User talk:Ilgiz

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räxim itegez!
Wikipediägä räxim itegez! --Untifler 22:27, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Italian idioms
Hi Ilgiz,

just for future reference, the verb sentire can mean either "feel" or "hear"; in this case it means "hear". The idiom (or maybe just slightly unusual grammatical construction) sentire parlare di means "to hear (someone else) speak of". --Trovatore 19:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
For this edit. I hope to see you continue to follow my steps around here. 172 | Talk 18:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Tri kita
Ilgiz, could you please take a look at Three Whales Corruption Scandal? Colchicum 16:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Vlad fedorov
I have filed a request concerning Vlad Fedorov's conduct. You might be interested in taking part in the discussion at Requests for comment/Vlad fedorov, as you have been involved in some of the disputes. Colchicum 14:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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 * Как можно с Вами связаться? Напишите мне через Вики-почту пустое письмо пж-ста.--Barnaul (talk) 21:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Why did you delete the Berezovsky information and reinsert the original research "Chronology of events" under the guise of "The editorial generalization of the references as if they "describe" the FSB plot arguments as a "conspiracy theory" is single-sided. We have a break-down of these references in the same section."?--Miyokan (talk) 12:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe Wikipedia editors' interpretation of the sources should remain as close to the secondary (analytic articles and books) and primary sources (published facts) as possible. I thought that explaining the particular aspects against the theory of FSB involvement is more accurate than putting all the references under a single sentence.  This single sentence may break the neutrality (i.e. may bring own editorial conjectures that were not implied by the authors of the sources).
 * The same goes about the chronology. Interpreting is left to the reader.  If you see that the chronology omits certain key events, please add these events.  Events such as an FSB officer signing a Ryazan training exercise plan without communicating it with the Ryazan regional department or publishing medical records on death of Yuri Schekochihin would be of special value.ilgiz (talk) 12:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok that's fine but I added other relevant information but pro-FSB theory users Pietervhuis and Biophys have been censoring/vandalizing it.--Miyokan (talk) 10:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

reverts
Hello, please stop making unexplained reverts without adding to the conversation in discussion. You've already broken the Three revert rule, so I'll be forced to report you if you continue. 99.240.27.210 (talk) 21:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mironov_Visits_Vityaz.pdf
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Restructuring of Russian Apartment Bombings page
We are currently discussing this. Perhaps you would like to join us, as you have suggested an interest before. Mariya - x -Mariya Oktyabrskaya (talk) 18:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Please explain
Regarding this edit, what's the basis for this change? It sounds pretty POVish, like you're trying to prove a point that only Russian government workers agree on this statement, which isn't true. The article cites GOLOS, the SCO monitoring group and PACE as agreeing with this statement, among others (countries official responses etc.. "Germany and France made clear the vote did not meet their criteria for a democratic election, but alongside Britain and the European Union they congratulated Medvedev on a victory they said appeared to reflect the will of the Russian people.).

You can find statements by PACE in the RIA article cited, "Andreas Gross, head of the group from the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), said Sunday's vote was a "reflection of the will of the electorate whose democratic potential unfortunately has not been tapped." Here's a western source with the same thing.

In the same article, the CIS monitoring group said: "The CIS observer mission states that the election is a major factor in the further democratization of public life in the Russian Federation, and recognizes it as free, open and transparent,"

So why did you make the changes that you did, changing "most" to "The Kremlin and its controlled media", when the sources and the rest of the article clearly support the original wording? Sbw01f (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Moved the discussion to the article's talk page. --ilgiz (talk) 17:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

De-linking Levada Center from VTSIOM
If you mean the external link i removed, it obviously does not belong to the VCIOM article as these are now separate entities. Although i think a "See also" link should be there now as the organisations are historically closely linked.Muscovite99 (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * Hey, I saw the fair use rationale, so you can use it if you've got a good rationale. But I deleted it because it's in pdf format, can't be used as an image.  You can upload it in another format if you have the rationale and everything to comply with WP:FU.  Let me know on my talk page if you need help or have anything to discuss.  Peace,  delldot   &nabla;.  16:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Apartment bombings
Hi, I noticed that you've made many constructive edits on the article, without taking part in the edit war. Do you have an opinion on the latest argument about the "attempted bombings" and the "second introduction," or maybe about the article on the whole? In any case, I think you've done a good job with your edits. Offliner (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me keep my opinion to myself because the editorials should remain neutral. --ilgiz (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't mean to ask your opinion on the subject, but on the article, i.e. what should be done and what not. Offliner (talk) 20:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I am concerned with the integrity, formatting of the references and their proper summaries. --ilgiz (talk) 20:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

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Reply from Articles for deletion/Allegations of state terrorism by Russia (3rd nomination)
You can contest the decision at WP:DRV although the consensus seemed clear for a deletion. Unless you might want to merge some of the content of the deleted article (like the sourced ones) to other articles that might be related to it. I can send a copy of the deleted article into a userspace page of yours or via e-mail. JForget 01:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * See User:Ilgiz/Allegations of state terrorism by Russia for the userfied version. -- JForget 17:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. --ilgiz (talk) 19:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Min Chen
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Russian apartment bombings
Hello, Ilgiz. I've just looked at the early version of the article edited by you. I just want to say respect to you. How easy is it, when nobody tries to prove that some group of people are bloody murderers (without proper -- or any -- evidence, of course). ellol (talk) 16:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Harvard references
Regarding this edit, I've used Harvnb in several articles, and I could have sworn that the "jump to the full reference" capability did work, without a 'ref' field being inserted. Did something change in Cite book or Citation/core recently? Or is my memory fried? --RL0919 (talk) 22:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I received an answer at Template talk:Cite book which pointed me to Template talk:Citation/core. People realized that cite[@id] attributes should be unique, and it should be up to the users of the citation templates to specify unique IDs.  So they changed the default behaviour to no IDs at all. --ilgiz (talk) 23:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that discussion shortly after I placed my message here. Not necessarily the decision I would have made, but I understand the reasons they had for doing it. So now there are a dozen articles that I put Harvard refs in that will need editing to add refids. Oh, well. Thanks for pointing this out. --RL0919 (talk) 16:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi
Thank you for commenting at "bombings" pages. There is interesting article, about the post-traumatic syndrome in Volgodonsk. That was an eye opener for me. I did not know that even dogs have it.Biophys (talk) 01:13, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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Shutter Island (film)
Hello, I have reverted your recent edit to Shutter Island (film). "Explaining" needs to be done by references to third party sources, otherwise it fails the Wikipedia policy of no original research. Active Banana (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you use quotation marks in this comment and in the comment to the revert as means of paraphrasing or conveying the exact use of words? --ilgiz (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if I came off snotty
It was definitely NOT my intention but a real life homie who also watches that page pointed out to me that I could have sounded more than a bit curt in our exchange via edit summaries on Shutter Island. Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out how to say a lot in a little bit of space. So if I seemed rude, I definitely didn't mean to and my apologies. Millahnna (mouse) talk  18:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no need to apologize. Every change may hurt feelings of other editors.  I agreed with the shorter version you suggested.  And thanks for re-using my findings in your last edit. --ilgiz (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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Something funny
Hi, Ilgiz!

Please take a brief moment reviewing an edit to the Russian Apartment Bombings article. I should stress that it's a good edit made on clear assumptions. If you follow the link in the ref, you can see the quote by Lebed which ends with the footnote number "33" and the footnote itself on page 387: "33. Ibid.; Lebed interview in Le Figaro (February 17, 1997)".

Except that of course, the date is wrong. :-)

With Klebnikov's book in my hands, I can explain how everybody got confused. The reference is actually to the following passage on pp. 268-269 (Chapter 9, "Oligarchy"):

"The winner of the Sibneft auction submitted a bid for $110 million, just $9 million more than the starting price. The winner of the 1995 auction and the organizer of the 1997 auction was NFK (Oil Finance Company). The winner of the 1997 auction was called FNK (Finance Oil Company). No one knew for sure who was behind FNK. In public Berezovsky strenuously denied any connection to the outfit. He was already known to be linked with the organizer of the auction, NFK; to admit to being the man behind the winner of the auction, FNK, would have revealed a conflict of interest. Moreover, Berezovsky was a government official and hence prohibited from engaging in commercial activity. The public was told that the owners of FNK were two subsidiaries of Aleksandr Smolensky's SBS-Agro Bank (as Stolichny Bank was now known). But there could be little doubt that the real owner of both NFK and FNK was the same man: Boris Berezovsky. [32]

"This was a comedy and it remains a comedy," snorts Alfred Kokh. In fact, the actions of Berezovsky in acquiring Sibneft were so thinly disguised that the quote that comes to mind is Lebed's: "Berezovsky... is not satisfied with stealing—he wants everybody to see that he is stealing with impunity." [33]"

There's another footnote with the same number (33) on page 389, which lists several sources including "Lebed interview with Le Figaro (September 29, 1999)".

Document hippo (talk) 00:51, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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Revert on "Same-origin policy"
You reverted my edit on Same-origin policy. I have edited again to take your criticism into account. Feel free to look it over.

Incidentally, I would have found it more helpful to edit out the part of my edit you disagreed with, rather than completely reverting it, since you only objected to part of it. Maybe you can consider this in the future - as explained on Help:Reverting, improving an edit is generally preferred to reverting it, unless it is clearly pointless. Thanks! Sebastian (talk) 23:58, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Ah sorry I was reading too fast. The phrase "In earlier browsers, web pages could freely load resources (such as images) from different origins" looked like intending to contrast with modern browsers but now I understand it was aiming at explaining why SOP became necessary with the advent of Javascript. --ilgiz (talk) 14:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)