User talk:Imroy/Archive 8

Vandalism warning
hi you posted something to me, but I'm pretty sure you got hte wrong person.74.14.103.51 (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Your major rewrite of Mobile Network Code
On 07:39, 18 November 2009 you rewrote the entire Mobile Network Code, thus breaking the rules that apply for the article. I have reverted the entire change. -- Egil (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

DPI vs. CPI
I plan on reverting the DPI to CPI change you made to the Razer mice section. None of the Razer products refer to themselves as CPI, and no one in what I have come to know as the gaming mice community on Gotfrag or RazerBlurprints.net refer to DPI as CPI.

IMHO PPI (pixels per inch, not pulses) is the most accurate term. But since no one has honest to god coined the term yet, and all the Logitech Wikipedia pages still call it DPI, as does Logitech (and Microsoft) I feel it causes more confusion than doing any sort of good, or help.

Also, this lone source from the Mouse Speed section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_%28computing%29#cite_note-hawley-11 does not say anything about CPI. Pixels per inch would be the most accurate term, because that's what the "dots" per inch are, and the "counting the dots" per inch is, and the "pulses" per inch means that every pulse = 1 pixel movement.

Unfortunately we can't come up with our own terms and get people to use them, so IMHO we need to use what the company (Razer in this case) is currently using.

Would you be OK with me changing this based on these grounds? (especially since it's been DPI for years in the article, from what I can see.)

I would seriously love to help get the Razer article bumped up to a higher status.-- Pimp Uigi  16:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Firstly, I must apologise for not responding earlier. I first had the whole family christmas thing to deal with and then a week holiday. When you posted this, I was asleep in a hotel in Canberra. Is there a template one can place on their talk page noting their absence?...


 * Now, onto the matter at hand. Pixels are a picture element. That is not what the mouse is sending to the host. It sends "counts", measuring how far the mouse has moved since the last update. The system software manipulates these vectors of movement (using settings such as "sensitivity" and "acceleration") before using them to move a pointer on the screen. So pixels per inch (PPI) would not be the proper unit.


 * I personally feel that "dots per inch" (DPI) is an overused unit. People are lazy and often use it in situations where the characteristic being measured cannot be described as a "dot", or only distantly so. I don't doubt for a second that the Razer site uses "DPI" - it's targeted to consumers and they don't want to confuse them with yet another acronym. But Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. We should try to be correct and informative instead of being lazy. I would prefer to have the units changed back to CPI. --Imroy (talk) 11:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you had a nice holiday. : )


 * I thought you weren't going to respond, and changed the article back (as you probably already noticed) and no one else responded about this change either. I can make every instance of DPI link to the CPI/DPI info part, but there's no actual citation there saying that "CPI" is the true term. Again, I think it's SteelSeries propaganda (great company, love them) and not to be worried about. Those counts = pixels on the screen after all. Just so no one is confused, I think we should keep the proper terms, with the proper products, since that's what's sourceable, and verifiable. (surprisingly to me, Wikipedia values verifiability over truth, as noted in their three core beliefs; Verifiability, No Original Research, and Neutrality.)


 * PS, the user Anomie has a notice on his page that he's away on a "wiki break," you could probably get some ideas from that.-- Pimp Uigi  11:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)