User talk:Impaled666

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November 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Singularity42 (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Singularity42 (talk) 19:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue removing Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Singularity42 (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS VALDALIZING OUR PAGES!!!!!Impaled666 (talk) 19:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Signing comments
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Singularity42 (talk) 20:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Collapse (band). 4twenty42o (talk) 20:14, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Deletion discussion
Listen, I know you contest the deletion of your articles. That's why we have a special page to discuss it. The deletion discussion takes place at Articles for deletion/Collapse (band) and after seven days an administrator will review that discussion and make a decision. So just make your comments at Articles for deletion/Collapse (band). Deleting the tags, writing comments elsewhere, etc., isn't going to help. Singularity42 (talk) 20:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Please elaborate what is missing and what is in question.There is nothing in question regarding the new enteries.Impaled666 (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Ambox warning yellow.svg|left|48px|]]The "old prod" template goes on article talk pages, not on the article itself. Please stop adding it to articles. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

STOP EDITING OUR PAGE WE ARE WORKING ON IT.Impaled666 (talk) 18:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Deletion process
I think you are a bit confused about the deletion process, so I'm going to try to break it down for you here:

Speedy Deletion (CSD) - this is when an article gets deleted very quickly, usually because of vandalism, etc. It does not apply to the three articles in question, and no one is considering them for that.

Proposed Deletion (PROD) - this is when an editor believes the article in question does not meet Wikipedia inclusion policy, it does not fall under speedy deletion, and does not believe it will be controverisal. If no one objects, the article is deleted in seven days. If someone objects, they can remove the tag. In this case, you objected and removed the tag - which is your right to do. If a Proposed Deletion is contested, is cannot be re-proposed. It must go through one of the other two deletion procedures (CSD or AfD).

Articles for Deletion (AfD) - this is when an editor believes an article in question does not meet Wikipedia inclusion policy, and a discussion is required by the community to determine the consensus. In this case, no one can remove the tag until the discussion is completed - usually after seven days. Instead, people on both sides of the issue make their feelings known at the deletion discussion. We don't need to add additional tags to let people know it is contested. The fact that it is at AfD usually means it is contested.

Finally, if an article is deleted, there is an appeal process, found at WP:DRV. Singularity42 (talk) 18:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

YOU ARE NOT CORRECT AND ARE NOT FOLLOWING WIKI GUIDELINESImpaled666 (talk) 18:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He is correct! Joe Chill (talk) 18:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:Proposed Deletion is different than WP:Articles for Deletion. We are currently dealing with the second one. You sucessfully stopped the first one by contesting the deletion. Singularity42 (talk) 19:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

These are not your rules they are Wili rules. Impaled666 (talk) 19:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

GUIDLINES:

To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the prod tag from the article. You are encouraged to also:

1.Explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. 2.Consider notifying the editors involved in the PROD by placing a Deprod tag on their user talk page. 3.Add or modify an Oldprodfull tag on the article's talk page, to prevent renomination under Proposed deletion. It will then be listed at Category:Past Proposed Deletion Candidates for easy tracking. 4.Consider improving the article to address the concerns raised. If anyone, including the article creator, removes a prod tag from an article, do not replace it, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. This excludes removals that are clearly not an objection to deletion, such as page blanking. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, or that the article should be deleted but with discussion, list it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.[3]

If the article has already been deleted, please follow the Deletion review process. If undeleted, add the Oldprod tag to the Discussion page. Any deletion via this process which is taken to deletion review is implicitly a contested deletion, and the article should therefore be immediately restored by any administrator without discussion.

WE ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND HAVE REMOVED THE PROD.YOU ALL KEEP RE-ADDING IT.WE HAVE ALREADY PREVENTED THE DELETION. STOP ADDED THE DELETION NOTICE TAG.Impaled666 (talk) 19:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
You have been temporarily blocked from editing. '''You need to quit freaking out and yelling at everyone. Try to actually read and understand the messages others are sending you, and stop reposting the disputed prod template all over the place.'''. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text  below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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You have temporarialy blocked me from editing because you are attempting to stop me from making my argument and you are not following your own rules.

Removing the prod tag prevents deletion and you are harrassing and flaming us now.

Impaled666 (talk) 19:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, Singularity 42 has been remarkably patient in trying to explain the situation to you, and you have responded with hysteria and nonsense. Please calm down and actually read the helpful messages he posted here explaining the situation. Articles for deletion discussions last a minimum of seven days, so you will still have plenty of time to formulate a rational argument with a basis in Wikipedia policy after the block expires. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Removing the PROD tage prevents page deletion.Pease review the wiki rules, you are not listening to th guidlines.Impaled666 (talk) 19:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This is silly. As has been repeatedly explained to you now, removing the WP:PROD tag prevents it from being deleted through the PROD process, it has no impact on the WP:AFD process whatsoever. Understand? Beeblebrox (talk) 19:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you even read the rules and follow them.STOP DELETING MY POSTS!Impaled666 (talk) 19:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC) Stop editing my talk page!Impaled666 (talk) 19:30, 14 November 2009 (UTC)You altered the rules in my post!

Deletion policies
I want to try one more time to explain the policies, because I really think you are just not clear on the difference between WP:Proposed Deletion and WP:Articles for Deletion.

From WP:Proposed Deletion:


 * If anyone, including the article creator, removes a prod tag from an article, do not replace it, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. This excludes removals that are clearly not an objection to deletion, such as page blanking. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, or that the article should be deleted but with discussion, list it on Articles for deletion.

In this case, you removed the prod tag - which is totally fine. It just means we move onto the last sentence of that paragraph. Did other editors still feel the article should be deleted? If the answer to that is yes, then we move to a new process called WP:Articles for deletion. In this case, the answer was yes, so we moved to that new process.

WP:Articles for deletion is explained more on that page as well as WP:Guide to deletion. While you are away for three hours, please take a look at those two pages. I'm sure they will help you understand what is happening better. But a big rule is that the afd tag CANNOT be removed while a discussion is taking place (which is different from the prod tag.

After your block is over, I will be more than happy to continue to answer your questions, provided you ask them calmly and without wild accusations. Thanks! Singularity42 (talk) 19:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

You do not run wiki and these are not your decisions.Impaled666 (talk) 19:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

You edited this entry above in my talk page and I caught you.




 * Okay, a couple of things:


 * 1) You don't need to re-print the the template that was already added to your talk page. Just point me to it instead. In any event, it clearly says that there are other deletion processes if you decide to remove the prod tag.


 * 2) You are right. I don't run Wikipedia. And I won't make the final decision. An impartial administrator will. Isn't that the best solution?


 * 3) The quotes I wrote above from the policies are just that - policies. I have to follow them as much as you do. Singularity42 (talk) 19:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

STOP EDITING MY TALK PAGEImpaled666 (talk) 19:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Objecting

Shortcut: WP:CONTESTED

To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the PROD prod tag from the article. You are encouraged to also:

1.Explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. 2.Consider notifying the editors involved in the PROD by placing a Deprod tag on their user talk page. 3.Add or modify an Oldprodfull tag on the article's talk page, to prevent renomination under Proposed deletion. It will then be listed at Category:Past Proposed Deletion Candidates for easy tracking. 4.Consider improving the article to address the concerns raised. If anyone, including the article creator, removes a prod tag from an article, do not replace it, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. This excludes removals that are clearly not an objection to deletion, such as page blanking. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, or that the article should be deleted but with discussion, list it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.[3]

If the article has already been deleted, please follow the Deletion review process. If undeleted, add the Oldprod tag to the Discussion page. Any deletion via this process which is taken to deletion review is implicitly a contested deletion, and the article should therefore be immediately restored by any administrator without discussion. Impaled666 (talk) 19:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Objecting

Shortcut: WP:CONTESTED

To object to and therefore permanently prevent a proposed deletion, remove the prod tag from the article. You are encouraged to also:

1.Explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. 2.Consider notifying the editors involved in the PROD by placing a Deprod tag on their user talk page. 3.Add or modify an Oldprodfull tag on the article's talk page, to prevent renomination under Proposed deletion. It will then be listed at Category:Past Proposed Deletion Candidates for easy tracking. 4.Consider improving the article to address the concerns raised. If anyone, including the article creator, removes a prod tag from an article, do not replace it, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. This excludes removals that are clearly not an objection to deletion, such as page blanking. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, or that the article should be deleted but with discussion, list it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.[3]

If the article has already been deleted, please follow the Deletion review process. If undeleted, add the Oldprod tag to the Discussion page. Any deletion via this process which is taken to deletion review is implicitly a contested deletion, and the article should therefore be immediately restored by any administrator without discussion.
 * Read your own posts, chummer. They specifically say that PRODs that are removed can still be deleted as a result of a subsequent AfD debate. The PROD was removed; there is now an AfD debate. Removing a PROD (or a DB) does not guarantee an article's survival indefinitely. Also, please calm down the rhetoric. The last thing *any* of us want to do is extend your block because you're being belligerent. - Jeremy  ( v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!! ) 20:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion

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