User talk:Ilmari Karonen/archives/2

User:166.66.16.116
This user is editing again, within the block you placed, as User:BlueTemplar13, & I can't figure out where to aptly put a notice of this user's behavior, as detailed here. This user is also User:166.66.16.103.
 * Grye 10:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Line spacing in the matrix
I need to reduce the spacing between each line of bulleted items above. How can this be done? --Go for it! 22:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Use HTML markup for the list and give the &lt;li> elements appropriate style attributes. Or (get someone to) edit MediaWiki:Common.css.  But I have to ask, why?  The box looks just fine to me.  Whitespace is an important part of stylish and legible design, you know, not some horrible waste of paper that needs to be abolished at all cost.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Which style attributes will work for this? Will you show me in the above code? --Go for it! 08:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, "margin: -0.25em 0;" seems to work fairly well. See above.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Proxy:
User:68.51.147.199. Same linkspam to John Lott, Help Desk, and Mirrors and forks/Jkl.
 * Blocked, thanks. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:26, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

TIME
Hi Ilmari, I have added some alternate wording to the template for usage in non-TIME articles. I think there is a valid fair use argument in many cases, and the template needs to be tightened up. I think we agree on that. Any thoughts on the alternate wording? Hopefully we can arrive at something workable. -- Cactus.man  &#9997;  14:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
thank you very much for fixing some of them up for me. XYaAsehShalomX 17:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC) :)

Ditto w/ that.05:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes II: The Sequel
Thanks for fixing up the userboxes on my userboxes page. Although I'm wondering why the userboxes themselves were deleted by Wikipedia. -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  21:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes 3: The Return
Thanks for fixing up my Babel box. Very much appreciated. --Closedmouth 01:01, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

ummm...
Is there a particualr reason you felt the need to reformat my userpage? I was under the impression that was sort of frowned upon in the wikiverse. Dlayiga 01:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * You had a deleted template (Template:User cannabis) in your Babel box. I (my script, actually) replaced it with code that produces an equivalent result without using the template.  To do this, it had to expand your Babel box as well, since there's no other way to replace an entry within a Babel-n box with a non-template version.  If you don't like the change, feel free to revert it.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * oh. ok. sorry. I didn't understand exactly waht changes you made. which userbox got deleted? Dlayiga 02:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * this link should help illustrate what was changed. The 'cannabis' one was changed. ;) -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  03:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Userbox
Thanks for fixing up my userbox with the javascript thingie. --Lewk_of_Serthic contrib talk 03:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
For fixing up mu userpage box :) Mike Beckham 05:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for helping me with my user boxes cheers! Empty2005 06:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Leave my home page alone!
For some reason you screwed around with my home page and marked it as deleted. PLease don't do this again. -Paul 07:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Your home page wasn't marked as deleted: the atheist userbox included on it was. I see Ambuj.saxena has removed it now.  I would've fixed it myself, but it wasn't listed here as requiring fixing.  This is what you page looked like before I "screwed around" with it.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 12:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, OK, I forgive you. Thanks for the explanation.  -Paul 20:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
...for fixing my page. Ambuj 11:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank You so much!
Thanks for fixing the userboxes on my page! (What happened to the user: troops userbox?)

I second that! Blahm 18:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

nice userbox script
Hey there, nice job on the UserBox script, i was about to clean up the deleted userbox manually then i noticed it was fixed already. How often does it run? I have another userbox that was deleted and I was wondering when it will be fixed by the script. thanks!Spazm 16:30, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The script runs whenever someone gets around to it; it's not a bot, just a way to fix (some) deleted userboxes on a page with a single click. You can add it to your monobook.js and run it yourself if you like.  I'll add the "nofcc" box to the list of deleted userboxes at User:Pathoschild/Projects/Userboxes.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Another thanks for userboxes
Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 17:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Why were userboxes deleted in the first place?
I must say I am sort of confused as to what is going on with the userboxes? Why are some of them being deleted and others remaining? Why is Wikipedia participating in this hideous form of censorship? Can you give me a link to the discussion on all of this? I don't understand why placing a userbox in *MY* PERSONAL userpage about being a "Democrat" would be considered worthy of deletion. I appreciate you changing it to Java, but I am really shocked and confused about why this had to occur in the first place. Danflave 18:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That's what I'd like to know, but when I create a talk page on some of the deleted userboxes, I keep getting the runaround and never a straight answer. Five userboxes on my page were deleted and replaced with html. -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  20:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really the person to answer that question, since to do so I would have to speak for the actions of others. I don't delete userboxes, nor did I start the project to substitute the ones that have been deleted; I have merely helped with what I see as a useful task.

Anyway, personally I don't see any reason a template that says "This user is a democrat" shouldn't exist. Not that see any particular reason it should exist, either, since one can just as well write the same thing on one's user page without a template. In fact, that's more or less what substituting the boxes accomplishes, in the end. I'd like to hope that doing so can be an acceptable compromise to both those who want to get rid of userbox templates and those who still want to keep the boxes on their user pages. And even if not, at least it's nice to know I'm doing something useful by fixing pages that got broken during all this pushing and pulling. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed, I don't subscribe to the idea of Wikipedia censorship of removing userboxes on a whim. I appreciate your help on my userpages. -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  23:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Here, have a WikiCookie. -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  23:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)




 * Yes I am trying to understand this too. But like the others, I can't find the deleted userboxes to know why they were deleted.  Is there any place this is discussed in a non-computer specialist or non-jargon language?  I gather now you are basically writing code for individual user pages rather than going through a template, but are you individually going to every page and pasting in the code by hand (so to speak) on each user's page?  Seems like a lot of work.  Why has this become such an issue, and where can I go to find why people object to political userboxes?  I know there is a whole debate about POV on userpages which may be sparking this action, is that what this is about?  I'm of the belief that if you know an author's POV you can filter for that when you read something he or she writes, and even with a strong POV someone is still capable of writing in a relatively NPOV way.  But in short, thank you, but why are you going through all this work?  Bruxism 03:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * He believes (like I do) that userboxes should be restored (even the deleted and 'censored' ones). Yes, he goes through people's userpages and replaces the code of deleted userboxes, and no, not by hand (he's aided by Javascript). Take a little sidetrip over to here, which is a template showing you where the whole debate is regarding deleted userboxes. I'm of the opinion none should be deleted. -  nathanrdotcom   (Talk • Contribs)  03:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

user box
If I wanted you to fix my deleted user boxes, i'd have asked you. I'm keeping them up as a statement regarding this deletion nonsense. Don't mess with them again, please. Coolgamer 20:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I appreciated when he fixed mine. Oh, well, whatever. OneGyT /T|C 17:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)