User talk:Ineck

I have added a paragraph to the introduction and re-written "Background and causes" and "health effects". As major references, I have added my main publications that contain a lot of facts, also contradictory. One of them can be downloaded. I have done some small corrections at other places. Ingrid Eckerman Ineck (talk) 14:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Allopathic
Hi! Yes, Allopathic is a POV term in Europe and the Americas, where it was coined. It is an incorrect term for medicine generally, meaning "other suffering", but was coined by the founder of homeopathy as a derogatory term for the heroic medicine practised at the time. Apart from limited use by DOs in the USA, the term is considered (very) insulting by doctors in most of the Western world at least, and by wikipedia naming policies we should use the name most understood and generally applied by practitioners themselves. In some countries it is used to distinguish between modern evidence based medicine and locally based traditional medicine (although this is not universal, and is often disputed), but the major use is the pejorative utilised by practitioners of alternative medicine (osteopathy, homeopathy, etc) and quacks. Thanks, Verbal   chat  10:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * See also homeopathy and allopathy, which may be merged with allopathy. Verbal   chat  10:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Bhopal Disaster
Thanks for putting the sources that I removed unknowingly. Although I have lots of edits (vandalism reverts) I'm totally inexperienced with writing; I didn't realize it already had a newspaper reference so I did a google search and put in what I found. -- Unpopular Opinion ( talk ) 20:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed the caption of the photo to "Union carbide MIC plant"; please make any further changes if needed. Thanks -- Unpopular Opinion ( talk ) 04:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I edited your personal page a little
Hej Ingrid!

I took the liberty to edit a link on your user page, to what I think you intended. You had left it as an "external link" to the entire Swedish wikipedia, when you tried to link to the article Teosofiska ungdomsgruppen.. Instead, I employed the rather smart shortcuts for making an "internal link". I think this is what you really wanted; if not, you'll just have to revert my edit...

I'll explain precisely what I did and what its effects are. What I wrote was the following:
 * sv:Teosofiska ungdomsgruppen

Now, this is what it does:
 * 1) The double brackets       identify it as an "internal wikimedia project" link.
 * 2) The prefix   sv:   identifies the link target as an item from the Swedish wikipedia.
 * 3) However, if I only wrote   sv:, then the effect would be to define the Swedish article as a sister page to your user page, which is not at all what you want. Therefore, I preceded the prefix by an extra colon, thus:   :sv: , which makes wikipedia interpret it as an "ordinary" wikipedia link.
 * 4) The name   Teosofiska ungdomsgruppen   becomes both the link name (the blue, clickable text on your user page) and the specific part of the link target name.
 * 5) However, if I left it at that, the prefix   sv:   would be visible; the link would appear as this link does:   sv:Teosofiska ungdomsgruppen . This may be avoided by putting a vertical bar  |  after the target name, followed by the text I want to become clickable. However, there is a shortcut: Since very often what we want is the name of the target, but without the prefixes, this is precisely what the wikimedia interpreter inserts, if we write a bar without any text between it and the concluding double right bracket, thus:   |]] . Thus, this is what I did.

So, doin' the wp linkin' may appear to be an art or a science all by itself; but, actually, the ideas are pretty simple. Once you get used to them, you'll feel that they are rather natural, and be irritated in other, non-wiki contexts when you remember that you don't have access to these smooth functions. At least, I do now and then.

Live well!

JoergenB (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

People near the plant
Ingrid, Hej San Thank you for the excellent article on Bhopal. I wonder if you could add a bit about the people who moved closer and closer to the plant. It was my understanding (which might be wrong) that the plant was zoned industrial, but that this was not enforced, so that the area right up to the fence had dwellings. Also, you did mention that the piping and valves had been changed from stainless to carbon steel. If that's correct, it is hugely important and could be cited as the cause alone (I'm a chemist), although the circumstances greatly worsened the disaster. Thanks, ^^^^Mark Bergseid —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saleemsan (talk • contribs) 17:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

HEJSAN, MARK! I cannot write to you because you did not sign in the right way (with four tildes ~). I am sorry, but I did not read this until today, half a year later. It is true that people have moved up around the plant area, most of them after 1984. Before 1984, there was at least a road between the wall and the basti.

Yes, carbon steel was used instead of stainless steel in the pipes. If you have more information about this, please contact me by ingrid/at/eckerman.nu.

Ingrid Eckerman (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Environmental Persistent Pharmaceutical Pollutant
I have done some editing to the Environmental Persistent Pharmaceutical Pollutant article. It is a good article that was overdue for being created.I have added nofootnotes to it. Can you add the references as inline citations? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 19:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

--- Thank you Alan! Yes, as I said in the discussion, I will come back and fix the references. I managed to add the two portals. It looks professional! Ingrid Eckerman (talk) 19:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Ineck! I fear that if I undid myself, there will be two losses. First of all, the state in which the article was, it was looking like a report and not an encyclopedia entry. There are certain guidelines and rules to follow, if you are writing at encyclopedia, known as WP:MOS which the article never did as far as structure was concerned. And that is what I've changed. Second, your work on the article won't get the praise it should get unless it follows MOS. I aim to bring the article to WP:GA status and undoubtedly, I'll mention your name in the nomination page since you are the editor with most number of edits. I know that previous version might be good to read if someone just wanted to know the points from a report and not encyclopedia. I am stressing so much on MOS for the reason to see that it gets GA status. Ineck, what you have done is just amazing on the article but it needed touch up which is done now. Getting an article to GA status is good but bringing the article to it is even better which you've done till today. I'd just request one more thing that please don't add anything to Further reading as it is not in accordance to WP:EL and as stated, this is not a report but encyclopedia. I hope you understand my point and would accept it. You are an valuable asset to the community especially for your work at the article. Cheers!  TheSpecialUser TSU 21:19, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And I've add the portal.  TheSpecialUser TSU 03:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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How's it going
Hi Ingrid - I'm a Canadian, and a Rosalie Bertell fan. I noticed the conversation on the Bhopal Disaster page. It seemed like you were getting some industry flak. Did you find a good editor willing to help with references and pictures? "Balance" is always such an issue. Merely quoting newspaper quotes of unsubstantiated industry claims is not adding balance, or even reliable information. If the industry wanted to come clean, they could, but are still hiding behind their paid spokespeople. They have millions of dollars to splash their version everywhere. The balance we need is the contrasting view from people who are often volunteers...

Anyways - I support you to keep plugging away. I'm willing to help, if you need it. I often edit for clarity and style. I know a few experienced editors who I could ask to help if you feel you need it.

cheers, and best wishes.

Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billyshiverstick (talk • contribs) 04:26, 17 February 2014 (UTC) .

Thanks for your nice words, Ben. What I have been thinking of is going back to the July 2012 version, with very much material of different kind. That gives everyone better possibility to judge themselves. I might also publish the chapters of my book The Bhopal Saga, including all references, on the net. This will happen when I have a boring period. Otherwise, since they added that you must be logged in to make changes to the article, nothing very bad has happened. Also, the changes are so large, so the text is not any longer mine. 217.210.126.99 (talk) 08:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, if you want help, I am also most willing to be help on the article. Thank you for work you have done. I see also industry flak which is sad to see, because people who say you are bias against industry also don't realize that they are bias for industry. I appreciate your work and wish to help you make the article good into the future. ElectraGrrl (talk) 12:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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