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Mustapha Zitouni
Technically there was no country called 'Algeria' at that time - it was called French Algeria. We should therefore use that for the sake of historical accuracy. GiantSnowman 10:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well as far as Wikipedia was concerned, that particular region was, between 1830 and 1962 called "French Algeria". Before that it was "Ottoman Algeria" (1517–1830) and after that it was "Algeria" (1962 to present). At the time of Zitouni's birth, the location he was born in as known as "French Algeria" and so the article should reflect that. GiantSnowman 12:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * If the Wikipedia article is about "French Algeria" then that is the term we use, it is as simple as that - not your original research. If you feel the name is icorrect, you should suggest a name change. GiantSnowman 13:10, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh, like I've said, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, he was born in "French Algeria" and that is what his article should reflect. I cannot see why that is so hard to understand? GiantSnowman 18:33, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * MOS - "Many place names have a historical context that should be preserved." GiantSnowman 19:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * NO! Look at the article on French Algeria, what period does it cover in the infobox? GiantSnowman 21:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My word, this is very, very basic stuff. Zitouni was born in French Algeria, a colony which existed under that name from 1830 to 1962. That's why we have an article on it, and named as it is named. What is so hard to understand about that? If you disagree with the name of the article, suggest a change at the article talk page - but do not introduce bogus piping. GiantSnowman 22:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Your example simply proves my point. Would you say that Caesar was born in Italy? GiantSnowman 09:48, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For the final time, I will try and explain this as simply as I can. The article we have is called "French Algeria", that is where he was born and that is what his article should reflect. Why can't you understand that? GiantSnowman 10:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No, she wasn't. The article on Vichy France confirms that that was "France during the regime of Marshal Philippe Pétain, during World War II, from the German victory in the Battle of France (July 1940) to the Allied liberation in August 1944." Anyone born there between those dates was born in Vichy France. If you cannot see simple facts like that, you might want to stop editing here and go back to fr.wiki where your views are no doubt acceptable. GiantSnowman 12:46, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Please do not continue to revert against consensus. It is very clear from the discussion on the football WikiProject page that there is no consensus to use "Algeria", so until you gain a consensus, then the original version remains. If you fail to respect this, then an edit warring report will eventually be filed. Thanks, Number   5  7  11:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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