User talk:ImageBacklogBot

Image:Lego Mindstorms NXT Robot.jpg
Image:Lego Mindstorms NXT Robot.jpg has a CC License. It was tagged here.  Joe   I  07:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Complaint
ImageBacklogBot, you removed and replaced some images in my userpage (about the fair use stuff) without warning me. You were vandalizing my page. Please stop before I tell someone that you are a vandal. I am the only one allowed to edit my own userpage. You know that. I never want to see my userpage vandalized ever again, or I will tell someone at the help desk. I'm onto you.Kitty53 (talk) 01:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you stop deleting images from my user page without request. Palmiped (talk) 14:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:Danish parliamentary election, 2007
You removed link to Image:Nyalliance.jpg even though it already has a fair use rationale for this particular template. Seems to be a mistake. I have reverted the bot edit. User: (talk • contribs • count) 09:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Stop using example.jpg!
It is a very bad idea to replace those images with example.jpg. Pages containing example.jpg are usually pages with editing experiments, done by newbies clicking on the editing toolbar randomly (or accidentally), and thus should get checked manually if they need cleanup or simply reverting. Now there are again 100+ pages with that image thanks to you. There are two better images to be used - either example.png, or even much better the Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. Please run your bot again on those pages you already touched, I don't want to change those example.jpg by hand! andy (talk) 10:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * How is Example.png any better than example.jpg? I've changed the bot to use Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 19:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If I could please make a suggestion, that rather than add an image that ends up being displayed in mainspace, and looks unprofessional, you use an invisible image, Image:Pix.gif? I suggested this officially on the Bot Requests page, where I thought it was appropriate, but I guess you did not see it. I did not wish to bother you excessively, as I realize how hard you most likely work on coding issues, and it seemed to me better to request it through the BAG pages. The new image does help somewhat, in that Image:Example.jpg is used quite often to track test edits and vandalism, but unfortunately, it still brings up the same issues, featured portals, lists, templates, infoboxes, and other items are still displaying an image that is not very professional. Simply changing to the invisible gif image will solve this issue, and yet not remove the captions from some of these portals, templates, and other pages that are transcluded. Would you be amenable to changing the bot's regex code to this, instead of the current image? Thanks for reading, Ariel  ♥  Gold  11:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be on templates only that the bot would use pix.gif, correct? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 11:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I would suggest using it anywhere that can possibly be used on mainspace for portal, any template, infobox, or WP space, if you check the links to Example.jpg, I think you can understand the scope of the issue, a great many of the pages are subpages of portals, or subpages of featured content, features pictures, etc., and those are where the issues arise. If you wish to take the time to code it so that userspace and/or talk space have the copyright image, I don't see a problem with doing that, but I think that just using the pix.gif for everything would be easier, produce the same result (the bot's edit summary fully explains why the image is being removed/replaced) and not interfere with transcluded pages. I've actually given this a great deal of thought, as I'm one of those editors who used to spend the time going through the links to Example.jpg, and removing test edits and vandalism. I understand the bot's function and its methods, but unfortunately, now there are literally over 1000+ pages with Example.jpg on them, and I really cannot see how it can get cleaned up (unless you or someone else would be willing to code a short-term bot function to remove all those links manually to fix the issue, even from userspace, lol). I spoke with Cobi, SQL, and Dreamafter, and they all agree that using an invisible image for the bot's function would allow the least disruption, still maintain the thumbnail captions, but also give an obvious indicator that the image was removed. Ariel  ♥  Gold  11:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Portals and WP space cannot be used in mainspace, templates are the only ones that make sense. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 19:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Additionally, your 'caption' argument makes no sense. Where are there templates which show an image with a caption? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 19:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Many of the single portal pages, featured article pages, etc. See here, here, here, here, etc., for examples. These subpages are transcluded onto the main portal pages in rotation, and thus, when they are rotated through, appear unprofessional when they have Example.jpg, or the other image on them. The issue is not that the fair use images should not be removed, they absolutely should, but that there are also other areas that are visited by readers, (i.e. Portals, Featured Article subpages, etc.,) and should present a professional appearance, just as the mainspace areas should. I'm sorry that my wording was poor, as I did not mean that portals and featured pages are mainspace, I mean that they should present themselves as the mainspace does, professionally in appearance. Ariel  ♥  Gold  12:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi again! :D I notice you marked this as fixed, but the bot is still using the alternate image on portal and featured subpages, instead of Pix.gif. Would it be possible to get the bot to either comment out the image completely, or use the invisible pixel image? It would make the portals and featured pages look much better when pages are rotated, without requiring maintenance. Thanks! Ariel ♥  Gold  00:30, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Ariel  ♥  Gold  00:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like it is bugged a bit, it is still trying to insert NonFreeImageRemoved.svg, instead of Pix.gif, but now adding two "Image:" tags, resulting in this:      is there a way to just get it to comment out the entire image line or to fix it so it just replaces all images with pix.gif? Sorry to keep bringing you work, lol. I hope that's easy to fix!  Ariel  ♥  Gold  20:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it also does not seem to be using the invisible image on the templates that are transcluded into mainspace articles,, , , etc. :( Ariel  ♥  Gold  20:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Bot problem
The bot's messing up discussions of potentially non-free images such as in this edit. Please have the bot convert such images to links, rather than changing what people are talking about. --Carnildo (talk) 22:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Will do. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 22:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Canonical.png
Why did the bot make ? Jecowa (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it displayed a non-free image outside of the main namespace. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:BMW R1200RT
Why do you keep removing the image from Talk:BMW R1200RT --Cheesy Mike (talk) 08:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reading the warning box above :D (Item 12) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 20:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

User Pictures
Why do you keep removing my pictures off my images page? Jonesy702 (talk) 18:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reading the warning box above :D (Item 12) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 21:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how you've answered my question? Jonesy702 (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

User Images / "Ambigous" Copyright
I just want to know WHAT I have to do, HOW and WHO I have to credit in order to keep my images on the page.

The copyright issue is also pretty ambiguous. I've seen one of the saw screenshots being marked as gnu, anotherone marked as copyrighted. BUT they are ALL available for free distribution (and their distribution is encouraged, as I know they are posters and promotional materials from the movies, and generally available from allover the net for download) So I SHOULD be allowed to use those images to present stuff I like.

And I HAVE read the box above.

EDIT: Please use SIMPLE ENGLISH when you explain to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireraider (talk • contribs) 00:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I do NOT know WHAT you ARE talking ABOUT. please TELL me WHAT the IMAGE is AND what YOU want ME to DO with IT. thanks. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

With all respct, your "BOT" has removed seven images from my userpage. I just want to know what I have to do to keep them there. Put a list of individual copyright credits for EACH on my page? Then will I be allowed. Or should I modify the use rationale to incude my page in it. It doesn't matter what image it was. By the way, ALL the edits of your creation are listed on my history page.
 * Do not sign your edits with my sig. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see item 1, item 3, item 6, item 7, item 8, item 10, and especially item 12. (Item 12 is very important.) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. Didn't notice that. I Read those. Well, can I modify the use rationale to include my page in it? Then it would be "under the terms of service".
 * No. We do not permit fair use, copyrighted images be used outside of the article namespace. Please see WP:NFCC. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 01:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

FINE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireraider (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Template:Vector version available
Can you please change the bot to replace Template:Vector version available with Template:Non-free vector version available instead of breaking the link? See. Thanks! Jfire (talk) 21:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Removal of fair use sound files
Hello. I might not be up to date with the current policies, but, as far as I know, there's nothing wrong with merely linking to media files. So edits like, and  seem to be improper (Also note the messing up of the wiki markup in the last edit). Additionally, your bot seems to comment out media files, whether they are linked or not. --Conti|✉ 21:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Are those sound files linked or transcluded? If I click on one of them, I hear non-free content. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, either way, you have to click to listen to them. But if transclusion of media files isn't allowed, couldn't your bot simply change the transclusion to a link, instead of replacing a media file with an image? So that [[Image:Mediafile.ogg]] becomes Image:Mediafile.ogg, for example. --Conti|✉ 00:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Removal of TheCowboys1972.jpg
Hello, I searched Wiki to find a fair use image to put on my user page that fitted my theme and found. I even checked to see if it was used in other articles and it is, see this. However, ImageBacklogBot keeps removing it. Can you please help me? If it's not a fair-use image, how do I search Wiki for images I can use on my user page? Thanks, Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 23:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Is there a site where I can search for images to put on my user page that is a free fair-use image? (if that's what it's called).  Thanks, Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 00:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You can search on Wikimedia Commons. All the images you find there can be used on your user page. Here you might find a few suitable images. --Conti|✉ 00:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Cleanemupnowboys (talk) 00:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm
Why not just ask first on the talk page to remove them in a certain amount of time before you just make the move. So the user can do it themself before you just edit without talking to them first. That whould be better before you just barge in and edit. SG2090 (talk) 00:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Because I have 4000 edits to make, and 4000 is easier than 8000. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 00:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Thuringowacityrep/sandbox
Hi can you please stop removing the City of Thuringowa image from My sandbox, i am using my sandbox to look back on and can not see why this image has to be removed from it when this is not a main page, if i have missed something can you please fill me in, thanks Thuringowacityrep (talk) 06:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 16:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

User: Not home
You removed the following image from my user page - "Fanta-guadeloupe.jpg" I took the photo myself so I am confused as to how it can be classified as a "NonFreeImage." Why can I not display my own photo on my User Page. Your discussion page and the page Non-free content criteria provide no clear explanation on this matter. Could you take the time to explain it to me? Thanks.Not home (talk) 08:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a fair-use image, and like all other non-free content, cannot be used outside of the article namespace. See also number 12 above. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 16:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Image removal complaint
Hi, you removed an image from my user page that I drew and I uploaded. I added a logo licence to said image in case it was needed. It would be better for you to review the licence and remove it if it is not necessary (I don’t believe it is), not to remove something which I drew, from my user page.

Image at

Regards, Grahamwild (talk) 19:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The bot acted correctly. You tagged the image as non-free, even though it is yours. You have to explicitly release the image under a free license before it may be added to your userpage. Sorry. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I have changed the license of the image and left my justification for not using the logo license. Regards, Grahamwild (talk) 07:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Vector version template conflict
i'm unsure whether this is a bug or complaint:

Template:Vector version available, is entirely intended for purposes of editing, as it's name implies, as a backwards reference to a better version available, so that the uploader (who is automatically notified by Betacommand that his fair use image is orphaned) and others can review and compare the versions easily, instead of going to the article, look for the new version, click on it to view the image itself.

the bot's removing of these links besides being counter productive, is completely redundant, because a) it's a 100px wide image; and more important, b) it completely overlaps Betacommand's tasks, as this template is intended for orphaned images.

here's an example: Image:Eurotel-160.jpg. thanks --Ben Stone 06:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It should be replacing it with Template:Non-free vector version available -- see my request above. Jfire (talk) 06:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Chubbennaitor
Please tell me when you have deleted images from my Userpage and tell me why.Chubbennaitor (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Thanks
 * We do not permit fair use, copyrighted images be used outside of the article namespace. Please see WP:NFCC. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 21:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing images and links to images from tags on image description pages
ImageBacklogBot seems to be removing references to non-free images from tags such as and  on image description pages (for example, ). This is very counterproductive. Technically the use of a non-free image in the template is a violation of WP:NFCC, but the tag is absolutely worthless without the image parameter; and anyway if the non-free image really is obsolete and has been replaced by another image, then it is an orphaned non-free image and will be deleted in a few days. The use of links to non-free images in is not even a violation of WP:NFCC, because the image itself isn't used, only a link to the image. —Bkell (talk) 20:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The bot also seems to mess up the brackets when it replaces an image: . I would strongly suggest that, rather than replacing non-free images with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg in the Image namespace, the bot should simply add a colon in front of "Image" to turn the image into a link. This would satisfy WP:NFCC, and it would avoid the destruction of cross-references to other images within the Image namespace. The Image namespace is almost hopelessly chaotic as it is; we need to preserve as much organization and listing of related images as we can. —Bkell (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We can do that. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 21:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I just realized that does not actually include the image, only a link to the image, so having a non-free image as a parameter to  is not a violation of WP:NFCC. Also, I support Jfire's suggestion above of replacing  with  rather than breaking cross-references.


 * I see Betacommand just made that change: . —Bkell (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a little frustrating. Nearly all of ImageBacklogBot's recent contributions to the Image namespace need to be reverted. —Bkell (talk) 21:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I've blocked this bot until it can be fixed so it doesn't keep destroying these cross-references. —Bkell (talk) 21:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What? I'm right here fixing it. There's no need to block it. Please unblock immediately. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹnoɟʇs (st47) 21:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to reduce collateral damage while you're fixing it; it seemed like the bot was still running when I blocked it. I'll unblock it; just make sure it's fixed before it starts making more edits. —Bkell (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The same goes for —it should be replaced by (see ). —Bkell (talk) 21:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Other such redirects to are, , , , and . —Bkell (talk) 21:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hidden Comments
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Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve
Hi could you please add Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve to an exempt list. If a fair use image is being displayed here it is because the community is trying to correct a problem with it, unlinking it causes all sorts of problems. Thanks. /Lokal_Profil 23:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Linking to them is not an ideal solution since it makes it hard to easily compared different version etc. /Lokal_Profil 23:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What if you just opened the versions in separate tabs? I see no need to exempt this page from policy at this time. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs (st47) 00:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm checking with the other graphisists for their opinions. /Lokal_Profil 17:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

User:CambridgeBayWeather/Sandbox
Thanks for catching that. When I left the example in there I forgot to check for fairuse images. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)