User talk:Indiecat

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Edits to Last Exit
The page Last Exit is not an article; it is a disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages have their own style guidelines that your edits do not adhere to. Although everyone is welcome to make contributions to Wikipedia, please do not make unconstructive edits. -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  16:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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Trying to help here
1) Yes, as executive producer, you definitely have a major conflict of interest. 2) The guidelines on external links are here; specifically, the part that says, "Links normally to be avoided... Links to blogs and personal web pages"! 3) If you cannot provide references (they don't have to have weblinks, though it helps) to articles about this film in publications or on websites that are considered reliable sources, then the general feeling is likely to be that the film lacks notability and should not have an article in Wikipedia. Are there no reviews of the film in magazines and newspapers? Is it not mentioned in books about its subgenres, or about Danish film? 4) I'm trying to help because SkewedShelf asked that other editors step in, to make sure you were getting fair treatment. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  18:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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Last Exit (film)
The problem with the older version of Last Exit (film) is that it was written like publicity material or an advertisement, not like an encyclopedia article. Phrases such as "remarkably deft", "passionate, convincing performances", and "in your face style of psychedelic sex and stark violence" are all purely subjective and, unless they were written by an outside authority and are properly referenced, have no place in an objective article. Also, Wikipedia has guidelines about the format of articles, as detailed in the Manual of Style, and rules about what sorts of external links are allowed. The changes I made to the article were all intended to bring it closer to meeting Wikipedia standards--to make it more likely, that is, to be retained in WP and referred to with confidence by WP users.

I also want to add that no one is lying to anyone. I requested advice from two other editors, and Orangemike possibly saw one of those messages. Or it could be that he was monitoring recent changes (a common administrator activity) and noticed our exchange of contrary edits. Nothing is going on that you can't see for yourself in the page and contribution histories of everyone involved. -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  20:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Well it all seems funny and weird. But wholeheartedly agree with KnowledgeOfSelf, that since there is a conflict for some reason here, so we need to work on it without just reverting back and forth all the time. Since then, have worked very very hard in digging out many more references, links, interviews etc to try backup the article and its content, will try add as much more as possible when I find them, it might take time as this is an obscure and cult item. But maybe we have to go through a "mediator" as KnowledgeOfSelf states if we still have issues after a while. Good vibes hopefully for the future.

Indiecat (talk) 21:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)indiecat


 * The problem here in part is that a lot of the references you'd like to add (and not just on this film, but on quirky indie films in general) are to websites that are kinda marginal under Wikipedia's standards of what constitutes a "reliable source". This is not an area of my expertise, but some of these look like personal websites with pretentious names. (It's the whole "On the Internet nobody knows you're a dog" thing). There's a strong bias in favor of hardcopy publications and sites with strong verifiability. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  14:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, agree, and I guess that's why these movies are called cult items becuase they are somewhat outside of the system. They are usually not covered or even sometimes revered by the mainstream press. And just because they are obscure and only covered by cult review sites, at the end of the day it's all a matter whether it's for peoples tastes or not, these websites are niche and are well known in their particular market that they purely focus on. Once again, that is the whole defination of "cult film", we are not talking mainstream hollywood here, just tiny niche films with a small following. Hmmmm...I supposed it's all damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. Indiecat 18:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Tone
A sentence like "Dark humor [2]and a driving pop-rock score[3] complete a scenario not for the faint of heart[4]." is simply not encyclopedic and needs to go. See if you can find a more neutral way of saying the same thing; that last clause in particular is a major problem. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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