User talk:Indielitgirl

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PROD tag
I think I understand why the earlier incarnation of the page failed basic notability guidelines. I have now severely re-edited and added citations/sources for everything that I could find. I also added a section which I think addresses your concerns as to how the ISBNs for Dostoyevsky Wannabe books appear to be published by Createspace and how this is due to the alternative way in which Dostoyevsky Wannabe sets itself up to be able to do what it does. A lot of the problem stemmed from blurred boundaries between 'vanity publishing and traditional publishing' that is detailed on Wikipedia's own 'Self-Publishing' wikipedia entry and which Dostoyevsky Wannabe seems to try and exploit. I have also added a source that suggests that this is intentional on the part of Dostoyevsky Wannabe.

Would you now agree that this article is notable? As Dostoyevsky Wannabe has a number of mentions on wikipedia already but no page, if this page looks ok, I will go on and do more indie lit editing and add links to this new page to those. I don't want to do that though until I'm satisfied that this page passes the guidelines.

So please let me know whether you are happy to remove the PROD tag. Thank you for your help up to this point. Indielitgirl (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

The article Dostoyevsky Wannabe has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * no indication of meeting notability guidelines. The one reference is to a book published on createspace rather than this company.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. noq (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

How do I deal with this important citation?
The confusion over the citation being a book that belongs to Createspace and not Dostoyevsky Wannabe is explained on the Dostoyevsky Wannabe website about page under the question heading - 'What's the deal with Createspace ISBN's etc', here - http://www.dostoyevskywannabe.com/about This explains why this book and all Dostoyevsky Wannabe books, despite the fact that the ISBNs are block-bought by the Createspace platform, are still nevertheless published by Dostoyevsky Wannabe as Createspace is a self-publishing platform.

How do I resolve this? Dostoyesky Wannabe is merely an inventive way to utilise self-publishing to become a low-cost independent press. Also please note the following discussion on the Createspace forum - https://forums.createspace.com/en/community/message/306489.

This is more of a confusion on Createspace's (owned by Amazon) legal terminology and not really the fault of Dostoyevsky Wannabe which is gaining notable coverage despite its unconventional model of using POD publishing. Createspace block buys the ISBNs that they allow people to use so they legally end up being named as the publisher, elsewhere there is Createspace small print that say " "You may not include "Published by CreateSpace," "CreateSpace Publishing," or other references to CreateSpace"

Indielitgirl (talk) 18:52, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello Indielitgirl.
 * Instead of your own talk page, please put this message to the article talk page: Talk:Dostoyevsky Wannabe. Ping Noq in that message using Noq.
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 * Please keep editing and add other essential references. --Svetlana Tkachenko (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2016 (UTC)