, so this is a wonderful, free, no-strings-attached opportunity. To qualify, editors must have at least a 1 year-old account with 1000 edits.  Please add your name to the WP:HighBeam/Applications account sign-up page if you are interested.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  18:33, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
hi

Tigerlillies101 (talk) 22:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC) 

A kitten for you!
you could always email me at tigerlillies101@gmail.com. i thank you for your help! :)

Tigerlillies101 (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2012 (UTC) 

A kitten for you!
sorry........ my email is gummybeargurl123@gmail.com   again........ I'm sorry. :(

Tigerlillies101 (talk) 22:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC) 

New Page Triage/New Pages Feed
Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:35, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

John McCormack (tenor)
Just a note to say I've changed the disambigution reference back to John McCormack (disambiguation) which is more correct. Denisarona (talk) 05:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, absolutely right! Good catch, thanks. Ijon (talk) 22:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four
Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!


 * Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!


 * What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
 * ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
 * Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
 * 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
 * Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
 * New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.


 * Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
 * New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
 * Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
 * Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
 * Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
 * Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 16:42, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
 * Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is really encouraging to new Wikipedians.

Talkback
The message is User:Stephenwanjau/awards  SUwanja   Talk to Me.   Email Me.  13:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter
Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).

The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on 9 August. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs.

I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:13, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Five
Hi! Welcome to the fifth edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!


 * Guest activity increased in July. Questions are up from an average of 36 per week in June to 43 per week in July, and guest profile creation has also increased. This is likely a result of the automatic invite experiments we started near the end of month, which seeks to lessen the burden on hosts and other volunteer who manually invite editors. During the last week of July, questions doubled in the Teahouse! (But don't let that deter you from inviting editors to the Teahouse, please, there are still lots of new editors who haven't found Teahouse yet.)
 * More Teahouse hosts than ever. We had 12 new hosts sign up to participate at the Teahouse! We now have 35 hosts volunteering at the Teahouse. Feel free to stop by and see them all here.
 * Phase two update: Host sprint. In August, the Teahouse team plans to improve the host experience by developing a simpler new-host creation process, a better way of surfacing active hosts, and a host lounge renovation. Take a look at the plan and weigh in here.
 * New Teahouse guest barnstar is awarded to first recipient: Charlie Inks. Using the Teahouse barnstar designed by Heatherawalls, hosts hajatvrc and Ryan Vesey created the new Teahouse Guest Barnstar. The first recipient is Charlie Inks, for her boldness in asking questions at the Teahouse. Check out the award in action here.
 * Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania! The Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania this past month, where editor retention and interface design was heavily discussed. Sarah and Jonathan presented the Teahouse during the Wikimedia Fellowships panel. Slides can be viewed here. A lunch was also held at Wikimania for Teahouse hosts.

As always, thanks for supporting the Teahouse project! Stop by and visit us today!

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. SarahStierch (talk) 08:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

New Pages newsletter
Hey all :)

A couple of new things.

First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the Curation Toolbar. Hopefully this will be the last namechange ;p.

On the subject of the Curation Toolbar (nice segue, Oliver!) - it's now deployed on Wikipedia. Just open up any article in the New Pages Feed and it should appear on the right.

It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the project talkpage and I'll be happy to help :). Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:09, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Six
Hi! Welcome to the sixth edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!
 * Teahouse serves over 700 new editors in six months on Wikipedia! Since February 27, 741 new editors have participated at the Teahouse. The Q&A board and the guest intro pages are more active than ever.
 * Automatic invites are doing the trick: 50% more new editors visiting each week. Ever since HostBot's automated invite trial phase began we've seen a boost in new editor participation. Automating a baseline set of invitations also allows Teahouse hosts to focus on serving hot cups of help to guests, instead of spending countless hours inviting.
 * Guests to the Teahouse continue to edit more & interact more with other community members than non-Teahouse guests according to six month metrics. Teahouse guests make more than twice the article edits and edit more talk pages than other new editors.
 * New host process implemented which encourages anyone to get started as a Teahouse host in a few easy steps. Stop by the hosts page and become a Teahouse host today!
 * Host lounge renovations nearing completion. Working closely with Teahouse hosts, we've made some major renovations to the Teahouse Host Lounge - the main hangout and resource space for hosts. Learn more about the improvements here.

As always, thanks for supporting the Teahouse project! Stop by and visit us today!

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You're invited! - Wiki Loves Monuments - San Francisco Events
Hi! As part of Wiki Loves Monuments, we're organizing two photo events in the San Francisco Bay Area and one in Yosemite National Park. We hope you can come out and participate! Feel free to contact User:Almonroth with questions or concerns.

There are three events planned:


 * September 15, Saturday - A bike ride along San Francisco's waterfront
 * September 22-23rd, Saturday-Sunday - Wiki Takes Yosemite
 * September 29, Saturday - A sunset and harvest moon bridges, palace, boats and tower tour

We look forward to seeing you there!

You are receiving this message because you signed up on the SF Bay Area event listing, or have attended an event in the Bay Area. To remove yourself, please go here. EdwardsBot (talk) 00:43, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation update
Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter
Hey. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.

Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

helpful advice
Hi Asaf. Thank you for your warm welcome to the Wikipedia Community and also your encouragement.

Gina.Hogue (talk) 11:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter - closing up!
Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

This is not a newsletter
This is just a tribute.

Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.

In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:01, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon tomorrow (Saturday) in Oakland
Hi, I hope you will be joining us tomorrow afternoon at the Edit-a-thon at Tech Liminal, in Oakland. We'll be working on articles relating to women and democracy (and anything else that interests you). It's sponsored by the California League of Women Voters, Tech Liminal, and me.

If this is the first you are hearing of this event, my apologies for the last-minute notice! I announced it on the San Francisco email list and by a banner on your watchlist, but I neglected to look at the San Francisco invitation list until this evening. If you can't make it this time, I hope to see you at a similar event soon! -Pete (talk) 04:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

our favorite author[citation needed]
So you know what page I was reading just now? Dorothy Sayers. And you know what I realized? With a bit of a push, I bet we could get it to FA. Interested? I actually have a bunch of Sayers scholarship checked out atm, but could use some help figuring out the flow of the article. I am a bit of a dilettante when it comes to FAs, but it might be a fun thing to poke at over the next few weeks. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 03:34, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

From 2005
Wikipedia_Signpost/2005-01-31/Heavy_metal_umlaut

See also the History Flow history and related work by Martin Wattenberg and Fernanda Viegas. – SJ + 21:57, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven
Hello again! We have some neat updates about the Teahouse:
 * We’ve added badges! Teahouse awards is a pilot project to learn how acknowledgement impacts engagement and retention in Teahouse and Wikipedia.


 * We’ve got a new WikiLove Badge script that makes giving badges quick and easy. You can add it here.  You can give out badges to thank helpful hosts, welcome guests, acknowledge great questions and more.


 * Come join the experiment and let us know what you think!


 * You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here

Thanks again! Ocaasi 02:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)


It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.

Teahouse guests and hosts are sharing their stories in a new blog post about the project.

1 year statistics for Teahouse visitors compared to invited non-visitors from the pilot:

Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

Come by the Teahouse to share a cup of tea and enjoy a Birthday Cupcake! Happy Birthday to the Teahouse and thank you for a year's worth of interest and support :-)
 * -- Ocaasi and the rest of the Teahouse Team 20:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Kansas City KA/MO? re Ma Murray
I don't have the source book on her handy I used for that article; she was from Kansas, it's not clear which Kansas City is the one in question; where the cowboy hat plant was....whichever that would be.Skookum1 (talk) 03:21, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, Skookum1. Since KC, KA is essentially a suburb of the larger KC, MO, and since we don't know which Kansas City Murray was born in, and considering the fact an unqualified "Kansas City" usually refers to KC, MO, it's reasonable to direct the reader to the KC, MO page.  But if you feel strongly it should remain a link to the disambiguation page, go ahead and change it to link to Kansas City (disambiguation). Ijon (talk) 04:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Geo-targeted Editors Participation
Hello Ijon,

In the Geo-targeted Editors Participation ad (or notice), I noticed that the spelling is wrong. The ad stated "Join us & help improve Wikipedia's coverage of the Phillipines". The editor might have overlooked the word "Philippines" with double L rather than double P in the middle. In the ad "You can improve Wikipedia's coverage of the Philippines. Learn how!", the ad appear nice. --Exec8 (talk) 15:22, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was unfortunate. :( Thanks for the heads up, and I'm glad it's been fixed already. Ijon (talk) 03:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

List_of_natural_horror_films
Hello, i deleted the entry mammalas just because it was repeated, the title and the content. You can check it out.

I hope you accept the edition i made.

Greetings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.155.96.16 (talk) 01:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Gluttony
the section at the bottom of the page for gluttony lists occurences of gluttony in the Bible (KJV). The quoted section of Proverbs "And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite." is taken rather out of context. The passage has little to do with gluttony, more to do with pride, self control, and taking adequate caution in your situation. A more full quote is

"When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."

and I felt it necessary and important to the authenticity of the quote to either remove it from the page of Gluttony, or to give it proper context by adding the line prior to the included one. Either way, I hope you can see why I found the previous state of the page to be erroneous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.143.167 (talk) 10:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right! This does make sense, my mistake! Ijon (talk) 23:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Wolfgang Stark
What did i say wrong about him?

Does he still get to call important matches even if he was voted the worst referee in the Bundesliga ? YES

Do big teams profit more from referee's mistakes than small ones ? YES

Does FIFA accept video technology even if it could fix those mistakes ? NO

Let's be honest, money makes the world go around and FIFA are no different (just take a look where the 2022 World Cup is held). It's good for business to get the big teams with the big stars in the big matches. But we should not be allowed to talk about that since they will never admit it. If it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. You found my recent contributions were not constructive. I guess trying to tell the unofficial truth instead of the official lies is not constructive. But I don't blame you, you are only a simple agent of a bigger fish that is making write what they want.

Next time, just erase my comment, I was expecting it after all. But don't insult my intelligence by telling me my comment was not constructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.247.177 (talk) 06:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. First of all, let me clarify I know next to nothing about football or Mr. Stark.  The reason I removed your contribution was that it was against Wikipedia policy, not because I disagree with your opinion.
 * Specifically, your assertion that "Bundesliga players even voted him as the worst referee in the league", while possibly true, was not demonstrated to be true, i.e. you did not provide a source documenting this alleged vote. What Wikipedia states needs to be not only true, but demonstrably true, i.e. verifiable.  Furthermore, your assertion that "still he gets to call big matches so he can ruin someone's chances of wining fairly" is a personal opinion, and, whether correct/justified or not, personal opinions have no place in Wikipedia.


 * I hope this helps you understand why your contribution could not remain as written. By all means, find a reliable source for the vote, at least, and you can certainly add it to the article. Ijon (talk) 00:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

deletion
hello there. Deleting was no mistake. Part of one of my examinations is creating a wiki page. and I'm still struggling with it. thanks for your support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudia Morar (talk • contribs) 16:22, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Women's history editathon
Hey - Sorry for the late notice, but since you have yourself tagged as living in the Bay Area, I thought you might appreciate notification that we’re having an event Saturday! It’ll be held at Hoyt Hall, an all-women's house of the Berkeley Student Cooperative from 3 to 6 pm tomorrow. The main event page is here. Anyone is welcome to show up, but we’re expecting a significant number of people to come who have literally never edited Wikipedia before. If you’re an experienced Wikipedian who would be able to provide useful help to some of the newbies, your presence would be especially appreciated (and it might be a good idea for you to show up at 2 or 2:30 instead of three. Thanks, Kevin Gorman (talk) 01:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC) I’m AWB’ing this message to all Wikipedians who have tagged themselves in the bay area.  I’m sorry if the message isn’t of interest to you; feel free to delete it.   I’ll be unlikely to send future messages in a similar way, but if really don’t want to receive future messages of this sort, please let me know.

Wiknic 2013
"Wiknic 2013 Sunday, June 23rd · 12:34pm · Lake Merritt, Oakland Theme: Hyperlocal list-making" This year's 2013 SF Wiknik will be held at Lake Merritt, next to Children's Fairyland in Oakland. This event will be co-attended by people from the hyperlocal Oakland Wiki. May crosspollination of ideas and merriment abound!

Location and Directions

 * Location: The grassy area due south of Children's Fairyland (here) (Oakland Wiki)
 * Nearest BART: 19th Street
 * Nearest bus lines: NL/12/72
 * Street parking abounds

EdwardsBot (talk) 04:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

May 3 2013, 19-20h UTC, GLAMout Google Hangout Link Location is GLAM/GLAMout
Hello, You signed up to participate or view in this month's GLAMout. We'll be using Google Hangout, but unfortunately the link to the Hangout won't be available, until 15 minutes beforehand. We'll post the link as soon as possible at GLAM/GLAMout

Time: 12pm-1pm Pacific Time (3pm-4pm ET | 19-20h UTC) Coordinator: Merrilee Proffitt, OCLC Anchor topic: VIAFbot and authority control in EN:WP, and on Wikidata.

EdwardsBot (talk) 05:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikisource and GLAM
Hi Asaf, I wanted to elaborate a little more on the discussion at Signpost, and offer some of my opinions on why Wikisource matters. I apologize if you are familiar with what I write, or if it's already been explained by Doug and Billinghurst. If you look at the other major libraries, each reveal tremendous benefits, and in some way, major detriments. Google Books will likely always have more publications available than any other website. The rate at which books are scanned and donated is astounding, and it is in many ways the best resource for researching in general. Numbers and scans are their strongsuit. Project Gutenberg has been proofing texts for 40 years, amassing some 40,000 works. Offering their hosted works in plaintext and the sheer number is their strongsuit. There are certainly many others, but each are probably in most ways like one of the two that I've mentioned. What each lack is where Wikisource comes in. When it comes to reliability, Project Gutenberg falls short. Alot of the text lacks publication and edition info, which becomes important when trying to offer an accurate representation of the original. This includes typographical errors, presumably both unintentional and intentional, OCR errors, formatting loss, which is especially important for poetry, and so on. Without any info on the edition, it makes the opportunity to "fix" anything impossible. Some publications omit lines, change wording and spelling, and we have no way to know what is correct. Collaboration cannot easily occur, because both or several parties would have to have the specific edition. And with many of the classic works likely being transcribed decades ago, it is hard to imagine that there were more than one contributor for some works, or that the edition between parties was shared. I'm sure you're familiar with the history of Wikisource, and the significance of the ice berg logo. The truth is that a good deal of the texts at Wikisource appearing before 2008 were likely copy-pastes of Gutenberg texts, or a similar site. When we started to match the Gutenberg-sourced text with scans, we found many important differences and errors. Since then, Wikisourcers typically never source to a PG-like source, with all (but one that comes to mind) of us comparing against a page scan of the original. If I had to make a comparison in Wikipedian terms, Gutenberg would be not be a reliable source for texts. Gutenberg editors years ago may have updated spellings, fixed typogrphical errors or introduced their own, and so on. Maybe like citing a blog; there is no authority on the scholarship of submissions. Final words: it leaves readers without a reliable representation of the text. When it comes to reading text across a variety of devices, Google falls short. Since it defaults to a PDF scan (though OCR is available) loading a larger publication can be devastating to the reader. Additionally, try reading a PDF on a mobile device, or an encyclopedic work with small text on a tablet. It is extremely difficult. Leave a country with good internet access and it is next to impossible. Google also tends not to have legal and historical documents. An example: middle school student is assigned to analyze a 16th century work and begins reading on GBooks, the problem is that between archaic typography, spelling, yellowing of the pages and so on, it proves rather difficult. Final words: it is mostly inaccessible by various means. Now, I picture Wikisource as the perfect medium between these two resources. The ProofreadPage system at Wikisource is worlds away from what any other online library has, and can do. In use, it gives the most reliable means of reading transcribed plain-text. We have multiple editors checking against individual pages. We transclude them into mainspace with plain text. It's that simple. Looking at the shortcomings of the prior mentioned we find that Wikisource can meet all needs. At Commons, we specify all major library catalogs; each scan is tied to a specific ISBN, OCLC, etc.; this of course feeds into Wikisource, where there is no issue of variation in editions since we are looking at a specific scan. This allows us to collaborate with eachother to proofread the work, many times across continents. There are no concerns of modernizing typography and spellings, we try to offer both to the reader, and have templates that switch between something like a long s between page and mainspace. Formatting is not lost, with poems appearing as close as possible to the original; something poets might like to know :) We also permit different publications of the same work, so if you are to look up a popular work like The Raven, you might get several versions, and there might be special variations, some with illustrations, some which are regarded as awful, some which are regarded as scholarly and so on. And of course, since our text is reduced to plain-text and html, there are no issues of accessibility across devices and countries. Without going too much into detail, we offer all of the benefits that Wikipedia offers like wikilinking, categorizing and navigation. We can even reference internally, which can marginally improve "link rot." Regarding why I chose The Yellow Wallpaper to proofread at the GLAM event and neglecting that it is considered important and that it was short, the text hosted at Wikisource was unsourced. Just like a Wikipedia article holds no real value (in theory) without proper sourcing, so did this work prior to proofreading and transclusion. It was mostly for a 20 minute tutorial, as the other 40 were spent describing the goals of Wikisource. After we were done, I did a quick comparison. What I found was that there were several transcription errors in the unsourced version, likely introduced by the person who originally typed it up, and most importantly, an entire missing line: "I see her in that long shaded lane, creeping up and down. I see her in those dark grape arbors, creeping all around the garden" did not appear in our unsourced version. Now this is a very short work, imagine what else is out there roaming around the web rife with errors! The only way I see Wikisource efforts as being redundant is if you consider all other transcription projects perfect. Wikisource is of course, not perfect, and as a wiki it will always suffer and benefit from this. However, our project is the only one that I know of doing what we do. If you are still not convinced, I urge you to roam around Wikisource and take a look around! - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

You're invited...
to two upcoming Bay Area events:
 * Maker Faire 2013, Sat/Sun May 18-19, San Mateo -- there will have a booth about Wikimedia, and we need volunteers to talk to the public and ideas for the booth -- see the wiki page to sign up!
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From Italian Commando:Italic text I don't see how it was better before. For one, the casualty numbers across the page conflicted with each other. Some said 40, some said 250 & I was fixing that. Plus, I chose the ones presented by the Italian historians because for one, many British historians, more specifically the ones around the time of when the History of the Second World War was made, were incredibly bias & racist towards Italy's participation in the war. Plus, given all the variables, the casualty number the Italian historians put up made a lot more sense.

Also, in regards to the segment I deleted, that's because it's untrue. The Italian invasion of France, to which I have to get to that page next, wasn't a defeat. They just didn't get very far, being that they had little time. Plus, they completed their objectives, the French Alps. None of the Italian occupation zone was given in the armistice, Mussolini refused to receive what would've been a lot more of southern France. He only wanted "what my troops took". Plus, besides time, they were attacking France through the alps & the Alpine Line, to which the Nazis did neither. Either way, they took land & they surrendered to the Nazis, so it's pretty clear it's a victory. So it could not be considered the first Italian victory, & technically, the invasions of Sudan, Kenya & initial stages in Egypt count as victories as well, so it also doesn't count as the only one without German help.

Believe me, the rest of this site needs some major clean up as well, regarding history.

Bold textPart 2: My references are yours, the Italian Historians said those casualties & they're the most reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Italian Commando (talk • contribs) 23:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, Italian Commando. I'd like to believe you, but see, on Wikipedia, we want reliable sources, rather than take anyone's word.  It is entirely possible you are absolutely correct in everything you say!  But the previous figures had references showing where they came from, and you replaced them with different figures without a reliable source.
 * By all means, if you'd like to suggest we represent the views of historians X rather than historians Y, start a discussion on the talk page of that page, where you can argue for preferring one source over another. We'd welcome that discussion!  Please don't be offended that we don't just take your word for it.  You probably wouldn't want Wikipedia to take just anyone's word on other things, either! Ijon (talk) 23:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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somehow your comment at the wheatbelt railway project was missed, apology for the delay in the response. cheers  satusuro 03:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)


 * now because it is a conflation and confusion of a sub project that has no necessary connection with the IEG project as proposed, I feel that it would be helpful to link and or copy the response at the meta talk page, as it might help clarify the differences between the projects. I do hope that is ok with you, please let me know if I need to clarify anything further. satusuro 08:43, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Miktam
Hi Asaf,

I found Miktam while doing New Page Patrol. Do you have any comments or suggestions about it?

Happy Occidental New Year! --Slashme (talk) 17:24, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi! It's correct, as far as it goes.  I have added the Hebrew spelling, and a note on the modern usage of the word (now meaning "epigram").  Can't interwiki, because the Hebrew Wikipedia article interwikis to epigram already. Ijon (talk) 21:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! --Slashme (talk) 07:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)