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Seabees In World War II, CWS Flame throwers
Good day to you.

You offer to help so I will take you up on that, thank you.

The Seabees in World War II article appears to have been created as a college project. It also appears that that orginal work was entirely cut and paste copy. I posted that on the article talkpage. I did a quick paraphrase of each paragraph and cited what I thought the source was. Two sections are basically my effort, the CWS and Seabee legacy. For some reason the CWS section became the focus of another editor. After I would added content they would re-edit it. Over and over. In looking at what they had done something stood. They had changed RADM(Rear-Admiral) to Admiral several times. I left a message that some of their edits could be taken as vandalism as a RADM is a O-7 pay grade and an ADM is an O-10 and they are not inter-changable.

OMG- that was a mistake. They have tagged footnote 24 as {unverifiable} when it states exactly what it is referenced for (see date 24 October 1944). I had written that the CWS Flame Tank Group was "top secret'. The other editor completely removed that saying it was not true as there was nothing in the source saying "top secret. Footnote 29: count down 21 lines and you will read "top secret".

This same editor stated that my first effort at paraphrasing was not good enough. There is another OMG. I went back and put more effort into that and that was a mistake too.

My opinion is that if their edits were not vandalism to start they certainly are now. This is not what I am on Wikipedia for and I have no clue how to deal with it. I do not want to waste my time correcting what this editor has done if they are going to do it again. Your help when you have time, please. Thank you.Mcb133aco (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If ref 24 is "Issue 20, 16 May 1944, Seabee News Service, Budocks, p. 1", the reason why they tagged it as unverifiable might be because it's lacking a URL to an online-hosted version. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time and explanation. Have to admit  it is beyond me. The ref is posted online and is a U.S. Gov publication.  That flies in my book.  Thank you again.Mcb133aco (talk) 14:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 14:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you're right and that it's a legitimate source, but reference citations on Wikipedia have to be verifiable. If you can find a website online that has that page of the book on it and post that link onto the refence on the article, then that should suffice. Best, Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Rear Admiral (lower half)
The name correction you made for the rank is not correct. The uniformed services has always had lower half in parenthesizes. It has never been a comma. The rank has also been established by statute. See and. Neovu79 (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This seems like a waste. What do they do with the upper half? EEng 02:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll answer this question on your talk page, as it is quite long. :) Neovu79 (talk) 03:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected, feel free to revert it if you haven't already. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 08:36, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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DYK for Flags at the White House
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Infobox templates - Disruptive editing
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You copied code from a sub template Template:Infobox country/imagetable of Template:Infobox country and applied that to the following infoboxes:
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 * Template:Infobox fire department edit
 * Template:Infobox national military edit

Any changes to this sub template would be only be tested for that particular Infobox in its sandbox. If the code was changed this might affect other infoboxes using it. Infoboxes should have their own specific code written for that particular infobox. Code from other sub templates shouldn't be copied.

The code you included was written for two flag image_flag image_flag2 parameters and a coat of arms/symbol parameter image_coat image_symbol. Infobox law enforcement agency already had a parameter for a flag flag and all images had a default image size. Infobox fire department already had a parameter for a flag flag.

Infobox national military uses Template:WPMILHIST Infobox style with has specific styles for images. The template already has a parameter that is used for flags image and a second image parameter image2 which can be used if there are two images such as a symbol or logo. An shown by your edit to Namibian Defence Force in which you changed the flag from image to image_flag and your edit to Czechoslovak Army in which you change the logo image from image to image_symbol.

You didn't attempt to seek consensus on talk pages before making changes with a rationale for the changes. outlined what you should have attempted when you requested an edit to Template:Infobox organization. The edit summaries don't contain a brief rationale for editing the template code. You didn't update the documentation subpages of the infoboxes WP:TDOC for the changes.

I commented on the Infobox law enforcement agency talk page 3 months ago about your edits to that template regarding issues with using a subtemplate from another infobox it was then Template:Infobox settlement/columns. I didn't ping you properly so you may not have read the talk page comment. FOX 52 roll backed your edit and advised you on your talk page. I advised you that FOX 52 had also roll backed at the same time a similar edit to infobox fire department.--Melbguy05 (talk) 22:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Revert edits to infoboxes following editing of infobox templates
Please revert all your editing to infobox image parameters in articles following changing the infobox templates (as discussed here on your talk page) and revert the infobox template code. You had an opportunity to revert the Mongolian Armed Forces following reading the talk page.--Melbguy05 (talk) 10:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why? What's the problem with it? If those edits bother you that much you can go and revert them yourself (I won't object), it's not like those articles are locked or protected. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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Template space force help
Currently displays the U.S. flag. I’ve got no clue on how to change it to the SF flag itself. Would happen to know how to make it work? Garuda28 (talk) 12:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You have to add this:  into: Template:Country data United States. Now I'd go ahead do it myself, but unfortunately the template is locked so I can't. An administrator has to do it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:22, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Got it - I’ll post a request on the talk page. Thank you! Garuda28 (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Complaint about your edits: please respond at WP:AN
Hello Illegitimate Barrister. Please see WP:Administrators' noticeboard. If you want to continue to edit templates, you should be willing to respond when problems are pointed out to you. Are you planning to ignore the whole thing? I'm looking forward to your reply at WP:AN. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't know what there is to say or do; it seems the "disruptive" edits in question were reverted. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Please don't ignore this
Illegitimate Barrister, we need to know if your behavior is going to continue. Administrators have the ability to issue partial blocks, so that for example, if you won't accept any feedback about your template editing, you can be *blocked* from editing templates. If you want to avoid that outcome, you should consider responding seriously. For details, see all the posts you have removed from this page since early May. EdJohnston (talk) 18:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your candor; I haven't done any of the "disruptive" edits since the objections were raised earlier this month, so I think that speaks for itself. Regards, – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

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Infobox Change for the U.S. Coast Guard and it's Predecessor
I was wondering if you would be interested in weighing in and giving an opinion on this Talk:United States Revenue Cutter Service. Neovu79 (talk) 23:24, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't know what I could do to sway it, the consensus there seems fairly clear. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for The NATO Hymn
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Flag copyright question
Hi, do you know how a flag design from 1896 can still be under copyright? See File:Knoxville TN Flag.gif. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 04:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * An 1896 U.S. work is in the public domain; pretty much all 19th century U.S. works are in the public domain due to age. On top of that, the flag's creator died in 1925, so it's in the public domain doubly, due to the age of the work and sufficient post-author death time having passed (80 years in this case). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Went ahead and uploaded it to the Wikimedia Commons (here). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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Iraq?
Was Iraq from 2003-2004 called the Coalition Provisional Authority or the Iraqi Republic after Saddam was removed? ColorfulSmoke (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * My understanding was it was called the "Iraqi Republic" until the 2005 constitution changed the name to "Republic of Iraq". The CPA's founding charter, in "Section 2", states that Iraqi laws in force at the time of its establishment (c. April 16, 2003) remained in force unless otherwise nullified by the CPA, so I take that to mean the name of the country remained unchanged. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 11:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ColorfulSmoke, the Coalition Provisional Authority was the government of the Iraqi Republic (2003–2004), as government of the United States is an article distinct from United States. wbm1058 (talk) 23:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Bank Gothic
Gah, what a mess! Hit rollback by mistake and kept reverting to the wrong version-my apologies. Very sorry about that. I hope it's in the version you intended now. Blythwood (talk) 18:17, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * S'all good brah. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Template:US enlisted ranks
Looks like there needs to be a consensus for this. I would greatly appreciate your input, for or against. :) Neovu79 (talk) 20:11, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Consensus as to what exactly? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a stupid argument over what "color" the Army ranks should be. You don't have to chime in if you don't want to. I was just reaching out to to get a consensus on it. Thanks. Neovu79 (talk) 22:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I see. How about OCP ranks instead? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:34, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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Threatened with a ban for linking Ireland to Ireland (state)
The Canterburry editor did the above to me leaving me messages to that effect. If you take a look at my edit history, I’m not even very active or particularly repeat though I certainly have done that before. Is this not completely outrageous? Is there no longer any decent bunch of editors who push back against this sort of bully boy stuff? I don’t edit as much as I used to, in no small part because of the likes of this. Anyway, it’s incrediible that the ArbCom thingy is being interpreted as a license to insist on all links to the state being to a descriptoin of the state. Needless to say, the end result is that ignorance of what the state’s name actually is will persist. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:08, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * What context were the links? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Here's the context of the link, as you'll note it's actually changing a link to Republic of Ireland to link to Ireland (state), not changing Ireland to Ireland (state). Basically Frenchmalawi keeps altering links that link directly to the article Republic of Ireland to instead link to Ireland (state) which is just a redirect back to Republic of Ireland. This has been a pattern of editing for many years, they've raised discussions about moving the Republic of Ireland article to Ireland (state) and it's been declined on that article's talk page, so these aren't edits made out of ignorance, they're changes based on knowing how the article structure is set up. They've been asked to stop altering direct links to be redirects on several occasions, however Frenchmalawi continues to keep altering direct links to be redirects from their favoured title (which of course just directs back to Republic of Ireland.) I have put forward that this is pure pointy and disruptive editing. Canterbury Tail talk 12:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm with ya. Direct links shouldn't be changed to a redirect. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Armenia/Azerbaijan discretionary sanctions
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Happy Birthday!
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SVG file question
Hi IB, could you look at File:Flag of Mississippi "New Magnolia Flag".svg? There seems to be an issue in the file, as I'm unable to load the image into a specific editor program (Boxy SVG). I am able to load the second version of the file, and I can load it into Inkscape. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 21:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Uploaded a new version. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:02, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll check it out now. BilCat (talk) 22:17, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It still doesn't open in Boxy, it just shows a blank file. I'll just have to use Inkscape for this file. Thanks anyway. BilCat (talk) 22:59, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I was able to do what I needed with Inkscape. Your tweaks were good, so at least that's improved now. Thanks again! BilCat (talk) 23:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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Help please ...
Hello IB...I have for the first time in ages created a new article. I am requesting your assistance in finding a photograph of USRC Pamlico (1907) and somehow with your magic uploading that photograph to the article. You have always managed to do this for me in the past and I haven't a clue as to the mechanics involved. Thanking you for your efforts and there is no time limit involved. I hope you have been well with the COVID thing and all is good. Cheers... Cuprum17 (talk) 18:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Done! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the work on Pamlico, that was quick. I could use some more picture help on USRC Boutwell (1873) if your are of a mind. Cuprum17 (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Also done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Also thanking you again...you are my hero! Cuprum17 (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020
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New York Flag Smiling Sun
You put an image on the "coat of arms of new york" page, without the "smiling sun". I think all suns are supposed to have faces in heraldry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worldwidewebb77 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Flag of Nicaragua (1908-1971)
A post-1971 Nicaraguan flag is anachronistically seen in the list of sovereign states in the 1910s, 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. These seven decades should have this flag File:Flag of Nicaragua (1908–1971).svg

ColorfulSmoke (talk) 10:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've fixed them. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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Nicaragua-flag 1968 Summer Olympics
A post-1971 Nicaraguan flag is shown in Nicaragua at the 1968 Summer Olympics.

In 1968, Nicaragua would've have this flag, File:Flag of Nicaragua (1908–1971).svg

ColorfulSmoke (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

File:Flag of Cuba (1902–1959).svg
Did pre communist Cuba have a bright version of the Cuban flag before 1959. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 21:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think so. Here's a 1952 flag and it uses bright blue. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Flag of Liechtenstein
Please add,

File:Flag of Liechtenstein (1921-1937).svg in list of sovereign states in the 1930s.

and

File:Flag of Liechtenstein (1937-1982).svg in list of sovereign states in the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.

ColorfulSmoke (talk) 08:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 09:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Kristoffer Domeij
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Template data Saint Lucia
Hello! Can you replace the flags of Saint Lucia from 1875 until 1939 and from 1939 until 1967. Saint Lucia had flags for these two variants and not Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a file of the flag available? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Flag of Italy
Please add File:Flag of Italy (1946–2003).svg in list of sovereign states in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 2000s. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 06:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't you do it? The page isn't protected or anything. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:37, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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Happy First Edit Day!
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Flag of Bartlesville, Oklahoma.gif
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021
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July 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Anett Kontaveit, you may be blocked from editing. Klõps (talk) 06:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2021
FU? Please be civil! Everybody knows that Soviet Union did not exist in 1995. Be careful and do not make such edits anymore. This is a case of serious vandalism.Klõps (talk) 06:15, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops, my apologies. I misread '95 as '85; terribly sorry. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021
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Userscript for moving files
I noticed you move files manually without updating the filenames in articles. As updating filenames is a drag I created LuckyRename some time ago, you may want to give it a try. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 11:35, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021
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MfD nomination of TimedText:Guatemala's national anthem, performed by the U.S. Navy Band.ogg.en.srt
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Happy Birthday!
 Wishing Illegitimate Barrister a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:21, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Danke. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Iraqi navy
What edit did you make about it Jesus is king 123 (talk) 03:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Quoi? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021
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Nomination of Seal of the District of Columbia for deletion
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Respectful request about terminology
It was a long time ago and I don't know if you do this anymore, but can you please avoid making the kind of blanket changes of the term British to the term UK you made here on articles about the early 20th century and before please? It's against the typical terminology of the time and is in some ways more confusing in a world where the British empire existed. Thanks, Llewee (talk) 11:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021
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"EE UU" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Template:Navy
Hi. Could you please take a look at the issue raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template? It appears that you did some work on the templates back in February 2018 but the implementation seems incomplete. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:53, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Navy and naval core templates
Since your user page guides that you should not be pinged on talk pages, I would feel so much better if you would chime in again at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Flag Template, and let us know if you agree that the navy and naval core templates should be swapped to fix the problems described there. Thanks in advance for your counsel.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 06:41, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing it to my attention. My template editing privileges were revoked a long time ago so I'm afraid I cannot carry out these edits; they'll have to be done by someone with the authority. I support any decision the consensus produces. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear about your TEs, because you appear to be an excellent template editor. If there is anything I can do just let me know. Thank you for your support, and it looks like everything's copacetic.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 15:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Country data The Canadas
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022
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Proposed deletion of Fire of the Raging Dragon


The article Fire of the Raging Dragon has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Does not meet WP:NBOOK. The last three references are not about the book. The World link is only a mention in a review of another book. The WZZM reference is dead and is from the hometown of the publisher, Zondervan. The Google Books and the FictionDB references only establish that the book exists. I can't find any other substantive reviews online."

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022
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"Navy comm" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022
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Disambiguation link notification for April 7
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Proposed deletion of Sean Nava


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Nomination of Sean Nava for deletion
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Confused
Hey Illegitimate Barrister, can you explain this edit for me? Theres got to be something I'm not getting here. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Just added a picture of a person that is pertinent to the publication. What's not to get. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Where did you source the image? I noticed that it was also you who added it to wikicommons. I've never seen an ID used like that. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Said person's official Twitter. It's all on there on the Commons page. Is a work of the VA so public domain. Anything else. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That doesn't seem kosher, notice that nobody else has ever added VA id's. Can you explain a bit more about why you think that this is ok? Presumably this would not just apply to VA id's but to any government issued id, no? Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. Since U.S. federal government works are public domain. There's nothing sensitive on there, just a name and picture. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

There also is a unique identifying number which would appear to be a no-go per WP:BLPPRIVACY, please maintain this discussion on your talk page until complete. The alternative is having this discussion at ANI. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The number's meaningless; I have one of those ID cards myself and the numbers just refer to the date that the card application was sent out. Not much you can do with it; not like it's a home address or anything. No "privacy concern" there. Anything else? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Either its meaningless or it refers to the date that the card application was sent out, it can't be both. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You're making a mountain out of a molehill; it's meaningless because it refers to the date the card was applied for and thus there's not much you can do with it hence no "privacy concern" there. You're making much ado about nothing. Also this discussion would be better suited for the Commons than Wikipedia. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Its unique personal information, it appears to function as an account number or similar. The BLP concern is here no there, I don't edit on commons. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 01:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not an "account number". There's nothing you can do with it that would compromise anyone's privacy. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That isn't the BLP standard, the BLP standard is just that it be personal information. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 01:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The BLP says "postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information". None of that applies here; you're tilting at windmills. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It also says "Consensus has indicated that the standard for inclusion of personal information of living persons is higher than mere existence of a reliable source that could be verified." and "phone numbers, addresses, account numbers, etc." (it clearly is more than just contact info) I think it best if we err on the side of caution and not use images of identity documents at all for general purposes. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 01:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I mean, if you want to remove the pic go ahead, I won't shed a tear. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry I probably just should have done it and not discussed it with you. I just want to make sure that semi-doxing people with their gov id doesn't become a trend. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 01:12, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, next time just do that. The BLP says to just remove such info without making a big fuss about it to avoid unwanted attention. Either way, in this case it wasn't "doxxing" since there's nothing to dox. The number that you're so concerned about is literally just a date written in YYYYMMDD form. It doesn't access anything like a bank account or something like that. Anyway, I added a picture without the rest of the card if that better suits your fancy. I.B. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Flags of counties of the United States for deletion
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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File:Flag of Cape Town, Western Cape.png listed for discussion
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There was no need to resize a 300×300 cover
Hi. I'm very confused as to why you resized a 300×300 image when a square image with those dimensions is preferred or at the very least "a common choice" (per Template:Infobox album: "square images should therefore not exceed 316px (300px is a common choice for square album covers)") and perfectly within fair use per WP:IMGSIZE. An image in an infobox is set at 300×300, which WP:IMGSIZE states the maximum is "equivalent to 300px at the default preference selection of "220px". It seems only fitting that we should put it at the maximum allowable size. Therefore I don't know why this was replaced by you or why you would replace it. I'm sure you're aware, but the maximum fair use dimension for cover art is 316×316 (which is also what DatBot resizes the images to when they are flagged for being too large). That doesn't mean it should be or needs to be scaled down to 220×220.  Ss  112   17:45, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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National Resistance Front of Afghanistan
Hi, Im ismail karimi, media editor at the office of Spokesperson of national resistance front of Afghanistan.

I noticed that the website provided in our article on English version of Wikipedia is not correct and not official, the official one is www.nationalresistance.org But unfortunately i couldn't modify it as the article is secured.

I have the all sources and can provide any needed official documents that confirms the website provided above.

The reason why i contacted you is because you have edited the article before as seen in its history.

I hope for your cooperation، thanks... Ismail karimi12 (talk) 13:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Done; good luck in your fight sir. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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Sad
Hey. Lil Keke36 (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Howdy ho. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:18, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Flag of Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana.gif
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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USS District of Columbia
Hey, not a big deal, but in the future I would avoid copying someone else's comment without attribution, as you did at Talk:USS District of Columbia (SSBN-826). It also came off as slightly WP:BLUDGEON-y to me when you did it twice to the two opposes, one of which was already involved in the comment thread the text was from. Just my take on it, since title changes can be so contentious already. Thanks for your consideration! Cerebral726 (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC) – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
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Request
Hi, can you please upload the (Re-Recorded) national anthem of Pakistan on Wikipedia, The (Re-Recorded) anthem is recorded with latest equipments released by government of Pakistan on 14 August to celebrate Pakistan platinum (75th) Independence Day.

(Re-Recorded) anthem is released in Audio, Video and different (Instrumental) versions. 103.141.159.231 (talk) 07:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

NOTE: National anthem of Pakistan is first time (Re-Recorded) with latest equipments since its first released in 1950s.
 * That version is copyrighted so it can't be uploaded. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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==Discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyber_Anakin#A_mountain_out_of_molehill? Talk:Cyber Anakin#A mountain out of molehill?] and Talk:Cyber Anakin#Starting_over== You are invited to join the discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyber_Anakin#A_mountain_out_of_molehill? Talk:Cyber Anakin § A mountain out of molehill?] and Talk:Cyber Anakin#Starting_over. 41.180.216.238 (talk) 18:45, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
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 * ty ty! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:44, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Backlog: Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!


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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Seal of Lompoc, California.png


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"Deputy Sheriff I" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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"Disting." listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Disting. and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. An anonymous username, not my real name 19:44, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Illegitimate Barrister!
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 * tyty – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:45, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

File:Angola&#39;s national anthem, performed by the United States Navy Band (March 1996 arrangement).ogg listed for discussion
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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Possible deletion of Vehicle registration plates of the United States for 2021
Hi! I noticed that you frequently edit some of the annual license plate articles. The 2021 article is up for deletion, which means that the entire series of articles might end up being deleted. I'd appreciate it if you would weigh in on the discussion at the following link to "Keep" the article.

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Thanks! Zcarstvnz (talk) 14:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:02, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

– Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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"Grilled beef" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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CS1 error on Brian Reynolds Myers
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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List of presidents of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea
Hello,

I noticed you created this article. I was wondering where you got the translations/information from; I myself have been struggling with how to translate these titles, as info on the KPG in English tends to be sparse. Did you translate them yourself? toobigtokale (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I lifted it from another Wikipedia article. Can't remember, was a while ago. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:15, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * If you're curious it looks like you got it from List of presidents of South Korea. Thanks! toobigtokale (talk) 02:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the one! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:20, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Namdaemun door?
Greetings to you. I'm wondering why you changed the translation of "Namdaemun" from "south great gate" to "south great door." While it is true that 문 can mean door, it can also mean gate. Wouldn't the latter be more appropriate here? Gratefully, Mark Froelich (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 문 means door most of the time. See this Google Image Search for instance, all doors. Even Korean Wikipedia says it means door predominantly. At least if we're talking literally; my edit was for the literal translation rather than figurative. I have gone ahead and added a figurative translation since you brought it up. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs),

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Hi
I saw you rename the image file on my user page on the Thai Wikipedia. So I sent a message to greet you. Noobythailand (talk) 08:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Gee, thanks! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:50, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Heads up
Thought you'd want to be aware of this if you weren't already. Normally I might go bold, but I think this IS the guy. We would benefit from his participation and I thought he and Dr. J might hit it off. Since you're the primary contributor to the page, I thought your eyes would be useful. Lots of uncited stuff (added by an ip in Adams County, PA). Living subjects are becoming a problem again, because Wikipedia is seen as a more reliable provider these days. Subjects have a reasonable expectation of accurate coverage, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 14:50, 30 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Good catch, thx for pointing it out.
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1923
Hi Illegitimate Barrister. You recently made this edit to 1923 adding a footnote named 'Hammer', but the reference isn't defined. Do you know what this might refer to? Leschnei (talk) 13:10, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I copied it from September 1923. Fixed it now. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Leschnei (talk) 22:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * np. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:00, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Fixed now. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:25, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Vanessa Marquez
Hello Illegitimate Barrister, I just wanted to let you know, as the editor who originally added the video of Vanessa Marquez's shooting to her article, that I've raised it for discussion at the external links noticeboard. Your input would be welcome and appreciated. Kurtis (talk) 13:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey IB, I wanted to follow-up from your comment a couple days ago (which I acknowledge that you deleted shortly thereafter). For me, it's not so much that Marquez's personality rights are being violated, but more a question of whether the inclusion of video footage depicting a person's fatal shooting is warranted by the circumstances. It feels like something that should always have some type of discussion preceding it, for no other reason than the fact that it is a sensitive matter. Does that make sense? Just to be clear, none of this is intended as a criticism of your contributions or even the addition of the video. It's just something I wanted to bring up for outside input. Just so you're aware, I've submitted an RfC asking for third opinions from uninvolved Wikipedians. As before, your input is both welcome and appreciated. :) Kurtis (talk) 19:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, no offense taken. My view is, this is an encyclopedia and showing through visual media conveys information better than merely telling through plain text. The same reason we have photographs to illustrate things here, even if copyrighted through fair use. I mean, if you go to the Nanjing Massacre page, the very first photo is a shot of corpses, or The Holocaust page, showing images of mass murders. I don't see anyone saying those pictures should be taken down for being offensive. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I completely understand where you're coming from. Wikipedia is not censored, and we certainly do not shy away from showing visual depictions of violence and suffering when there is encyclopedic value that we can add in doing so. On the other hand, I also think it's important to balance the value of a file's inclusion with sensitivity and care; for instance, we wouldn't include a link to the New Zealand mosque shootings out of respect towards the victims' loved ones. The line can be very difficult to determine, and is often a pretty subjective call, which is why I thought there would be value in bringing it for discussion. If the video (or a link to it) is to be included, it'll have community consensus to back it up. Kurtis (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Understood. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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db-f5 only applies to non-free images where the article in which it was used has been deleted. That is not the case for three images you recently tagged. Furthermore, the assertion is that the images are now PD, and F5 only applies to non-free images. As they are now on Commons, the F8 should be sufficient. -- Whpq (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Roger. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:37, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

PD-MAGov
The PD-MAGov template was deleted here. What is the plan for the the pages that you added this template to today? Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I am currently in the process of transferring those files over to the Wikimedia Commons. I put the template on there because while it may not be a template here, it is a template over on the Wikimedia Commons, so that way, when the file is transferred over to said Wikimedia Commons the template is on there automatically ready to go. It was done to save me extra time and wasted effort because there are a lot of files to transfer over. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Great, can I help with the transfer? Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  22:25, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you're an admin, you can undelete the hidden revisions, as they are preventing me from migrating them using FileImporter. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you give me an example of one? I am an admin here, but not on commons. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  23:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * All the files in this category (Category:Official seals of places in Massachusetts) that have hidden revisions, unhide them. That will allow me to migrate them to the Wikimedia Commons. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:03, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I see, I will work on that. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I will start from the bottom of that category and move up if you want to get started moving. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:09, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive
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Category:Jewish American chefs has been nominated for splitting
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Move requests on wikimedia commons
please move

thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 01:00, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Flag of the NSDAP (1920–1945).svg → File:Flag of the Nazi Party (1920–1945).svg
 * File:Flag of Nazi Party (2 by 3).svg → File:Flag of the Nazi Party (1920–1945, 2-3).svg
 * First one is protected so an admin has to do it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Move request on wikimedia commons
please move File:Flag of South Africa (1928–1994, small flags).svg → File:Flag of South Africa (1928–1982, small flags).svg thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 08:42, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024
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Move requests on wikimedia commons
please move thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 02:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Flag of the Confederate States of America, 1861 - DPLA - d608427544959b2291667980a7088b02.jpg → File:Flag of the Confederate States, 1861 - DPLA - d608427544959b2291667980a7088b02.jpg
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 * File:Flag of the Confederate States of America for the Muscogee (Creek) Nation.svg → File:Flag of the Confederate States for the Muscogee (Creek) Nation.svg
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 * File:Seal of the Confederate States of America on brass medallion LCCN2012646990.tif → File:Seal of the Confederate States on brass medallion LCCN2012646990.tif
 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:02, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024
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Move requests on wikimedia commons
if you have enough time, could you please rename all these files? Thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 10:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

"Now That's What I Call Music! 5 (U.S. series" listed at Redirects for discussion
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PG County Sheriff

 * Thank you, the pleasure's all mine. Much appreciated. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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Happy First Edit Day!

 * Oui, oui. Tres bien. Merci beaucoup, mon ami. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Date Changes without citations
Hi, it appears you're making a large number of changes to important dates on articles relating to living people (e.g. BLP's) without providing sources for those changes. In at least two instances (1, 2, it appears that the change directly contradicted the existing source in the article. Can you please explain where you're sourcing the content for these changes?  ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 05:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The U.S. Department of Defense's website has a person lookup feature where if you put in their name and date of birth it'll tell you their dates of service; you can use that to verify. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have a link to that feature? ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 05:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Here. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I've got some concerns about the suitability of that as a source on BLP articles; given that it's a USG-authorized-access-only database created for verifying eligibility for SCRA protections and the signup for it contains "By clicking the box marked "I Accept," you indicate that you have read and agree to the Terms of Use and that you certify, under penalty of perjury, that you are only using this website for the permissible uses identified in this Agreement." By definition, sourcing dates on Wikipedia is not one of the outlined permissible uses. This does not seem like it satisfies WP:V. Also doesn't seem to satisfy WP:BLPPRIMARY, specifically: ("Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources. Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses. Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies.")  ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 05:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

– Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Move request on wikimedia commons
please move "File:Flag of Portugal sea (1830).svg" to "File:Flag of Portugal sea (1830–1910).svg", thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 14:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Move requests on wikimedia commons
please move


 * File:Flag map of Portuguese Angola (1911–1975).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese Angola (1910–1975).svg
 * File:Flag map of Portuguese Cape Verde (1911–1975).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese Cape Verde (1910–1975).svg
 * File:Flag map of Portuguese Guinea (1911–1974).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese Guinea (1910–1974).svg
 * File:Flag map of Portuguese Mozambique (1911–1975).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese Mozambique (1910–1975).svg
 * File:Flag map of Portuguese São Tomé and Príncipe (1911–1975).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese São Tomé and Príncipe (1910–1975).svg
 * File:Flag map of Portuguese Timor (1911–1975).svg → File:Flag map of Portuguese Timor (1910–1975).svg

thank you.

ColorfulSmoke (talk) 14:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)


 * are you going to rename all of them? ColorfulSmoke (talk) 14:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

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Sources for notable
In this edit, do you believe that these are reliable and verifiable sources to support the connection to Union City? Please see the AfD I started and please let me know if there are better sources available. Alansohn (talk) 16:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm looking at all three sources you added, and none of these appear particularly reliable to me. Facebook is meh at best, but the two alumni / classmate sites are rather poor quality. Do you think they are? Alansohn (talk) 17:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I suppose, it's better than nothing. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024
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Move requests on wikimedia commons
please move


 * File:Coat of arms of Angola (1935–1975 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Angola (1935–1975, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Cape Verde (1935–1975 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Cape Verde (1935–1975, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Macau (1935–1999 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Macau (1935–1999, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Mozambique (1935–1975 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Mozambique (1935–1975, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Portuguese Guinea (1935–1974 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Portuguese Guinea (1935–1974, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Portuguese India (1935–1974 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Portuguese India (1935–1961, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Portuguese India (1951–1974).svg → File:Coat of arms of Portuguese India (1951–1961).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of Portuguese Timor (1935–1975 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of Portuguese Timor (1935–1975, lesser).svg
 * File:Coat of arms of São Tomé and Príncipe (1935–1975 lesser).svg → File:Coat of arms of São Tomé and Príncipe (1935–1975, lesser).svg

thank you. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 19:02, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Flags in List of ongoing armed conflicts
Why were some of the flags removed in the List of ongoing armed conflicts, as far as I can find the use of the flags in the article does not fall under any of the Inappropriate use for flags in MOS:FLAG. Also why were some flags kept but not others? I can't find any consistency with your choices, I get that "Consistency is not paramount" but what makes the use of flags for the Insurgency in Cabo Delgado "unclear, ambiguous or controversial" while the flags for the for the Sahel insurgency are not? Also why did you put Burma for the location of the Myanmar civil war? That is no longer the name of the country. Garmin21 (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I was taking a break. Per your input, all flagicons have since been removed, and the Burmese typo has been fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:29, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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Question about license plate image changes
I've noticed that a lot of license plate images have been recently marked as "public domain due to them being scans of public domain art," including images (such as the 1938 Wisconsin passenger plate image) that were stolen stolen from eBay. My question is, why are they being marked as public domain due to the "simple art" description when they're photographs of physical identification objects? And why are they being marked with templates for mechanical photocopies/scans when most of them are photographs taken with a camera? GDog 0 (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Under Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp., a faithful photographic reproduction of a public domain work is public domain, which these license plate images are. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * What about the license plates themselves do you believe is "public domain?" Like I said, they're physical objects for identification, not artworks, and the case linked involves photographs of old paintings, which I don't understand how that translates over to photographing physical, non-artistic, three-dimensional objects. GDog 0 (talk) 00:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The plates themselves are public domain due to age and/or simplicity of their design (many are just text and simple shapes essentially). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have any previous court rulings to back up the claim that such doctrines apply to physical, non-artistic, three-dimensional objects, or are you just assuming? Maybe if it was a mockup of a plate I drew in GIMP I'd understand it being "too simple to be copyrightable," but these are actual photographs of physical, three-dimensional, non-artistic objects designed for identification, and identification only. I don't understand how court rulings for digitizations of 100 year old paintings applies to photographs of stamped metal license plates. GDog 0 (talk) 23:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Plates are two-dimensional basically, and many are 100 years old. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)