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Speedy deletion declined: Borgen Project
Hello Illia Connell. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Borgen Project, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''it's nearly six years since the last AfD and, compared to the version deleted then, this has some independent refs. Relist at AfD if you like.''' Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 15:12, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. Sorry for the bother Thanks--Illia Connell (talk) 00:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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Templates
Hi, thanks for your help. We have recently changed tfd and it now needs to be substituted. (See the template's documentation for more details.) Please can you review your recent nominations and see if you can fix them? Thanks &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK Illia Connell (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK
Hey Illia, just letting you know that I'll be nominating the Trogloraptor article to Template talk:Did you know so it appears on the main page. Let me know if you want to do it yourself and I can help with the steps. -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  03:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike. I just posted it - I included you as an author/expander Illia Connell (talk) 03:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha. Thanks. I was assuming you've never done this before as your account is still relatively new. I've also uploaded several pictures from the ZooKeys article which might be of use in the nomination. Anyway, cheers, let me know if I can help further. -- O BSIDIAN  †  S OUL  03:42, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine
''If you are interested in medicine-related themes, you may want to check out the Medicine Portal. If you are interested in improving medicine-related articles, you may want to join WikiProject Medicine (sign up here or say hello here).'' WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note Illia Connell (talk) 23:58, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Trogloraptor
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Template:Waterways legend
Don't delete information when editing. If you had a problem figuring out how to do it properly, then ask at the talk page. Useddenim (talk) 14:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

John Struthers
Hi Illia, delighted to see Struthers up for GA. Think I might add another image of the great man. Will keep an eye on proceedings. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. --Illia Connell (talk) 01:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, 'our' Struthers *is* in the Oxford DNB:

Oxford Biography Index entry

John Struthers

Struthers, Sir John  (1823–1899), anatomist and medical reformer

Oxford Biography Index Number 101026680 [what is this?] http://www.oxforddnb.com/index/101026680/John-Struthers      Primary authority: Oxford DNB Since I'm not sure how this ought to be entered in the article, I've put it here - maybe you know the proper method. Also not sure if that qualifies for a "DNB" cat tag but it should! Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:53, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I was looking at the older version of the dictionary that is in Wikisource: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900. I'll reverse my edit. Illia Connell (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

David Pearce.
Please stop removing the proposed deletion text. Look on the discussion page - there was not, in any sense, a consensus on the merits of this page to remain. There was not even a clear discussion on it. So please, if you have objections, send them to me in the discussion page under the new section I have created, and present your facts and reasons against the ones I have proposed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceLion (talk • contribs) 08:15, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome
Per WP:MEDRS we try to use secondary rather than primary sources. Cheers Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine)
 * Thanks for your note Illia Connell (talk) 21:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Onufry Zagłoba
The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

JSTOR citation tool?
It there a bot or something similar for expanding jstor as there is for cite doi? Tijfo098 (talk) 01:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I see there was a Cite jstor but it's currently broken. Tijfo098 (talk) 01:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of. cite doi is also having difficulty with some DOIs that include special characters that are not allowed in template names. There is some discussion in the archives of the talkpage about the details of the bug. Illia Connell (talk) 03:56, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

The Amazing Bone
Hello, just letting you know I removed your prod on the above article as I believe the book is likely notable. Thank you. Rotten regard      Softnow  18:26, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 21:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sucrose gap
Hello! Your submission of Sucrose gap at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 01:21, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Chonga (2nd nomination)
Perhaps you could revisit the AfD--it's probably time to withdraw it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree, but somebody beat me to it; it's already closed Illia Connell (talk) 03:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks anyway--I appreciate it. Drmies (talk) 15:01, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sucrose gap
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 08:23, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Rajshekhar Rajaharia
I've reverted your CSD at Rajshekhar Rajaharia and reinstated the PROD. You have no idea what the previously deleted version of that article looked like and therefore you cannot use the rationale that it replicates the content deleted by a prior discussion at WP:AFD. That discussion, by the way, was well over 12 months ago and I note that you were not a registered user then. Of course, you may just have a phenomenal memory and had been contributing as an IP last year, but it seems an unlikely combination. - Sitush (talk) 02:48, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note.  Illia Connell (talk) 04:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for removing some DEFAULTSORTs from my archives and sandboxes! — Robert Greer (talk) 22:24, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I've been trying to clear out Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts Illia Connell (talk) 00:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

William the Third
Why did you un-reveiew the page?  Tigerboy1966  07:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Metadata shows that I reviewed it. Illia Connell (talk) 07:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect CSD tagging's
Hello IIIia Connell. I would request you to please check the new articles first and then tag them with the appropriate CSD tag. The articles which you tagged with CSD G2 as a "test page" which are Barbara Crane, Block dude and Graeme tallantire were all wrong and had to be re-tagged with correct CSD tags. As incorrect reasoning can confuse the article creator and they won't know the actual reason why their article was deleted that's why one should always make sure to tag a new article which meets the speedy deletion criteria with the appropriate CSD tag. Thank you. ~ TheGeneralUser  (talk)  00:16, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 00:25, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Josh Wood Productions
Josh Wood Productions does not qualify for the speedy deletion criteria under section G4. This article is not a copy of a previously deleted article. This article describes absolutely deferent company than the one previously deleted for the lack of notable references. It is not identical to the previous article which was deleted. It is not unimproved copy of the previously deleted article. For the above mentioned reasons the article is clearly not qualifying to be deleted under criteria for speedy deletion section G4, therefore must be reinstated. Thank you very much for your time reviewing this issue. -Luisa Pisani (talk) 14:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Undelete Article  does not qualify for the speedy deletion criteria under section G4. This article is not a copy of a previously deleted article. This article describes absolutely deferent company than the one previously deleted for the lack of notable references. Article equal to the following articles Silver Pictures, Samuel Goldwyn Films, Imagine Entertainment, Millennium Entertainment, Amblin Entertainment, Crystal Sky Pictures, Skydance Productions, ect... articles mentioned hereby do not even have references, although some of the articles created in October 2010, remains without any warning as it is clearly violates Wikipedia guidelines (better job to do). Josh Wood Productions was not identical to the previous article which was deleted. It was not unimproved copy of the previously deleted article. For the above mentioned reasons the article is clearly not qualifying to be deleted under criteria for speedy deletion section G4, therefore must be reinstated. Thank you very much for your time reviewing this issue. --AllisonID (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. Please see WP:DELREV for instructions to have the deletion reviewed. Illia Connell (talk) 19:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Statistics
Hello Illia Connell. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Statistics, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Does not rely on a page that does not exist. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 11:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 15:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

boat parts cat on Skid_plate
I'm not an expert on categories, but I think this is a boat part? Or was it deleted because it's a red link? --Cornellier (talk) 02:21, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I removed the cat because it was red-linked.  There's a developing discussion here Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 21:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Aha! I restored your edit. Just a suggestion, if you'd put in your bot edit comment "removing red-linked category" it would've been more clear. I'm not a fan of red links, at least not old ones, as per your comments in the discussion. --Cornellier (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Hussain Muhammad Ershad
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 * Thanks for your note. I created this cat while cleaning up some redlinks, and have no opinion on its value.  Illia Connell (talk) 18:16, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Please Stop vandalism of my User Page
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Patriot1010 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 17:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

reminder
Please be careful with WP:HOTCAT, particularly in user space. — Ched : ?  15:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 17:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for fixing the header tabs on the Science portal! I've been waiting for a long time for that to get fixed, but didn't realize it was that simple. --Lasunncty (talk) 18:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help. Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 23:13, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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WikiProject Film template
Hello. I notice you added WikiProject Film to Talk:Billy Corben. I used to do the same, but have been told that the template isn't meant for use on biographies, only on articles about films and film industry/culture. The appropriate wikiproject template to use here, which I've replaced it with, is WPBiography with the parameter 'filmbio-work-group=yes'. Thanks for reading, and happy editing. Robofish (talk) 16:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note and also for fixing my mistake. I'll try to remember in future.  Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 17:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:WPStatistics welcome
fyi,. Frietjes (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Illia Connell (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

It's disruptive to flood a forum like that
I think your mass identical nominations rises to WP:Disruption. Do you really think that the community should consider each individually? Next time, put similar nominations into group nominations. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. The last time I listed incubator articles in a group nomination, I was told to list them separately.  Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 05:50, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. I think that if the pages have identical reasons to delete, then they should be grouped.  If you group dissimilar pages, that is bad.  Let's see what happens.  Maybe you'll provide impetus for the mass deletion of everything old there, and maybe the closing down of AfC.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's the link: Miscellany for deletion/Group of stale articles from Article Incubator Illia Connell (talk) 06:24, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

PNAS
I'm curious about this edit. I've never seen that journal cited with those words spelled out in full except by JSTOR. Usually it is either PNAS, as displayed on the cover, or Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA as abbreviated by the ISO standard. Oddly, the "NAS" does not call itself the "NAS USA", it just presumes that everyone knows the nation to which the N refers. LeadSongDog come howl!  15:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. I was fixing some obvious errors in various journal names, and needed the correct names. I chose either the name of the article about the journal or the name most often listed at WP:JCW.  I may have gotten carried away by fixing some that weren't mistakes.  If so, I apologise for any extra work I caused.  Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

58 MfD nominations
Please see WP:Article Incubator/Greenhouse. Here is a schedule for the remaining 44 articles on your list.


 * Closeout date 2013-06-16
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Cath Bowtell
 * Closeout date 2013-06-17
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Christianity and racism
 * Closeout date 2013-06-18
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Countess of Soissons
 * Closeout date 2013-06-19
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Crocodillin
 * Closeout date 2013-06-20
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Daniel Minoli
 * Closeout date 2013-06-21
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Deadpool (film)
 * Closeout date 2013-06-22
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Eisenstein in Guanajuato
 * Closeout date 2013-06-23
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Elisabeth Ribbans
 * Closeout date 2013-06-24
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Fred Martinez
 * Closeout date 2013-06-25
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Gian Carlo Guicciardi
 * Closeout date 2013-06-26
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Google Technology User Group
 * Closeout date 2013-06-27
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Gyarah Challis Ki Last Metro
 * Closeout date 2013-06-28
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Ivan Aran
 * Closeout date 2013-06-29
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Latino Fan Club
 * Closeout date 2013-06-30
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/List of post-Ellen American television episodes with LGBT themes
 * Closeout date 2013-07-01
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/List of programs and machines in the Matrix series
 * Closeout date 2013-07-02
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Marie Charlotte de la Trémoille
 * Closeout date 2013-07-03
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Meghan Jadhav
 * Closeout date 2013-07-04
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Modulus Financial Engineering
 * Closeout date 2013-07-05
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Munnabhai Ki Aatma Katha
 * Closeout date 2013-07-06
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Pacifica Online
 * Closeout date 2013-07-07
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Panzer 88
 * Closeout date 2013-07-08
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Parting gift
 * Closeout date 2013-07-09
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Pyase Panchi
 * Closeout date 2013-07-10
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Revolte
 * Closeout date 2013-07-11
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Ruth Pineda
 * Closeout date 2013-07-12
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Sacro Codice (2nd nomination)
 * Closeout date 2013-07-13
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Sam Wallace
 * Closeout date 2013-07-14
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Scottish Uruguayan
 * Closeout date 2013-07-15
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Shatavadhani R Ganesh
 * Closeout date 2013-07-16
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Silent Life
 * Closeout date 2013-07-17
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Slut night
 * Closeout date 2013-07-18
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Substation earth fault locator
 * Closeout date 2013-07-19
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Tau Omega Mu Fraternity and its Ladies' Circle
 * Closeout date 2013-07-20
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/The Sunday Times leak and police raid
 * Closeout date 2013-07-21
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Trotskyist League of Canada
 * Closeout date 2013-07-22
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Underground culture
 * Closeout date 2013-07-23
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Valery Fedorenko
 * Closeout date 2013-07-24
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Valery Nikolayevsky
 * Closeout date 2013-07-25
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Vijai S. Shankar
 * Closeout date 2013-07-26
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Wild Pockets
 * Closeout date 2013-07-27
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Yogventures!
 * Closeout date 2013-07-28
 * Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Yosef Babad
 * Unscintillating (talk) 03:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

The article at Article Incubator/Chris Schoeneman was marked as failing inclusion criteria with this diff,. But it could not have been assessed, because the article fails deletion criteria, see WP:Incubator/Greenhouse. Unscintillating (talk) 03:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Template:Article incubator states, status=delete - article has been assessed as not meeting inclusion criteria, and so will be submitted to WP:MfD or for Speedy deletion per Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#General, as appropriate; or the article is an excluded type and should be removed immediately.
 * WP:STALEDRAFT is applicable to user space, and while related, incubator articles are in Wikipedia space and a community process is involved. The decision to take 58 pages to MfD was done in the context of previously taking ten pages at a time to MfD, and a new community discussion at WT:Incubator about how to manage the set of articles in the incubator.  When I asked you about why the pace changed from ten at a time to 58 at a time while new discussion was ongoing, the answer did not explain the change.  The actual guideline at WP:Subpages states, "* Using subpages for permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia."  Please agree to withdraw your 58 nominations.  Thank you, Unscintillating (talk) 03:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Stale drafts at MfD
Hi Illia. I'd like to close out some of the stale drafts you brought up at MfD. Since you've advanced a legitimate reason for deletion, I do think it's proper for those without any sort of objections to be deleted. However, some of these drafts have received work since their MfD nominations. Perhaps the nomination sparked someone into action. If your only objection to those pages was their lack of activity, perhaps a procedural close would be appropriate. I could do that, or I could just note the new activity on the individual discussions. Which would you prefer? --BDD (talk) 17:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I set up a plan to work on each of the 58 articles at a rate of one per day, and at the end of May asked Illia to withdraw the nominations, but received no response,, . Unscintillating (talk) 03:42, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, just let me know if you'd like any WP:REFUNDs. --BDD (talk) 04:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I find your response to be a non-sequitor. Your deletion rationale applies to MfDs "without any sort of objections to be deleted".  I have shown that this is not the case, so this should either stop the deletions or necessitate a revised rationale.


 * Your logic further states that drafts that have received work since the MfD nominations are a reason for a procedural close. In one sense, all of these drafts have received work.


 * In a second sense, these articles did not receive more work because Illia disappeared from Wikipedia, without agreeing (or disagreeing) to withdraw the nominations.


 * The greenhouse design provides an orderly process for reviewing incubated articles, with a trip to MfD as the dated default. Non-random sampling of four articles from the 58 found that 3 of the 4 MfD nominations were unneeded.


 * Now that the community has had a chance to weigh in, we know that the community does not want to comment on mass MfD nominations coming from the incubator.


 * On 14 May 2013, Illia stated, "I have been sending batches of ten articles in the incubator to WP:MFD." Note that this followed a post that I made there on 13 May, so I had reason to believe that the rate of ten at a time would continue during the discussions.  To repeat what I posted here on 31 May 2013, *WP:STALEDRAFT is applicable to user space, and while related, incubator articles are in Wikipedia space and a community process is involved. The decision to take 58 pages to MfD was done in the context of previously taking ten pages at a time to MfD, and a new community discussion at WT:Incubator about how to manage the set of articles in the incubator.  When I asked you about why the pace changed from ten at a time to 58 at a time while new discussion was ongoing, the answer did not explain the change.  The actual guideline at WP:Subpages states, "* Using subpages for permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia."  Please agree to withdraw your 58 nominations.


 * Unscintillating (talk) 13:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Regarding your opinion, "[the MfD nominations have] advanced a legitimate reason for deletion", can you cite any guideline for this, or are you using WP:IAR? Unscintillating (talk) 13:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't believe I've deleted any of these articles that you've worked on. If I did—and it was not a case of assessing consensus among editors—it was in error, and I'll restore those pages. You may be unhappy that more incubator pages are being taken to MfD, but you can't expect a closing administrator to seek out your stated objections. This doesn't seem like something I should need to say, but if you object to the deletion of a page which is the subject of an XfD, say so there. But when an MfD has been listed for almost three weeks without any discussion, a soft delete is a plenty appropriate process.
 * I repeat my willingness to restore any of these pages you want to work on. If that's your concern, I can address it. If your concern is with the procedure, I don't think this is a fruitful way to solve the issue. I can't see where Illia has done anything wrong. The discussion at the Incubator's talk page was a notification of his or her action. It wasn't like an RfC that Illia short-circuited in listing this batch.
 * tldr: If you don't want a page at MfD deleted, say so there. If you want a deleted page restored, let me know. --BDD (talk) 19:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The work that I offered to do was to prepare the articles with the potential of avoiding MfD. The community was forced to consider the articles without any such preparation, and now an admin must close the discussions.  The result of the discussions is that the community doesn't want to participate in this set of deletion discussions.  Weeks of silence is not a rising clamor for deletion.  Unscintillating (talk) 03:39, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Cite isbn/978041516962
Template:Cite isbn/978041516962 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Along with Template:Cite isbn/978075464233, Template:Cite isbn/978019924603, Template:Cite isbn/978185856340, Template:Cite isbn/978019514805, Template:Cite isbn/978019517111, Template:Cite isbn/978041540448 and Template:Cite isbn/978019514806. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:01, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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