User talk:Inadequates

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and are immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Ben W Bell  talk  13:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Email
In response to this email that you sent me.

User:UtherSRG had an informative article I spent time revising and writing deleted for no reason other than he seems to take delight in ruining this place for anyone wanting information on subjects that he has decided to play god over and thinks people shouldn't read about,

that i think is vandalism

i am really annoyed that this person got rid of work i spent some of the little free time i get writing and researching and i even had it proof read for spelling mistakes and grammar which cost me money out of my own pocket

so please don't send me any more rubbish about me being a vandal

and if you want to ban me then go a-head as i am sure that i dont want to be a part of a place where cretins like UtherSRG can get away with deleting honest well revised articles just cos they feel like

User:UtherSRG probably deleted the article for the same reason I just deleted the article. The article made no attempt to show any notability of the band, a requirement for inclusion on Wikipedia. The band appears to be completely non-notable. Also your username suggests that you are a member of the aforementioned band which means you're starting an article on yourself or your group which is considered vanity and is generally frowned upon on Wikipedia with most vanity articles being deleted instantly. If you can provide some evidence that this band is actually notable and worth including in Wikipedia you must include it in the article or it is liable to be deleted. See WP:Band for more details. Ben W Bell  talk  13:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh and sending emails to Wikipedia members such as this "why delete my page you fuckin dickless piece of shit" doesn't do much to help your case. Ben W Bell   talk  13:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * In addition looking at the logs, the article was prodded on the 23rd September last year. As of the 28th September last year no one had made any attempt to justify why the page was there or made any claims on the page that it was notable so it was deleted under Wikipedia guidelines after 5 days. No one has done anything wrong. Ben W Bell   talk  13:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

In addition please communicate on Wikipedia talk pages such as here, and not by email. There is no need to communicate with my by email at this point. So in response to this email of yours the band is just as "notable" as several other bands on here

the page is informative and inoffensive and i have read the rules of wikipedia and it follows them

i think you deleted the page unfairly and i wish to take this further if you fail to resolve this The article still doesn't make any claims to notability for the band to be anything other than a garage band made by a few friends of which you still appear to be one of. Claiming other articles exist isn't a reason for it to be included on Wikipedia and as the article stands I see no reason it should be included. To prove notability you need to meet the criteria on WP:Band, none of which has been substantiated. Ben W Bell  talk  14:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Please discuss the article here instead of sending me and other editors private emails. Your recent email to me states: the article you deleted follows all the rules of wikipedia you have banned me for no reason and i believe your actions to be unjustified if you refuse to sort out the situation i will take it further

On the contrary, your articles fails WP:BAND and WP:V. I have banned you for twice not following process in having a deleted article recreated. My actions are well justified as your not following process is a form of vandalism. Please do take things further, by following process (tomorrow after your block expires) and asking for deletion review on WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I've also altered your block so you cannot send emails to people following this email. i believe the band to be notable enought for people to want to read about they have toured across europe and have a release on a small record label which i think makes them notable

more notable than some of the other bands on here

i want this matter resolved

i have decided i am going to contact wikipedia as i believe i have been subject to unfair actions from its admins

please sort this out Discuss these matters here, not in abusive emails to other users. It has been made clear to you what criteria the article must fulfil on the WP:Band page, and you haven't shown any evidence of notability in the bands or provided any evidence as to why it should be on Wikipedia. Until such happens the article will remain deleted. Ben W Bell  talk  14:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

i will sign up as another user tomorrow and re-add the article with all the proof and from the wikimedia rules which i can prove the band have toured extensively

and have released material on labels

plus i want to make a complaint about my mistreatment by moderators i believe to be building a vendetta rather than acting for the good of the site —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inadequates (talk • contribs).


 * Please sign your edits by typing ~ at the end of your posts on talk pages. That is of course your right if you wish to register a complaint. The place to register a specific complaint against Admin users for this sort of thing is on Requests_for_comment/User_conduct. Ben W Bell   talk  14:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * There is no need to create a new account tomorrow. In fact if you do, that sock puppet account will be indefinitely blocked. Your edit block on this account will expire tomorrow and you can make the request at WP:DRV then. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

so you are now threating me from making future accounts to persue your vendetta against me ?

i have done nothing wrong

except try and add information that fits all the rules and can prove it

if you had asked me to alter my article or supply proof then i would have cooperated fully

instead of deleting detailed well revised work and cyber bullying

i always thought that this site was a great source of information and have enjoyed it for many years and if my page and been allowed would have considered donating to it

but these two moderators have put me off using the site in future and i will do all within my means to get this sorted out properly so they dont get away with bullying anyone else out of making legitimate articles —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inadequates (talk • contribs).


 * No, I'm not bullying you. I'mm telling you that creating multiple accounts is not allowed. Yes, this source is a great site for information, but it is not a place for your favorite MySpace band. This is a serious encyclopedia. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Proof was asked on the page in question on the 23rd September 2006. By 28th September 2006 non had been provided so it was deleted under Wikipedia policies. Page was recreated without providing any further such information, as a result it was deleted again under policy. No one has done anything wrong here. Anyway for now just calm down, go away and find evidence to support the notability claim. Come tomorrow afternoon when your block expires you can log in again under the same account you are now using and recreate the page and supply your references to support the bands notability. No problems, you just have to wait a day. Ben W Bell   talk  14:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I would also like to point out that as someone who claims to have done no wrong, you did send other users abusive emails which is often a grounds for a block on its own. So please just calm down and return tomorrow with your references on how the group is notable. Ben W Bell   talk  15:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

perhaps i would be less "abusive" if you had been more helpful and not just delete articles that someone as spent time on because you believe them to be against the rules, i feel as if i am going around in circles here.

i was not asked for anything before the account was deleted today (8th of august 2007) as i have said several times if i had been i would have supplied the required information no problems

i believe my block to be unfair and am unhappy that you blocked me for not supplying the right information which i would have been happy to supply

instead of going out looking for malicious pages or inaccurate pages (which i am sure there are plenty)you have decided to prey upon someone who is trying to add information which if you agree with it or not maybe be of some advantage to users of the site

all things you claim i have done wrong where in reaction to things that i believe to be unfair

i didnt blank your page i simply altered it

today (august 8th 2007)

my page was deleted before any explanation was given or any chance to rectify it

i believe that you have deliberately looked for anything you can pick up on as an excuse to delete it as to persue a vendetta.

and i dont believe that i should be banned for a day just for making a page on a subject that is within the terms of wikipedia if i was asked clearly what was expected of me in a civilized manner i would have immediately altered the page and supplied the relevant information.

everything i have done as been in reaction to actions against my account that i feel to be unjust and i dont think people like you deserve to have the right just to wipe out information without first giving me chance to rectify and problems and maybe you did almost a year ago but the problem stems from today and i had no such warming my pages was deleted before i was told why and i thought it had vanished due to a problem with the site which is why i re-added it Inadequates 15:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Recreating the article again
I've deleted the article again. It was originally deleted because: No claim of notability. Fails WP:BAND, WP:V. Please do not recreate this article again. If you wish to have the article restored, you can indicate this at WP:DRV. I've blocked you for one day for disregarding process. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked You have been blocked for vandalism for 1 day. To contest this block, add the text  on this page, replacing your reason here with an explanation of why you believe this block to be unjustified. You can also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list. Please be sure to include your username (if you have one) and IP address in your email.

If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia after the block has expired, you will be blocked for longer and longer periods of time. UtherSRG (talk) 14:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

please tell me how the article fails to meet the rules and i will ajust it accordingly i am a big fan of the band and i can prove that they are signed to a record label and have toured the UK and Europe,

and are just as notable as other bands on here and i believe this to be some kind of vendetta against me and i want it to be reported as such i feel that i am being victimized unfairly i would like this resolved

please tell me what information i need to add to my article to stop you from unjustly deleting it ?

also i intend on creating the article again as i believe it breaks no rules and believe i am being treated unfairly —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inadequates (talk • contribs).


 * Provide evidence of their notability as per WP:Band. Ben W Bell   talk  14:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Do not recreate the article. If you do, I will block you again, for longer periods of time. Go to WP:DRV to ask for the article to be undeleted, providing them your evidence for notability, as stated at WP:BAND. Take to day to read WP:BAND thoroughly and have all of your citations lined up.


 * Also please sign your talk edits with - UtherSRG (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

why should i wait a day when i have done nothing wrong?.

if i was cleary asked for my article to be altered on the 8th august the matter in hand would have been resolved instantly but i cannot do it now due to this ban which i feel is unjust and i think i have been wrongly treated —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Inadequates (talk • contribs).


 * Again I ask that you sign your comments by adding ~ to the end of your comment. As for having done nothing wrong you have which is included in your block. You vandalised another users user page and you sent abusive emails to other Wikipedia users. Just sit out your block and you can come back tomorrow in less than 24 hours. Ben W Bell   talk  15:14, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Your article was clearly tagged back in September of 2006. It sat for 5 days with no one replying to the request for notability. It was then, properly and within process, deleted in September of 2006. It has been nearly a year since then. You come back and find your article is deleted, so you recreated it, without finding out why it was deleted in the first place. You also blanked my user page - a clear violation no matter what else is going on. The article is then deleted as a point of process. You send abusive emails, again a violation and grounds for blocking. You create the article a third time, and it gets deleted, properly, and you get blocked for a day to cool off. You have done multiple things wrong. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)