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Macedon's Territory: Literature Quotes and Maps
Maps:

A.In the context of the Ancient Greece

450BC http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/athenian_empire_450.jpg 431BC http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/greece_pelop_war_431.jpg 362BC http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/greece_362.jpg 359-336BC http://student.britannica.com/comptons/art-54590/Macedonia 336-323BC http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/macedonian_empire_336_323.jpg Reference http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd_1911/shepherd-c-010-011.jpg

B.In the context of the Ancient Balkans

Reference http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg

Quotes:

A. World Encyclopedia (2005):  "Macedon Ancient country in se Europe, roughly corresponding to present-day Macedonia, Greek Macedonia, and Bulgarian Macedonia."

B. Borza, E. N. In the shadow of Olympus; The Emergence of Macedon p28."At its zenith Macedonian influence prevailed in an area that includes virtually all of modern Greek Macedonia and much of Yugoslav Macedonia, including territory not drained by the Haliacmon-Axios. Macedon must then be defined as the Balkan region where Macedonians ruled."

C. Grant, M. A Guide to the Ancient World: A Dictionary of Classical Place Names p367."Macedonia Makedonia The central part of the Balkan peninsula, north of Greece, west of Thrace, and south of Illyrian and the Danubian territories."

D. Robert, J. (editor) The Oxford Dictionary of the Classical World "Macedonia links the Balkans and the Greek peninsula. Four important routes converge on the Macedonian plain. Hesod considered the 'Macedones' to be an outlying branch of the Greek-speaking tribes, with distinctive dialect of their own. He gave their habitat 'Pieria and Olympus'. A new dinasty, the Temenids, ruling the Macedonians, founded their capital at Aegae c. 650 BC, and thereafter gained control of the coastal plain as far as the Axius. The Persian occupation of Macedonia 512-479 BC brought benefits. Xerxes gave Alexander I control over western and upper Macedonia; and after Xerxes' flight Alexander gained territory west of the Strymon. His claim to be a Temenid, descended from Heracles and related to the royal house of Argos, was recognized at Olympia; he issued a fine royal coinage and profited from the export of ship-timber."

Map
Hey. This is a first draft. I will refine it. I will also do another, larger map, just depicting Macedonia and its comprising regions, eg Pelagonia, Mygonia, etc



http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Macedonia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.140.226.93 (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, will do soon. Hxseek (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Peninsulas
Hi, Ilidio. I'm afraid that since I last posted on the List of Peninsulas talk page I haven't found any further useful geographically authoritative references for defining a peninsula. I'm beginning to suspect that this is not something that geographers have ever felt necessary to define more precisely than the loose common usages of the term, and it just isn't as important as the much-debated definition of "planet" turned out to be. Unfortunately for those of us who prefer everything to be cut and dried, both human language usage and the natural world tend not to fall into neatly distinguishable categories. My feeling is that the presence of an isthmus is not necessary since, though many peninsulas do have one, many other geographical formations commonly called peninsulas do not. However, others evidently hold another view and I currently see no means of resolving the differing opinions. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)