User talk:Ikigai2009

Your submission at Articles for creation: Business Innovations Generator (June 21)
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Numberguy6 (talk) 16:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Will explore your suggestions! ~ Ikigai2009 (talk) 01:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Stansfield College moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Stansfield College, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. BrutBrother (talk) 14:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Consumers Association of Singapore moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Consumers Association of Singapore, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Right now, most of the references are the company's website, and it does not appear to meet WP:NCORP. In addition, it is very promotional and is not written in the tone expected of a Wikipedia article. I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. >>> Ingenuity . talk ; 00:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I noted that you have lifted a few sentences directly from here, please note this will violate copyrights and its not acceptable here in Wikipedia. Please do read, understand and rewrite accordingly based on your own words. For the time being, I will delete the offending sentences. Thanks~! Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 01:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

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Institutions of Public Character (IPC) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Institutions of Public Character (IPC), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 01:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Stansfield College has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stansfield College. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 02:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Protege Ventures (June 29)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:59, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Singapore Coffee Association (June 29)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Valereee was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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valereee (talk) 15:23, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SMU Greenhouse (July 5)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Akevsharma was:

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Akevsharma (talk) 01:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Protege Ventures (July 7)
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 DGG ( talk ) 06:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Business Innovations Generator (July 12)
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Akevsharma (talk) 02:47, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Akevsharma! Aside from reliable sources, could i check if I managed to to indicate this properly as a stub? Ikigai2009 (talk) 11:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lee Kuan Yew Global Business Plan Competition (September 6)
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MaxnaCarta (talk) 13:06, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Dear MaxnaCarta,
 * Thanks for sharing the comments! Could I check if I correctly marked this article as a stub?
 * Also, the sources are taken from a variety of independent, reliable, published sources, many from news articles about the competition itself with even an account from a blog article from an event attendee discussing about the competition objectively and extensively. The speech from the Guest of Honour Deputy Prime Minister is also referred to, to indicate the history of the topic.
 * I have drafted a number of articles on different topics but have been rejected and so am very clueless on how to get an article published.
 * Appreciate any assistance here! Ikigai2009 (talk) 14:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @MaxnaCarta sorry tagging you :) Ikigai2009 (talk) 14:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The reasons for rejection are very clearly set out. The subjects are not notable. You can’t tag the article as a stub. That’s an assessment the reviewer makes when approving the article. As these aren’t approved no class is set. MaxnaCarta (talk) 22:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply! Ikigai2009 (talk) 05:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Institutions of Public Character (IPC) (October 11)
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Your draft article, Draft:Stansfield College


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Your draft article, Draft:SMU Greenhouse


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