User talk:Ilya Shrayber

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Shanghai China printable map level 12.svg


A tag has been placed on File:Shanghai China printable map level 12.svg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the file appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted content borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 12:52, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest
Hello, Ilya Shrayber. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. Ebonelm (talk)

November 2016
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Linguist If you reply to me here, please add    to the start of your message 16:38, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Copyright issues
I have looked at the Vector Maps site, which you appear to be using to produce your maps. Although the site is titled "Free Maps" it also claims copyright (bottom left of page, small print). Thid means that unless you can demonstrate that you personally hold the copyright, or have written permission from the copyright holder addressed to you personally to do so, you cannot download from that site into Wikipedia.

Also, I see in your vandalism complaint that you use the pronoun "we". Please note that Wikipedia accounts are to be used by one person only, and multiple access to accounts is absolutely forbidden. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 16:56, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Anthony, thank you very much for your time, please look at this ticket Ticket#2016111010015085 first, we also have communicated with Wikimedia Permissions center (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org) and sent them all the authorization needed from the official mail published on our website (vectormapper@gmail.com): http://vectormap.info/contacts/. When I say "we" - it means "our team of carographers", VectorMap.Info and yes, my acc is used by me only.

Sincerely yours, Ilya Shrayber, VectorMap.info Team. to reply to me 05:58, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Even if you hold the copyright to the maps and you have released them under a Creative Commons license, you are not allowed to advertise your website on articles. We also have maps for all those articles already, and to be honest with you, a lot of your maps are missing a lot of data around the edges (and in the middle, for some reason) so they're not totally suitable. Finally, if you've exported the data from OpenStreetMap (which you seem to have done), I'm not sure that the project's license (the ODbL) allows you to sell the maps commercially, and you may need to provide attribution to them on Wikimedia Commons. —Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

Sorry, "even if you hold the copyright"?? We are not advertising, but yes - the people may know, what is the source, and who are the authors. One question, where is YOUR maps, and why this high-quality maps are still not there? So put our maps back and let the people use them and enjoy. When you change (or delete) something, you should always offer something of a better quality. We are all here for improving Wikipedia, right? to reply to me 16:42, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd think most of us would rather have maps without holes in the middle, thanks. Linking to your company's website would be seen as endorsing your company, which is basically advertising. There is no particular need to have a map containing road data in the infobox, and the plain location maps will at some point be supplanted by an interactive map which is currently in the works anyway. Incidentally, I have also emailed the OpenStreetMap Foundation to inform them that you appear to be selling their open-licensed map data without permission or attribution. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

The most important is the need of people, and not what we are thinking about. And yes, there are A LOT of people who need this maps. (just Google, it seems you have a lot of free time, when we prefer dedicating it to another things...). And please let me know, what will be the answer of OpenStreetMap. to reply to me 12:13, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
 * What are you on about? Are you going to ignore that many of your maps are unusable in articles because either the SVG view window is in the wrong place or there are obvious holes in the data? An OSMF member has responded to me, and you should have received an email from them. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

Hello, recently talked to OpenStreetMap guys, and yes, we are waiting for your apologies. And don`t delete our maps anymore.
 * Your maps aren't adding any value to Wikipedia articles, please stop adding them. You really don't deserve any apologies here, if someone would need a detailed map we have Wikimapia which provides both detailed standard maps and satellite maps.2601:601:1400:C4F5:1439:4274:6750:EC6D (talk) 12:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Why your maps are being deleted

 * Hello,
 * As Jc8035 already told you, you can't have your maps on the website be tagged "All rights forever" and then upload the same maps on Wikimedia. That's an absolute no. What you need to do is figure out the appropriate licensing on your site, and make sure it is a free license that Wikimedia can use, like CC-by-SA. Same for the maps themselves. If your company's logo and copyright disclaimers are there on the maps, I dont think it is usable on Wikimedia projects.
 * Also, once you upload your maps, it depends on each article whether your maps are better than already existing maps in the article. That you will have to figure out only AFTER your licensing for the maps is sorted, so I suggest you dont add any maps to any articles until then.
 * Soni (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Ok, no problem, we will solve this.

Your maps
It might be better for you to put the maps in the Geography section of articles instead of the infobox (e.g. Adelaide's "Urban layout" section), because the infobox already has a map in it and it looks a little weird there. It's also not really necessary to state that your maps are printable and editable, because that is the case for pretty much any image on Commons; maybe try captioning them "Street map of $city" instead. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 07:05, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Jc86035, thanx for the advice! You are right, let me change the map location, one moment, and yes I will change the caption text also, thanx) Ilya Shrayber (talk) 12:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC) to reply to me 13:59, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. There are also several other issues: your maps only render city and village names (there are many other types, such as suburbs and towns), link roads and metro lines aren't displayed, the SVG view windows aren't aligned with the edge of the background, and your river rendering is a little weird (lines down the middle displayed, casings of connected river objects split the rivers). You should also update your maps a little more frequently, since OSM changes a lot and your data seems to be from 2014. Hope you can improve the quality of your maps, done better they would be good, useful additions to many articles. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;