User talk:Ilmari Karonen/archives/14

Edittools loader code
There doesn't seem to be any objection to adding the loader code to MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js. The sooner, the better, no? : - ) --MZMcBride (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. It's there now.  I also fixed a minor bug in MediaWiki:Common.js that caused the edit page script not to be loaded on preview.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Email
Hello. I have sent you an email regarding MediaWiki:Titleblacklist; I didn't want to post on any talk page because of WP:BEANS. Thanks, GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 00:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Badtitles
Just quickly, what is the purpose of the badtitles page? Simply south (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As it says at the top, it's a list of existing pages that match the current (at the time the page was last updated) title blacklist, which means ordinary users would not be able to create them if they didn't already exist. The purpose is to see if some of the entries in the blacklist might be matching too many valid titles and thus need to be made more specific.  As a side effect, it also lists a lot of genuinely broken titles that may need fixing.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Moving system messages
I see you moved the system messages Uploadtext/en-ownwork, Uploadtext/en-withpermission and Uploadtext/en-nonfree out of the MediaWiki namespace to allow non-admins to edit them. While I see your point and agree that this could well be a good idea, there's one little problem: redirects from system messages don't work. The only reason the customized upload forms didn't break immediately is that (as I understand it) Wikimedia's servers are set to cache these messages rather aggressively, so that any change is likely to take a few days to have any effect.

Fortunately, there does seem to be a workaround in this case. I've edited the messages you moved to replace the redirects with transclusions; this seems to work on my test wiki at least. We'll see in a few days whether it works here too. (Unfortunately, even this won't work with the corresponding license selector pages, since those aren't actually parsed as normal wikitext.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 09:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, that explains it. I didn't think that redirects would work, but after I moved the pages I checked and it seemed to be working fine, so I left it. Thanks for fixing the pages to use transclusion instead. —Remember the dot (talk) 00:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Upload
User:Remember the dot was bold and unprotected the page. I've cleaned it up the best I can. Please let me know if I missed anything, or screwed up anything.

I found your comments at WP:AN helpful. You helped me refocus on the dangers from others' points of view.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Blacklist
See here -- can you do something about variants of the n-word? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 03:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I was trying to add HAGGR, RGGAH, HRMY, and YMRH based on this morning's vandalism, but I messed up the formatting, and then you modified the list. Could you add these, please? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 15:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Done, just changed a few "+" signs to "*"s instead. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, glad you understand this stuff. :)  NawlinWiki (talk) 16:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

RMS Empress of Ireland (1906) and RMS Empress of Australia (1919)
Ilmari Karonen -- Aha! As you know, this was nothing other than a mildly embarrassing illustration of the phrase "much ado about nothing" ....

When I explored the links at the side of each page -- aeons ago, I guess I just didn't recognize something as fundamental as 2+2=4. Somehow, I simply didn't appreciate what could result from clicking on the "What links here" option.

So ..., I guess this becomes an illustration of another Shakespeare phrase -- the one about "all's well that ends well." Thanks again for the feedback. Please join me in chuckling about my unique ability to misunderstand something which now seems so transparently obvious. --Tenmei (talk) 22:42, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry..
..for the cut-and-paste move of Of The Wand & The Moon, I tried moving it but it didn't work, so I forgot about the moving conventions due to my impatiency. This has not occured before, and will not in the future. Thank you for the note and for cleaning up my mess. Cheers, –Holt T•C 15:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for fixing 'db-reason' :) Exxolon (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Edits you made using Vyznev Xnebara
Hi Ilmari, in a couple of places, you have made edits using VX with the edit summary "Fixing temporary "arxiv.org/PS_cache" and obsolete "arxiv.org/ftp" URLs to link to abstract page with download links instead (with script assistance)." In other words, you changed the links so they linked not straight to the download page of say a pdf. I'm not complaining or anything, but I was just wondering, does Wikipedia have a policy to follow that says what you did was is the way links should be given, or was it purely an aesthetic reason? Just curious s'all. Deamon138 (talk) 20:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't find any definite policy about it, although the scientific citation guidelines do recommend the template, which links to the abstract (via the "arXiv:" interwiki link prefix).  The main reason, in my opinion, to prefer linking to the abstract page is practical: you can get from the abstract to the PDF in one click, but going the other way is difficult.  Also, if you can't or don't want to read PDF for some reason, the ability to choose PostScript, DVI or TeX source instead can be valuable.  I don't seem to be alone in this opinion, either.


 * Mind you, one reason why I do review every edit before saving it is to fix cases where the PDF version should be directly linked, such as when the corresponding abstract link has already been provided as well, or as in the talk page comment I mentioned above. The other reason, of course, is to remove any redundant "(PDF)" notes from the links that I do change to point to the abstract page, in the cases where the script doesn't catch them automatically.  And of course I'm watching out for any actual errors, though I haven't really seen one yet.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 20:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool, there seem to be some good reasons for linking to the abstract so thanks for the info. Curiosity satisfied! Deamon138 (talk) 22:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

About Martha My Dear Piano Intro
I understand your point, just a thought came to mind. At the sites of transcriber companies you can see samples of the scores which are derived from well known composers.

Mine is not the entire song just the intro. I wanted to illustrate musicians of how to properly transcribe the song, given that throughout the years I have not been able to find an accurate transcription commercial or non-commercial.

Anyway, I have already required an immediate deletion. Thanks.


 * You mean that I am going to be granted rollback privileges or that there's a way to sidestep the problem and be able to publish the piano intro of the song?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fefogomez (talk • contribs) 21:00, 23 June 2008


 * I'd assume those transcribed scores by well known composers that you refer to are probably either a) licensed from the composer, or whomever holds the copyright to the composition, or b) of works old enough to have entered the public domain. Anyway, I think it would be best to try and keep this discussion in one place.


 * Oh, and by the way, if you want your own image speedily deleted you don't need to send it to IfD; just tag it with instead.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Help with implementing new Edittools
Hi, I've been working on cleaning up the JS & CSS at the Irish Wiktionary and have just got to the various bits of 'specialchars' code. Since your new implementation looks good I thought I'd try getting it to work over there, but so far I haven't had much success.

There have been a couple of different ways this kind of thing has been added in the past and I'm not sure if this is interfering in any way. At the moment I have edittoolstest.js in my userspace and I'm importing it in my monobook.js. edittoolstest.js is set to load MediaWiki:Edittools.js and I've added a placeholder &lt;div&gt; to MediaWiki:Edittools (copied from MediaWiki:Edittools here).

After fiddling about with this for a while I'm coming to the conclusion that I don't really understand it! I'd be most grateful if you could have a look and see if there's something obvious I'm doing wrong here.

Thanks in advance, ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 07:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * There's a missing comma at the end of the 'Giúdais' line at wikt:ga:MediaWiki:Edittools.js which is giving me a syntax error. I suspect that's probably the problem.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, if you're finding the Arabic/Hebrew lines difficult to edit due to the changing text direction, you may want to copy the rule I added to my monobook.css there. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the 'Giúdais' (Yiddish) line, but it's still not working for me. Thanks again. ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 10:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I think I solved it. For some reason, on wikt:ga the runOnloadHook function is called later than here on the English Wikipedia. (There's a line of JS at the bottom of the page HTML that should run it as soon as all the HTML has loaded, but for some reason that doesn't work on wikt:ga so that it only runs when the actual window.onload event fires.) This means that the Edittools.js script tries to attach EditTools.setup to the onload event after it has already fired, and so ends up doing nothing. The modified versions I set up at wikt:ga:Úsáideoir:Ilmari Karonen/edittoolstest.js and wikt:ga:Úsáideoir:Ilmari Karonen/edittools.js ought to work; I'll still need to make the same changes to the versions here on enwiki, though hopefully they won't really be needed here. Still, it'd be nice to know what's causing the different behavior... —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It would indeed be good to know why this is happening, but I have no idea where to start. Could it be as simple as configuration?  Would I need to get a developer to look at it?


 * With your fixes, it is indeed working now. But I can't get my addition to show up.  It gets an entry in the drop-down (Gaeilge), but doesn't make any buttons.  I've purged and reloaded everything, but I'll try a browser restart shortly. ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 03:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Just a caching issue. This is looking good so I might go live with it soon.  If I do I gather that I should keep the current charinsert methods around for at least 30 days to allow a smooth transition for users not logged in.  Is that right?  ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 05:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

One last thing on Gyromitra esculenta....
I just thought of something but it may not exist. Can you google to see if there are any finnish figures on consumption in finland (either euro amounts of trade or tonnes consumed annually?). It may not exist but just thought would be good to chekc for once....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * According to page 10 in this report by the Finnish Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry, the total amount of false morels sold in Finland was 21.9 tonnes in 2006 and 32.7 tonnes (which is noted as being above average) in 2007. The report also notes the amount of false morels sold in year 2000, 50.1 tonnes, as the largest in recent history.  They don't provide any figures for years 2001–2005, though; presumably these could, if wanted, be found in similar reports from previous years.  (For comparison, the previous page in the same report gives e.g. the amount of champignons cultivated in Finland in 2007 as 1824.7 tonnes, with an additional 3125 tonnes imported.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * While googling, I also came across this "risk report on toxins in food and tapwater" from 2002 by the Finnish Ministry of Food (since replaced by the Finnish Food Safety Authority), which on page 38 gives the annual consumption of false morels as "hundreds of tonnes on a good year". (The discrepancy with the other report above might perhaps be due to the inclusion of self-picked mushrooms in the higher estimate, or might just reflect different statistical methodologies.)  I'm mostly pointing it out, though, because the sources it cites on the following page might be worth taking a look at:
 * Hydrazones in False Morel, Tema Nord 1995:561, The Nordic Council of Ministers
 * Pyysalo, H. and Niskanen, A. (1977) On the Occurence of N-methyl-N-formylhydrazones in fresh and processed false morel, Gyromitra esculenta. J. Agr. Food Chem., 25: 644-647
 * —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Fantastic, thankyou very much. The tonnage is great, I just have to decide on how much to put in to the article and how hard to hunt for more...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Addendum - for some reason I can't open the first one, can you tell me what the title is in finnish and english so I can put it into the inline reference? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The title page says: "MARSI 2007 — Luonnonmarjojen ja -sienien kauppaantulomäärät vuonna 2007" (loose translation: "Amounts of wild berries and mushrooms offered for sale in 2007"), March 2008, Finnish Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry, Helsinki 2008. The introduction further notes that it's part of a series of annual surveys conducted since 1977, and that the actual survey has been carried out by Suomen Gallup Elintarviketieto Oy (formerly the Market Research Organization of the Pellervo Confederation of Finnish Cooperatives, now a part of the Taylor Nelson Sofres group) on commission from the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry.  It seems likely that there might be an ISBN and/or ISSN for the report — most other MAF publications have them — but I couldn't find one on any lists.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, and the previous year's survey gives the amount of false morels sold in 2005 as 19.3 tonnes. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount
Hello Ilmari Karonen, please send your real-name, your wikiname, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to. We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 14:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Roman Catholic dioceses in India
Couple things. First of all, both pages were created indepedently of each other. I created the List not knowing that there was another, more comprehensive list out there. That's why I wanted to get rid of the lesser list, so that only the more comprehensive one was used. You can go ahead and delete the other page, all the content on it has already been incorporated into the other article. Thank you for your assistance. Benkenobi18 (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks for looking into it
SA also tagged few other images i uploaded for same reason, but they all are free.



Lakinekaki (talk) 05:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

TestEditBot
If you look towards the end of the paragraph which you were editing, it contains:, and the bot kept interpreting it as your addition. It isn't supposed to trigger on words that aren't changed in the diff. I'm looking into it, thanks for reporting it. tj9991 (talk | contribs) 14:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Vote on unit symbols for liter
We had earlier been trying to settle on wording to use for a guideline governing the unit symbol to use for the liter. There is now a vote, here at Straw poll on unit symbol usage for the liter to settle on just what it is we hope to accomplish with any guideline’s wording. I hope to see you there. Greg L (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. I'm just leaving for a week-long camping trip, so I don't think I'll be able to participate in the discussion.  I hope you'll be able to work out a solution to this that'll be acceptable to everybody.  Anyway, have a nice week. :)  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 05:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Bp logo.gif)
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Thanks!
for the cleanup help. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Ilmari_Karonen/fixconverttosvg.js issue
Ilmari,

for some reason the above page lists itself in Category:Other images that should be in SVG format. I have no idea why, but I can't see any reason for it to be there. is that something you can fix? -- Ludwigs 2 01:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the report. I think [ this] should fix it.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * that it did. :-)  -- Ludwigs 2  02:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The purpose of MediaWiki:Edittools
Hi, I'm just curious to come by to ask for information. Can you tell me what the page MediaWiki:Edittools.js is for? I have thought that MediaWiki:Edittools is enough to create an insert character feature on MediaWiki. Vinhtantran (talk) 02:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's supposed to be a replacement for (most of) the current Edittools implementation, with some potential advantages (once it's fully implemented) such as lower page load time and a cleaner interface for those with JavaScript disabled. See the discussion starting at MediaWiki talk:Edittools.  I don't think it's officially live yet (though it's really about time I did something about that), but you can try it out for yourself by adding " " to your monobook.js.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 02:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

AilurophobiaBot
Hi, just in regards to your comment on the RFBA - it would be excellent if you could perform a toolserver query or database dump scrape for the categories that include userspace pages. Having some raw data to work with would be great to see how feasible this will be. Thanks, ~ Ame I iorate U T C @ 12:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi again, just to let you know that AilurophobiaBot has been approved, and I would just like to thank you for the impromptu help you gave me. Cheers! ~ Ame I iorate U T C @ 08:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Radix economy
Hello Ilmari Karonen, I know you didn't precisely write this article, but...

An article that you have been involved in editing, Radix economy, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Radix economy. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Melchoir (talk) 18:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Village pump (technical) thread
Hi. Apologies if I'm being dense, but, when you say this should be working now, how/where do I implement it? Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Village pump (technical)


 * Replied at the pump. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 14:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Bagheera kiplingi
Thanks for the inquiry about expanding the article on this most interesting spider. I am not qualified to make any more contributions than I have already on the subject. I became aware of it via an article in the scientific literature digest Science News, citing scholarly work on the subject, and did some Google researching and citation following to expand what I knew. Ohwilleke (talk) 19:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Ref Desk
Re: - if I had wanted to know about such things I would have asked about them, but no, you had to grab the coat-tails of OrangeMarlin's scurrilous accusations and poison the well still further. In future, if you have nothing to add relevant to a question, I suggest you remain silent. I have removed the question because I cannot cope with the unfounded and malicious blackening of my motives by certain of the contributors to it. You, as an admin, should really know better. DuncanHill (talk) 00:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * As I hoped would be clear from the placement of my comment, I was responding to Mboverload, not to you. Thread drift happens, it's a natural part of human conversation.  He seemed skeptical that people would be looking for information about solvent extraction of psychoactive substances on Wikipedia; based on my personal experiences (see e.g. Talk:Agent Lemon and the [ history] of the corresponding page) I expressed my opinion to the contrary.  This was in no way intended to imply that you had asked the question for that purpose (although I'm still unsure about the anon who originally asked it), and indeed I would have thought it obvious from the context (and therefore did not see a need to remark upon) that your motive was simply intellectual curiosity coupled with a wish to arouse discussion about the suitability of such information on Wikipedia.  I'm deeply sorry if you perceived my comment as casting aspersions upon your motives, and would like to assure you that it was by no means intended as such.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Mboverload's comment was a direct response to OrangeMarlin's personal attack, so it appeared to me that you were supporting OM's comment. Whatever, I don't see the point of a science desk where the asking of straightforward chemical questions is now forbidden. DuncanHill (talk) 00:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

nagle's algorithm
Thanks for the help on Nagle's algorithm. Im a new editor so I apologize if I ask redundant questions. I asked for references because I did not see enough on the nagle page..Was I correct in my question or did I just miss something obvious? It has hard to tell if from your pithy response. How did you find the references? Did you just do a google book search with the term?? Is google book search pretty exhaustive? Are we allowed to pull short quotes from them under fair use? THanks for your help and just to let you know I would really enjoy collaborating with you on an article..Cheersaharon42 (talk) 19:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's okay. The article indeed doesn't have many references, and one or two of those books (such as the O'Reilly one) would make good additions.  You did come across a bit as if you were suggesting the subject was something made up in school one day, and I was in a hurry, so I just wanted to provide a link to show that it has indeed been written about in respectable textbooks.  I did indeed just type the name of the article into Google Books — I don't really know how thorough their catalog is, and I suspect it varies depending on the subject, but in this case just knowing that there are some authoritative texts that discuss the subject should be enough.  (Mind you, personally I kind of think that anything that has been the subject of an IETF RFC — yes, even IP over avian carriers — should be notable enough for a Wikipedia article.)  While pulling short quotes from books for scholarly purposes is generally permitted under fair use, I don't think that's really necessary here: it's not hard to describe the subject in one's own words, and indeed we already have a reasonable, if short, article that does just that.  I'll see if I can find the time to work on the sourcing for Nagle's algorithm a bit, but I do have a bunch of stuff I really need to finish outside Wikipedia, and I'm also still working on fleshing out our article on Tanja Karpela (which used to be an unsourced BLP) a little bit.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Ill be happy to work on referencing this article a little by little but I am still very new to the ref templates. Ill put them first on the discussion page and then maybe you can help me polish them up when ever you have the time, No rush to publish. Right? aharon42 (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit conflicts
I don't think you overdid the bold text at all! DuncanHill (talk) 16:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The db template is still there; now, I could tag it for speedy deletion under G7...
As I was writing this, I realised that using braces in headings is probably not a very good idea. :-) Waltham, The Duke of 23:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

castor plant image
so it seems you have to be sure about the rotation of the image before you upload it. thank you for your help! Philadams (talk) 02:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Customizing monobook.js
Hi Ilmari-- For some reason, I just now saw your post at MediaWiki_talk:Edittools. Thanks! But I think I might need more hand-holding if you don't mind. Since I use MySkin in my preferences, I created myskin.js with this text:
 * window.charinsertCustom = {

"Insert": "{\{SharedIP}}", // The backslash is there to keep your monobook.js from being categorized as a shared IP
 * };

It adds the tool to my edit sessions, but using it just sticks the template tag in front of the text I highlight. What I would like to be able to do is highlight my target text and have the tool wrap its code around the text this way:

Am I making sense? Is this possible? Sorry to bug you with this, but I'm a little out of my league here. Thanks in advance if you can point me in the right direction. -Eric talk 17:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Basically, what you want is:


 * The plus sign is where any text you highlight goes. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks--you are truly one of the finest Finns I know! Now, to push the issue: What have I done/thought wrong in trying to add a second tool for SharedIPEDU? This doesn't work; only the second tool is generated:
 * -Eric talk 19:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Put them both in the same string, separated by a space:


 * —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Thanks a million, Ilmari. I guess I should add this info to the above Edittools discussion, but I would think it could be made part of the guidance somewhere, if there's an appropriate place. -Eric talk 20:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Ilmari- I'm hoping I can bother you with another customization question! I would like to add a couple shortcuts to my Commons editing interface that would make it easier to create interwiki links. I was assuming it could be done in a way similar to what you helped me with above, but I don't see an Insert option in the edittools drop-down on Commons. I'm wondering if I can create a custom.js page on Commons that would allow me to simply type a string, select that text, then hit a link that would wrap it with the interwiki link. For example, if I want to make a link in a Commons file description to the en.wp article on Chinon, I would type that text, then hit a link or button that would result in this: |undefinedChinon|undefined (where the red text is what I type and the green is what the tool adds). Am I making sense? Can this be done, or is there maybe a better way? Thanks in advance for any tips, and tell me if you think I should move this to my Commons talkpage or elsewhere. Kiitos, Eric talk 20:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

A simple thank you
Just wanted to thank you for the wikitable help over at Köchel catalogue. I knew there had to be a way to do this stuff, I just didn't know how (and got caught up in a sucky day). Where can I learn more about this kind of thing? It looks as though you have a good handle on script writting and wiki-markup, where can I learn this stuff? Padillah (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't know where to begin
As my IP and IT skills leave much to be desired. How on earth would I discover what school? If you aren't keen on providing a primer here, please feel free to email me offline. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  15:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It can be pretty tricky, and I don't know any reliable way to do it. Looking at the WHOIS and RDNS listings can sometimes help: if, say, the IP is registered to the Bupkiss School District and resolves to "random.bupkiss.k12.mn.us", and there's a "John F. Random High School" in Bupkiss, Minnesota, you can make a pretty good guess.  Also, schoolkids often vandalize articles about their own school or home town, so checking the contributions can give clues.  Finally, if you can find a technical contact for the school district (or whoever is listed as the owner of the range in WHOIS), you could just try e-mailing them and asking.


 * In all cases, a good place to start is often the school district website. Sometimes one is listed directly in WHOIS, or you might be able to Google for the name of the district.  Another trick that sometimes works is truncating the name returned by RDNS and prepending "www.": e.g with the example above, you might try http://www.bupkiss.k12.mn.us/ and see if anything comes up.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Nasty javascript bug
Hi, and help! It seems that the extension I recently added to CollapsibleTables breaks the script in AOL 9.0, while being fine in FF 2.0, IE7, Safari, etc. Can you shed any light on what's going on? Happy‑melon 10:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not easily, since I don't have access to the AOL browser. Someone who does have access to it and can reproduce the bug ought to try turning on the browser's JavaScript debugging facility (I'm sure it has one) and seeing what the actual error is.  In terms of defensive programming, the only obvious change I can see would be to introduce   with the   keyword so that it's locally scoped — I doubt that's the problem, but I guess it's just barely possible that the code might be clobbering some global variable of the same name.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

IFD stuff
Hello. Looks like you're a regular there? Check out User:Rootology/Images which is the product of BJ's query for me. It's probably an insane, and like you said thankless job, but between working on articles/FACs I want to try to clean it up. I figured I'd just go through them in batches of ten, like at User:Rootology/Images/1. Either it'll work back into an article, move to Commons, or end up at IFD or the rare CSD, as it's ended up so far. I'd guess it's going a little less than 50% to IFD, maybe. Maybe 40%, so far, give or take, with a handful of CSDs. The rest have been a split of commons moves and reuse, or just leaving it as is in a couple. In case I don't see the IFD replies on an interesting (or important!) one on the IFD page could you let me know on my talk to look again? rootology ( C )( T ) 05:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not actually an IfD regular — I just happened to spot your post at WP:BOTREQ and decided to check if there might be anything salvageable. I guess the way you're doing it is pretty much the way it needs to be done.  It might be worth trying to find more users interested in the reviewing process, since nobody's going to check 50,000 images on their own — even if you could do one image a minute for 8 hours each day, 7 days a week, that'd still take more than three months.  IfD often tends to be a "write-only" process anyway, so extra pairs of eyes would be useful.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 05:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have no illusions about getting them all myself. It will take years, and then a 2011 DB query will start it all over again. I'd love to get more people on it... maybe get someone on each end of a list and meet in the middle or something. But it's pretty tedious work. I'd begun thinking about how to get people on board something like that, but it's not really engaging enough. rootology ( C )( T ) 05:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lyria logo.gif)
Thanks for uploading Image:Lyria logo.gif. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 05:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for your input here regarding my question on aircraft callsigns. Much appreciated. 70.122.36.93 (talk) 05:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)