User talk:Indulge55

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Proposed deletion of Fire Fighter Vodka


The article Fire Fighter Vodka has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * I find no evidence of notability. Posted by user with WP:COI user name.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination of Fire Fighter Vodka for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Fire Fighter Vodka is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Fire Fighter Vodka until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Fire Fighter Vodka
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Hi Largoplazo,

I would like to inquire about your request to delete the page Fire Fighter Vodka. I would also like to address your concerns and prevent this page from deletion.

'''I find no evidence of notability. Posted by user with WP:COI user name. The prize was for an ad, not for the company, and the reference given to in connection with the prize has no information about the company. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)'''

In response to this concern, the prize or award that Fire Fighter Vodka received was not for an ad. The reference that was given states that Fire Fighter Vodka was awarded a sliver medal under the label and packaging category. The Moscow International Advertising Festival has a broad range of categories which include label and packaging competitions for alcoholic beverages. Furthermore, Fire Fighter is listed in this reference as the brand name. I also refer to Fire Fighter Vodka as a brand in my page and not as a company.

In response to the WP:COI user name, I can say that I am an individual and do not represent a company. I created this page solely to inform anyone who seeks information about this new brand. I can edit the page and remove any COI that you have found within the text.

Please let me know your thoughts and how we can rectify any concerns that you may have.

Thank you
 * OK, my inaccuracy on the nature of the prize. Where I wrote "an ad", replace it with "labeling and packaging". That reference is perfectly good factual support for the statement in the article that the company won that prize. In other words, the article meets the verifiability standard. But having once won a prize for labeling and packaging doesn't rise to the level of establishing notability as it's defined for purposes of assessing inclusion in Wikipedia. You can also look at WP:PRODUCT for alternative thresholds through which a product might meet the notability requirement.
 * If you say that you simply took the company's name but have no connection to the company or the product, I'll take your word for it, but in that case your choice of user name is responsible for the confusion. See Username policy.
 * Getting back to what you can do to alleviate the notability issue, check through the references I gave you above for alternative thresholds you could meet. Where a threshold is stated in terms of substantial coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources, be sure to take note of each word in that description of the sources. —Largo Plazo (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


 * By the way, the article has a promotional tone that would need to go away in any event. "The brand focuses on creating a smooth tasting vodka that can be enjoyed by everyone while giving a portion of sales back to the first responder community" is written to impress, as is "award-winning artist". —Largo Plazo (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)